I HOPE NOT.
Hawke already had his/her own game to screw things up. Hawke's story is done. This is the Inquisitor's story. I'll tolerate a cameo but hope it doesn't turn into anything more than that.
The developers said that Hawke's story is not done......
The developers said that Hawke's story is not done......
It wouldn't surprised me if if some part of DA2's canceled expansion's story is included in Inquisition. I would like to see how the developers intended their story to end. Hopefully they it won't involve them getting hit in the face nearly as much.
It wouldn't surprised me if if some part of DA2's canceled expansion's story is included in Inquisition. I would like to see how the developers intended their story to end. Hopefully they it won't involve them getting hit in the face nearly as much.
They said part of the Exalted March DLC is included in Inquisition. I wonder what's it about.....
They said part of the Exalted March DLC is included in Inquisition. I wonder what's it about.....
Sounds interesting but I can't imagine what that would be related to... or how the Chantry is going to organize a March now that they are so weak. Maybe it'll take the form of a War Table mission, and Hawke will be included in some way?
They said part of the Exalted March DLC is included in Inquisition. I wonder what's it about.....
I always figured the Exalted March DLC would involve Hawke basically convincing the Mages and Templars to agree to a truce. So it probably would've directly led up to the opening of DA2.
Nah... I'm not going to believe that a rookie fresh out of "formal training" is somehow on the level of a person who fought and negotiated their way from being an impoverished merc living in their uncle's shack to the most respected person in the city and possibly even Viscount. That's going too far.
None of those skills involve leadership. They involve having a **** ton of money and killing people. He's on his way to being a pretty good politician, but far from a military commander.
None of those skills involve leadership. They involve having a **** ton of money and killing people. He's on his way to being a pretty good politician, but far from a military commander.
So not being considered a hero among a city is an example of poor leadership skills? Besides you'll probably leave all the military affairs to Cullen.
None of those skills involve leadership. They involve having a **** ton of money and killing people. He's on his way to being a pretty good politician, but far from a military commander.
The Inquisitor has done nothing even close to comparable though... Hawke has practical experience in the real world. How is the Inquisitor equally qualified to lead the Inquisition? They would both need to grow into the role, but Hawke has a huge head start. And why are you discounting fighting skill? The Inquisitor isn't much of a leader if they die on their first mission... Hawke's combat history should not be ignored...
I always figured the Exalted March DLC would involve Hawke basically convincing the Mages and Templars to agree to a truce. So it probably would've directly led up to the opening of DA2.
lol That would've pissed off a few people I know about on both sides. 
Combat history doesn't necessarily make you a good leader. Hawke doesn't really do much to keep his companions in line or from killing each other. They seem to kind of do that on their own. Relationships can be complicated over a 10 year period.
And almost all of Hawke's experience is in a single city. That's not as much of an adventurer as we'd like to make out. Yes s/he did adventurer like things but they never traveled far from home. Dealing with a single location is actually much easier than dealing with lots of different areas and takes a different set of skills. Hawke only even has 3 scenarios where there is what can be considered a real adventure quality to it. Going into the Deep Roads and the two DLC's. And going into the Deep Roads is actually supported by a whole cast of support characters we never really see in the form of the expeditionary party.
Climbing the social ladder doesn't necessarily denote any real leadership qualities either. Kirkwall itself shows that there are plenty of people in leadership positions that probably shouldn't be for various reasons. Leadership capabilities occasionally being one of them. The Viscount himself even shows these problems at times worrying over politics to the point of basically doing nothing and handing over sensitive tasks to somebody with a fairly bloody reputation even when playing a Good Hawke.
So Hawke did some great things yes. But Hawke didn't really do any of them in a fashion that really gives any advantage of consideration over somebody who is a bit more fresh to the fray. Not even the combat prowess. Combat Prowess is actually the easiest of the kinds of skills we are talking about to build up so it holds the least amount of weight. On the other hand there is potential for at least some leadership and diplomacy training for any of our inquisitors that while somewhat untested can actually overcome that combat advantage unless you plan on doing all of your negotiating and leadership by force.
Edit: Also another thing we have to say about Hawke while we are being candid is we cannot say how much of a role Varric actually played in holding the group together or influencing some of the situations that helped Hawke ascend the cities ranks. Varric actually does show a fair bit of leadership potential and diplomatic capability. Partly through a silver tongue....
I want my Hawke as a valuable asset to the Inquisition.
Tbh, I'd rather Hawke led the Inquisition than this upstart new protagonist... I know it's an unpopular opinion, but there it is. At the very least s/he should be a party member, although that still wouldn't be all that satisfying...
Naw, as much I like Hawke, I rather have a new protagonist lead the Inquisition.
Interesting to say Hawke isn't combat prowess. I will say, maybe your Hawke isn't considered prowess, mine is.
Killed a High Dragon, dealt with many darkspawn, at least twice if not 4 times dependent on choices, killed the Arishok (mine was always a duel), killed Meredith, killed many street thugs, several blood mages, part of the carta, killed two wyverns, many guards in said area, killed many qunari, Unbound, demons, a necromancer, and others. Nope, not skilled in combat at all...nope. Nope definitely not skilled. 
But, you were mostly saying wasn't a leader when my Hawke kept them together. If my Hawke weren't skilled as a leader, then the followers would have left, they didn't.
Next time, convey your Hawke, not everyone's Hawke.
Hawke is the greatest THUG character ever dude or chick kills eveything i would love to make Hawke an Commander of the Inquisition what is Varric nickname for Hawke wasn't it KILLER lol
If anything I want my Hawke to get a chance to kill that doofus Sebastian in Inquisition.
Sebastian: Useless dlc character with no personality beyond being religious. No reason to use him because Varric is better. Gets all pouty and threatens Kirkwall with an army because my special ed friend blew up some old lady.
I think Hawke should get more than just a Cameo to be honest I have to agree with Icy Hawke isnt the problem he/she never was it was the writing and choices made by Bioware in DA2 that game was a major Dissapointment.And lets all be honest the Exalted Marches Expansion wouldnt have saved DA2 it might have helped a bit but come on DA2 was a hotmess the problem was when they decided "Hey lets take away the players choice yeah lets do that".
I would like Hawke to be a Secret Companion because the Character was good but was handled poorly and in regards to the Inquisitors Story being over shadowed by Hawke seriously come on Hawke would most likly be dealing with the Mage/Templar War which is nothing the Inquistor is sealing the Veil Tears and is saving Thedas you tell me which is more important. 
Yeah. Its not like 'Legacy' or 'Mark of the Assassin' really solved the agency problem from the base game.
Yeah. Its not like 'Legacy' or 'Mark of the Assassin' really solved the agency problem from the base game.
Well Legacy did have new areas and fixed the stupid enemy dropping from the sky crap so yeah they did that but thats all and Mark of the Assassin gave new Areas as well but both DLCs were crippled by Biiowares foolishness and by that I mean them making Hawke a glorified observer you feel it more in MoTA than Legacy but both suffered from it.
I think Hawke should get more than just a Cameo to be honest I have to agree with Icy Hawke isnt the problem he/she never was it was the writing and choices made by Bioware in DA2 that game was a major Dissapointment.And lets all be honest the Exalted Marches Expansion wouldnt have saved DA2 it might have helped a bit but come on DA2 was a hotmess the problem was when they decided "Hey lets take away the players choice yeah lets do that".
I would like Hawke to be a Secret Companion because the Character was good but was handled poorly and in regards to the Inquisitors Story being over shadowed by Hawke seriously come on Hawke would most likly be dealing with the Mage/Templar War which is nothing the Inquistor is sealing the Veil Tears and is saving Thedas you tell me which is more important.
Meh DA2 to me was far from a hot mess.
Well Legacy did have new areas and fixed the stupid enemy dropping from the sky crap so yeah they did that but thats all and Mark of the Assassin gave new Areas as well but both DLCs were crippled by Biiowares foolishness and by that I mean them making Hawke a glorified observer you feel it more in MoTA than Legacy but both suffered from it.
Yeah. I was specifically talking about agency. Gameplay-wise, the dlc's were better received.
Well.....DA2 was a hot mess for me......mmm uh...nevermind.
Meh DA2 to me was far from a hot mess.
Well to each their own my friend but the constantly reused eviorments and retarded encounter system "The one they fixed in Legacy" combined with the rather stupid handleing of Hawke and their inability to affect the story at all to me is a bad game.
I hope Hawke won't have too much screen time.
I'm fine with it if they are part of a quest or two, but I don't want them to fill up a companion slot, like what happend in MotA.
Yeah. I was specifically talking about agency. Gameplay-wise, the dlc's were better received.
Oh I know I was just saying that gameplay wise if the base game DA2 was handled as well as Legacy maybe it wouldnt be the Black Mark in the Franchise like it is to alot of us.
I believe Hawke and The Commander will be unique advisers to help The Inquisitor during Critical Desitions and Possible Outpost leaders.
David Gaider categorically stated that the Warden will NOT appear in DAI.
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