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[TTTX]

I personally wouldn't let Hawke handle any political matters if DA2 showed, Hawke isn't really good at handle that kind of stuff, but Hawke can at least kill things, that's probably the only real good thing Hawke is good at.

[Lord Bolton]

I just want to see Hawke and his LI (cameo).

[TTTX]

I just want to see Hawke and his LI (cameo).

I think it's been said by one of the devs that the LI of Hawke won't show up in DA:I, at least not at Hawke's side.

[pengwin21]

I believe they said that returning characters would be more than a cameo, though what Bioware considers a cameo compared to some fans might be quite different.

[aTigerslunch]

My Hawke was good at diplomacy, but it isn't Hawkes fault that there is an idol mind changing crazy madness good time Killer dealer.  Remember, that First Enchanter was usually always right next to her, surprised he didn't get as crazy as she was.

[Gileadan]

The problem with Hawke was the extreme railroading of DA2's story (despite the marketing claim of a story that "shapes itself around your decisions"), and those rails took some rather unfortunate and sometimes stupid turns. Sure, Hawke could lean a bit to the left or right once in a while, but never more than that.

I have no attachment to the character Hawke or their story. I got to control him only for a tiny fraction of the time that passes in DA2. It felt like going to a pen and paper RPG session where one of the other guys couldn't make it and the GM handed me his character sheet. I played a tiny part of the character's story, but he/she certainly wasn't mine. I might just click all the defaults in the Keep where Hawke is concerned.

I have no problem with a cameo, but I'm glad that the Inquisitor is a new character. Proving oneself is part of the fun for me.

[KaiserShep]

I personally wouldn't let Hawke handle any political matters if DA2 showed, Hawke isn't really good at handle that kind of stuff, but Hawke can at least kill things, that's probably the only real good thing Hawke is good at.

 

Thing is, most if not all of the political problems going on were on account of everyone else, particularly the grossly ineffectual viscount. I'm not a fan of Petrice, but she was right about him.

[Sviken]

Thing is, most if not all of the political problems going on were on account of everyone else, particularly the grossly ineffectual viscount. I'm not a fan of Petrice, but she was right about him.

And Hawke had the opportunity to stop them all, but he didn't. There are two cannon Hawke's for me - one is grossly incompetent thug that did mercenary work even after he got rich and the other one is - just a lazy guy that wants to stay in his house doing nothing all day because you can't possibly convince me that he couldn't have prevented the following things:

 

1 - Petrice from instigating the Qunari riot - he could have killed her multiple times and you even have the option to say ''I'll kill you'' (yet you do nothing). It was so obvious Petrice was going to cause more and more problems, yet Hawke did absolutely nothing

 

2. In the 3 years that he was Champion he could have easily brokered a truce between Meredith and Orsino (he was extremely wealthy and probably the most respected person in Kirkwall. The city basically adored him for saving them) yet in those 3 years everything seems to have gone from bad to worse. Wtf was Hawke doing as the "Champion"?

 

3. He couldn't stop Anders even through Anders flat out told him he was going to do something incredibly stupid. And then when Anders did blow up the Chantry, he seemed surprised...

 

And I won't delve anymore deeper like Talis, Leandra and the rest of the stupid things he did, you get the idea. What i'm trying to say is although none of these things I listed started because of Hawke, he could have easily prevented every single one of them, if he had an IQ higher than 50.

[TTTX]

Thing is, most if not all of the political problems going on were on account of everyone else, particularly the grossly ineffectual viscount. I'm not a fan of Petrice, but she was right about him.

true, but by the time act 2 ends Hawke is pretty much one of the most powerful people on Kirkwall (for better or worse), but for some reason 3 years goes by and the city becomes worse because Orsino's and Meredith's actions and Hawke does apparently nothing until they are both more or less at his/her's doorstep causing a fuzz.

 

We are never giving a reason why Hawke stays out of it, he/she just does stay out of it, even as things got worse and worse.

 

Edit: I got ninjaed. 

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

3. He couldn't stop Anders even through Anders flat out told him he was going to do something incredibly stupid. And then when Anders did blow up the Chantry, he seemed surprised...

Yeah...about that, I didn't mean to defend Hawke but at least if you're going to criticize him/her please do your research. To be fair, actually you could tell Cullen about Anders's plan...but it still doesn't change anything as you can see. I blame Cullen on this one, and I literally want to choke him in this scene...seriously?! he's right there arrest him!

 

 

[TTTX]

2. In the 3 years that he was Champion he could have easily brokered a truce between Meredith and Orsino (he was extremely wealthy and probably the most respected person in Kirkwall. The city basically adored him for saving them) yet in those 3 years everything seems to have gone from bad to worse. Wtf was Hawke doing as the "Champion"?

We get to know the Champion went to some parties, but other then that we have no idea.

[GDog89]

David Gaider categorically stated that the Warden will NOT appear in DAI.

He said from DAO I was referring to the DAA one or that random one in the trailor

[ManOfSteel]

If Hawke is appearing (as we've seen) then I'd like him/her to play a role in the story beyond a simple cameo.

[Sviken]

Yeah...about that, I didn't mean to defend Hawke but at least if you're going to criticize him/her please do your research. To be fair, actually you could tell Cullen about Anders's plan...but it still doesn't change anything as you can see. I blame Cullen on this one, and I literally want to choke him in this scene...seriously?! he's right there arrest him!

 

 

So you can't kill Anders yourself before he does the act? It's not like you didn't kill 1000+ people in the game, what's one more going to do?

 

Also, as you said, he was right there. Can't you detain him yourself while Cullen goes to ask Meredith? Poor writing.

[Lindum]

I hope that Hawke's appearance in DAI, is only for a quest that concludes his/her story.

[TheTurtle]

I think people are grossly overestimating how much power Hawke actually had.

[TTTX]

I think people are grossly overestimating how much power Hawke actually had.

Hawke is friends with Varric who has giant information network, possibly friends with Captain of the Guards, every noble is pretty much kissing Hawke's ass and are more less hoping he/she will become Vicount, etc.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

I think people are grossly overestimating how much power Hawke actually had.

Indeed, and to be fair many of Hawke's power actually came from his/her acquaintances/friends.

[Br3admax]

The Inquisitor has done nothing even close to comparable though... Hawke has practical experience in the real world.  How is the Inquisitor equally qualified to lead the Inquisition?  They would both need to grow into the role, but Hawke has a huge head start.  And why are you discounting fighting skill?  The Inquisitor isn't much of a leader if they die on their first mission... Hawke's combat history should not be ignored...

The fact that the Inquisitor doesn't have those skills, proven, doesn't make Hawke a better candidate if they too don't have those skills. The previous leader is also Cassandra, who is the most competent thing to come out of DA][. If you don't trust her judgement, I really have no words. 

 

I think people are grossly overestimating how much power Hawke actually had.

 

Loading screens say that Hawke is the second most powerful person in the city behind Knight-Commander Meredith, who also gives Hawke more influence depending on your relationship with her. You don't even have to agree with, so much as respect her. Hawke's pretty damn influential. 

[Muspade]

Indeed, and to be fair many of Hawke's power actually came from his/her acquaintances/friends.

Having a good network is "Power" as well you know. 

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

Having a good network is "Power" as well you know. 

Except without those acquaintances/friends Hawke's power will decrease. We are talking about Hawke's power as personal so it's Hawke alone, not Hawke and his/her allies included.

[Muspade]

Except without those acquaintances/friends Hawke's power will decrease. We are talking about Hawke's power as personal so it's Hawke alone, not Hawke and his/her allies included.

No one can stand alone. Measuring a man's "power" and "influence" as an individual is fairly futile. Networking is required.

Hawke has it.

[BloodKaiden]

No one can stand alone. Measuring a man's "power" and "influence" as an individual is fairly futile. Networking is required.
Hawke has it.

I felt the same way about the Warden.

[Sviken]

Except without those acquaintances/friends Hawke's power will decrease. We are talking about Hawke's power as personal so it's Hawke alone, not Hawke and his/her allies included.

Hawke was one of the richest people in Kirkwall, he is also the most respected and is the Champion of the city. As Br3admax also said, in the loading screens of Act III it says he is the second most influential person in Kirkwall behind Meredith. If that's not power, then I don't know what it is.