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How discriminating are people willing to see their LI options? (Gender/Race/X?)


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#176
Zjarcal

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With your link, do you mean somewhere in the thread or the article in the OP? 

 

Gah, seems like direct post linking doesn't work with archived threads.

 

Anyway, page 5, second post.



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Hanako Ikezawa

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Gah, seems like direct post linking doesn't work with archived threads.

 

Anyway, page 5, second post.

Oh, you were referring to Gaider's post. 



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My recollection was that it was Fenris and Merrill that were ambiguous, not Anders and Merrill.

Anders has Karl and talks about his desire for pretty women in Awakening.

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For me personally I'm attracted to humanoids so for me qunari are out (as are quarians and turians in mass effect). Asari and elves have similar enough features that I could find them appealing enough. What I'm curious about is whether I will engage in romance options if I myself play a qunari (if its completely censored (which I hope not) I will but if it isnt I wonder...)



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As long as you actually can't get locked out of having any options I like the gender, and to a lesser extent race, gating. I'd really like to see gating based on decisions made though. Fenris rejecting those who enslaved the elf servant or blood mages for example would have been much more satisfying than a gender bias. Maybe we'll actually see some of that in Inquisition? 



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I'd also like to see player choices have an impact on romance. In DA:O for example if your character was an evil blood mage, he or she probably shouldn't have been able to romance Leliana even with gifts. It's just out of character for her. 



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My recollection was that it was Fenris and Merrill that were ambiguous, not Anders and Merrill.

Anders has Karl and talks about his desire for pretty women in Awakening.

No, I remember because it was one human and one elf who were the ambiguous characters. And we know Isabela isn't the ambiguous human. 



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Well, this is where I recalled it from.

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For my own personal amusement, I'd say gate all the things. "Oh, you chose that nose with those ears in character creation, but didn't go for the chiseled jaw line? No pixel-nookie for you!"

 

Realistically, getting into character creation preferences is probably a bridge too far. But stuff like a mage suddenly finding herself rather a lot less interested in my warrior the second I pick the templar spec... That'd be character development, and awesome.


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I do not care. I have no problem playing whatever I need to romance whomever I want.



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"I do not care. I have no problem playing whatever I need to romance whomever I want."

 

This would mean mean choice of romance option is, to you, a primary motivation in character choice?

Out of curiosity, do you play the game once, or multiple times?



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I fully support it, well done to BioWare.



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You're still not in the robot, Kallen. Do I need to make you look at the birdy?

 

Anders has Karl and talks about his desire for pretty women in Awakening.

 

Anders was lying. He loves hairy chests, large biceps and firm buttocks.

 


Realistically, getting into character creation preferences is probably a bridge too far. But stuff like a mage suddenly finding herself rather a lot less interested in my warrior the second I pick the templar spec... That'd be character development, and awesome.

 

It would if there was any mention to it.

 

"Oh... you're a Templar now?" rather than "I DON'T LIKE YOU NO MORE!" It comes out of frickin' nowhere if a character who was at the point of sleeping with you on the Kitchen floor simply stopped. Hesitant, reluctant, all those things need to come into the equation.

 

I might be being too picky though, but the added complexity makes it for a hard task.

 

Again, I usually underestimate the capabilities of video games and their designers. It could be entirely possible without so much difficulty.

 

Or not.

 

I'm kind of cynical really.



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"I do not care. I have no problem playing whatever I need to romance whomever I want."

 

This would mean mean choice of romance option is, to you, a primary motivation in character choice?

Out of curiosity, do you play the game once, or multiple times?

1. No it doesn't. I'm not gaga over romances like most people here, but I try it out at least once to see the content. 

2. Multiple times.



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Provided it had good story reason class-gate would work.

 

That said I'm not too fond of gating. Gender makes sense. Race somehow. Other than that, BW better hand us guidebook to make our characters using the preferences of LI. Female? Okay. Elf? That's fine. What else? I need to play necromancer mage? Okay then she needs to be blond, scar under the eye, no freckless and green eyes earn you some approval points? Great.

 

The problem there would be that I wouldn't be playing my character anymore. That's why I don't like gatings much, I like freedom.



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"I DON'T LIKE YOU NO MORE"

 

This is actually a fairly good argument why choice of spec may not be the best 'binary gating tool here' - you might pick it after you've started a romance, and once you've already started one, it's probably time for the gating to stop and the more reactionary give and take content to start.



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Everyone should be available to anyone, that's what made da2 so great no discrimination or anything.

 

having race based romances is well racist.



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I usually don't do any non-human romances in dragon age. I also tend to shy away from any hetero. So it looks like my options are narrowed down to Josephine and Sera for my first main playthrough.

I'm extremely pleased with the race and gender gating. It makes the companions even more believable. Plus it adds the need to do a number of different playthroughs to experience all that Inquisition has to offer.  I've never had the need to romance all of the things more than I have with Inquisition. I will probably have 8 different playthroughs, each with a different romance and world state! I'm stoked! 



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From Bios position I think they did a very smart thing. The story looks good, the options look acceptable and with the gating they have in place it makes it more interesting to do multiple playthroughs. Now of course it will depend a lot on the dialogues they have turned out.

My personal preference is to play as myself, so hopefully there will be a tool, and modders that can open up the LIs to interact with more races and genders.

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I love gating, I hated the Playersexual nature of DA2. I am very pleased to see all the restrictions. 

 

Edit: They no longer seem like cardboard cutouts just waiting for the players attention. They seem more like actual people. Sorry guys, but some people -are- racist. Some people -do- have unfair preferences. The political correctness was out of hand before. I am glad to see they are daring now. So long as they remove the Underwear sex I am golden.


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I didn't mind the DA2 approach to romances. however either this or the DA:I approach is fine for me, because if I assume that my first Inquisitor will be a human male, then I could have several romance options....my Inquisitor could romance the Iron Bull or Josephine or several others, my Hawke romanced Fenris/Merrill, my Warden romanced Leliana + Zevran.

I am particularly pleased to see a pansexual option in the form of the Iron Bull...but overall I do see why either one approach OR the other may be preferable to some people.



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Okay ... Bloodmage romancing Fenris is weird? On the paper, yes, if every line of dialogue plays out as for anyone else...but in fact, this combination could actually be the most spicey and interesting one, full of conflict, potential, questioning the characters believes and opinions...

 

I find it way more fascinating to imagine Fenris being torn apart inside because he feels so attracted to a Bloodmage, which he should despise...that's a combination you'd use telling a romance in a book.

 

So instead of restrictions being placed upon the players I'd rather see some effort in making these classes, races etcs adressed in teh romance, and the possible conflicts coming from them. But that would surely mean far more work, so I guess artifical limitations is what we get?

 

P.S. I never romanced Fenris as MAge, so if that actually IS adressed during the romace I did not know and you can call me a fool :P


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I don't mind gender/race gating at all. I agree with the people that feel it gives a character more personality than if they just love you, the Inquisitor, no matter what.

 

I don't think "gating" based on CC would be a good idea because I dunno how realistic that is. My physical preference for people is shorter with dark hair...but my husband is nearly 6 feet tall and has dirty blond hair! Because, really, in the end what matters is what type of person he is, even if he doesn't fit my personal physical preferences. So thinking about it--and also thinking about a game I've played on mobile recently called Kitty Powers' Matchmaker, where characters have preferences for eye/hair color but it doesn't prevent them from liking people outside of their preferences--it might be better if they had a system where a character either starts with a slight bonus based on certain traits (they like Inquisitors with blue eyes, or red hair, or a button nose, etc) or maybe it's easier to gain romance points with a character if you fit certain things they like/harder if you have things they really DON'T like.

 

That'd probably be really difficult and complicated to implement when romance has never been THE key feature in DA games though, so it'd probably be better not to mess with it.



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Indeed, Romance is never the games main focus. Although you would never think that, considering how upset people get about these damn Romances. Of course ignore the fact that your courtship is rewarded with sex, and afterwards you have little contact with them again after that, at least in their more modern games. That's not how actual relationships work, but I digress. 



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I love gating, I hated the Playersexual nature of DA2. I am very pleased to see all the restrictions. 

 

Edit: They no longer seem like cardboard cutouts just waiting for the players attention. They seem more like actual people. Sorry guys, but some people -are- racist. Some people -do- have unfair preferences. The political correctness was out of hand before. I am glad to see they are daring now. So long as they remove the Underwear sex I am golden.

So people without set preferences don't seem like real people to you?