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[bootyislovebootyislife]

So I've been wondering how Bioware was going to deal with our Dragon Age 2 companions cameos, if there are to be any. It's a touchy topic because all of your companions can be dead (except Aveline and Varric i think), Fenris can be a slave in Tevinter, Isabela can be handed to the Qunari etc... 

 

However, I thought that it'd be convenient and would sorta make sense for the devs to make the ones they don't want to spend a lot of time on, at the peace gathering. Hear me out. After the events of Dragon Age 2, Hawke is either the Viscount of Kirkwall or an icon for the mages' plight. I think it would make sense if he/she attended the peace gathering either on the templars or mages' side, with his companions (Your sibling if he/she is alive, no matter his/her allegiance, Merril, Anders if he's alive, his LI, etc) or at least some of them, because Hawke and his/her companions were basically at the center of the Mage-Templar war. Then, the peace gathering goes bing bang boom, you had your cameos, they ded.

 

Two other arguments that support this.

 

1. Bioware likes to make the people you care about die in your origin story (See Dragon age origins or Dragon Age 2), however they said each background won't have an origin portion in the game, meaning that wether you are human noble, Qunari mercenary or elven spy, you start the game at the peace gathering. How do they make you care about the people dying? Involve your DA2 companions.

 

2. It's still speculation, but many people think that after the explosion the Inquisitor is sent in the Fade. We also saw a portion of trailer where Hawke and an unamed Warden come to the Quizzy's side, with the background resembling a Fade sequence. This could be the beginning of the game and Hawke is in the fade because he/she is dead. Otherwise, even though the Inquisition's sole purpose isn't to solve the mage-templar conflict, why would they give the lead on this matter to anybody but Hawke? Cause he/she ded.

 

What do you guys think?

[Elhanan]

I am somewhat unconcerned, as all that resultant ash might be somewhat restorative in nature (Urn, lyrium, etc).

[Kieran G.]

It would be interesting to see who is at haven during the early hours of the game. like i wonder if we will see other faces which weren't guests to the actual summit but came as representatives or respected faces. 

 

I mean people like ambassador Teagan and such. 

[veeia]

I would love to see Teagan! Not at the summit, of course.

(Although I did just laugh at the idea of "Teee-gun, who is this wo--" BOOM)

[thats1evildude]

From what I can tell, there will be little to no time spent at the summit before the big kaboom. I wouldn't worry overly about cameos.

[Kieran G.]

From what I can tell, there will be little to no time spent at the summit before the big kaboom. I wouldn't worry overly about cameos.

Yeah it does seem that way unless the version that Mike and Cameron were using was just a demo version.

[TheJediSaint]

From what I can tell, there will be little to no time spent at the summit before the big kaboom. I wouldn't worry overly about cameos.

After walking out of the Fade.

Cassandra:  What happened?

Pre-Inquisitor: I don't know, I just got here myself.

[HiroVoid]

From what I can tell, there will be little to no time spent at the summit before the big kaboom. I wouldn't worry overly about cameos.

Ugh....I really hope that's not the case.

[thats1evildude]

In medias res, bitches!

[aTigerslunch]

Hawke wont be at the meeting, as they are alive and well when facing that many eyed demon with the Inquisitor.

[Ceoldoren]

Ugh....I really hope that's not the case.

Well if the main menu screen is actually started up with the tear opening. I really doubt we'll get a chance to see the peace conference. Though it is possible that the twitch stream had a special main menu so they didn't spoil the opening.

[MasterPrudent]

Hawke wont be at the meeting, as they are alive and well when facing that many eyed demon with the Inquisitor.

I wouldn't rule it out solely on that basis as that could be a dream or it could take part in the fade but this is a good point.

[KC_Prototype]

Booty is love?? Okay...But anyway, I think we'll be seeing Tegan because he is the new Arl of Redcliffe and I hope we see Isabella, Anders and Bethany/Carver. Both Bethany and Carver's have ties to each big faction in DAI with either the Mages/Templars or Grey Wardens. 

[BloodKaiden]

When Hawke shows up I half expect Anders to be standing with him as he was his LI and I let him live. Doubt it will be so early in the game though.

[aTigerslunch]

If I could, I would snapshot that background of where Hawke runs up to the Inquisitor with a .....grey Warden.....hmmm.. Actually might be closer to the point of the story when dealing with Grey Wardens than anything else. 

[TheSwordofDawn]

I doubt that Hawke will be at the meeting.  From the epilogue clip in DA2 it seemed that Cassandra had opted to focus on a different path instead of finding the champion who may be able to end the Templar/mage conflict.  It would make sense if Hawke was still the Viscount or a rallying point for mages across Thedas to go to (like a headquarters with Hawke as the leader of the conflict) to attend the peace summit at Haven but as that has (as far as we know) not happened then I think that Hawke is just on the run with their LI.  I also doubt that Bioware will be willingly killing off a PC of role play quality as there will be many people (like the fate of the Warden in Origins) who may be a tad upset if their Hawke is killed off in such a fashion when their canon Hawke is off sunning his/herself on the beaches of the Wounded Coast. 

 

It would be interesting to see who will be at the meeting.  We'll probably see some faces from Asunder (Fiona and the one with the red hair....I can't remember her name.. ), the circles (like Irving) etc.

 

 

[Hydwn]

Since they've confirmed a fairly large number of companions won't be coming back (Shale, Zevran, Fenris, Wynne, the Warden themselves) or are coming back in some specific capacity unrelated to the peace conference (Varric, Alistair, Leliana, Morrigan), it's not likely for primary characters.

 

I expect a few familiar faces will be at the conference itself, assuming we get to see it.  I'm kind of hoping I don't see anyone I actually like there, because given the fan backlash I don't think they're going to try that "urn resurrects people" thing twice, and I'm guessing anyone else at the conference proper is dead

 

Haven is more likely to have people there - people who didn't make it to the conference "in time."  That kind of makes me wonder about Cassandra and Leliana.  Presumably the Divine was at the conference, so what were her right hand and left hands doing safely in the field...?  I mean, Cassandra and Leliana are essentially her bodyguards-in-chief, and if the Divine was at the conference, that'd mean she was surrounded by people who wanted to kill her.

  

And if the Divine wasn't there, why wasn't she...?

 

As for companions we're likely to see overall, I'm guessing Isabela.  Most of the DAO cast has been confirmed yay or nay, and the DA2 cast can all die except for the two rogues.  Isabela shows up in the comics, so it's established she knows both Alistair and Varric

 

EDIT: Er, three rogues.  I forgot Sebastian, as undoubtedly will Theodosian history.  He could have a cameo too, especially if he's raised an army in Starkhaven.

[Mistic]

Did I miss new information again? I mean, the Character Creator livestrem in Twitch showed a probable beginning of the game: mages and templars marching to the Temple, then everything explodes and the future Inquisitor wakes up in a ruined landscape that may be the Fade. So no cameos, no talking to the guests, nothing.

 

That's why I'm asking if there's new information.

[bootyislovebootyislife]

Did I miss new information again? I mean, the Character Creator livestrem in Twitch showed a probable beginning of the game: mages and templars marching to the Temple, then everything explodes and the future Inquisitor wakes up in a ruined landscape that may be the Fade. So no cameos, no talking to the guests, nothing.

 

That's why I'm asking if there's new information.

There isn't it's just that in my opinion, they showed us a modified demo. I doubt there won't even be a cutscene or prologue to explain to us what is happening (I mean there are some new players). 

[Mistic]

There isn't it's just that in my opinion, they showed us a modified demo. I doubt there won't even be a cutscene or prologue to explain to us what is happening (I mean there are some new players). 

 

True enough, but that introduction could be a video like Duncan's tale explaining what a Blight was and what he had found in Ferelden that played right before the character creation in DA:O.

[Arvaarad]

A bit hard to visit a mortal peace conference when you live in the Fade. I'm sure the PC would have loved to watch, but it needed a body to hitch a ride on first.

/crackpot theory

[MissMayhem96]

Man, I don't want to see my Hawke die in an explosion like that.

 

But yes, It's common for Bioware games that a person always dies in the beginning of a game that you are acquainted with. 

 

Bethany/Carver, Tamlen, Noble human's origin story, etc. and even the ME series.

[Reptillius]

Deaths at the beginning of Bioware games goes back a lot farther than ME and DA. Go check out the Baldur's gate games done in '98 and y2k.

[Kieran G.]

If it was a modified demo it didn't seem that modified, since they started the game just so they could enter the character creator. and then loaded up a save file to play the area they wanted to show.

 

And what we've seen from actual Modified demo's they tend to be there own game that really just has the demo itself for the conference they are attending. But since when they started the game they had to actually boot it up like a normal game makes me doubt that was a demo version. just a development or testing version.

 

But this version had many different saves and i doubt they were all the same. So i'm guessing thats how the game is going to start, but just with a voice over with Morrigan telling us what has happened in the last 4 or so years. 

 

Also they have said the start of the game we will be using Haven as a base. 

 

But more to the point why would all these different people be at the Summit its self if its to negotiate a peace? only the respected parties would be there(Leaders of templar forces, leaders of the mage forces.) and one moderator, I.E the Divine. So any familiar faces would probably be outside of the temple in haven or the forces surrounding and marching to the temple.

 

Probably the reason a mercenary company was in the temple its self was because none of the parties had any forces there so it would stay peaceful. which would explain why the right and left hand of the divine weren't at the temple. and again would give reason why probably most people were at haven and not the summit

[Reptillius]

The Mercenary Band your Qunari comes from is there as Security.

 

But More than that. We are talking about a world wide event. You can consider the groups there everything from Reporters to Supporters and Dissidents.  Everybody has a stake in what happens between the two factions  It's not just two groups and a moderator because this is no mundane peace conference.  Normal Rules are not going to apply.