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[Aenoan]

I am getting all refreshed for Inquisition. 

 

So with that I am playing through DA:O/Awakening and DA2 all over again, I had a pretty significant break from the games (haven't played since they first came out) as far as I can tell with DA:O I have all the DLC for when they came out. But none of the DA2 DLC.

 

So I was wondering...

 

What would be the most cannon way to play through at least DA:O I know there isn't much point with DA2 though I may go pick up the DLC anyway... I really didn't like DA2 at all to be honest, so I power gamed through it just to say, yeah I finished...this is my chance to take it a bit more seriously and try to enjoy the lore. 

 

But not having my character export w/ his gear from Origins to Awakening kinds pisses me off, I worked really hard and played through on nightmare the first time 'round. 

 

Anyway, thanks for the help!

 

TL:DR - Looking for what would be considered the most canon path through DA:O + Expansion and DLC up to DA2 because I hope to use the lore / character in DA:I.

[X Equestris]

There isn't really a "canon" path. Whatever you decide to do is your canon.

[Lavaeolus]

What would be the most cannon way

 
I'd imagine you can get similar results from a mage specialising in fireballs. Some training in Poison-Making wouldn't hurt.

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Going by what's in the books and all that: try not to kill any companions, recruit pretty much everyone ("Secret Companion" is an exception here), and side with Alistair over Anora. Same with DA2, Alistair/Anora choice aside. Pretty sure Ferelden's mages are all fine too. Lot of leeway here, but generally the Warden probably took the moral highroad. They probably didn't romance anyone (another thing you might want to disregard for the sake of seeing new things on your new playthrough). Hawke likely did not help Meredith in the Annulment.
 
Human Noble is probably the defaultly expected playthrough, though the actual default for Inquisition is a female Dalish, oddly enough. The default is, however, designed deliberately to minimise your Warden's role, so they've done the Ultimate Sacrifice. It's not quite the same as "canon", for all canon is worth in this series. Might actually be one of the reasons why they went with Dalish, come to think of it.

EDIT: Oh! The Awakening thing, I'm pretty sure most of your gear does export apart from some DLC items. I think you can get a mod to make it work, but I don't know if you're even on a PC.

[Hydwn]

The canon Warden they use for the books and other media is a Dalish female elf who dies in the Ultimate Sacrifice ending.  The canon Hawke is a male mage who sides with the mages.  Alistair lives and rules alone, and the Warden mostly made "good" choices.  That's what they'll attach to your character if you make a new Warden in Awakening, and that's first of the list of default choices for both DA2 and apparently Inquisition

 

Though I notice in later books are avoiding mentioning the details, presumably to avoid stepping on the player's personal canon.

[X Equestris]

Yes, Bioware's canon is meant to tie up loose ends. Whether that's really what you want to do is up to you. You'll get that world state anyway with the default.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

I think the Martyr preset from DA2 seems to represent what went down according to Bioware's defaults. (They aren't strictly considered a canon yet.) I'm not sure what Hawke did.

[Dasaed]

"The most canon" way would be to make your own canon story.

[Jerkules17]

Canon is what ever you want it to be. The default canon is just default,and from what I read it isn't always used for every Dragon Age project like comics or books. Even the Dragon Age 2 (set) default canon is contradicted by the current default canon. So to put it short. It's your story(canon),and cool story(canon) bro. Hope this helps.

[Aenoan]

Yeah, I am looking for I guess the best way to follow the lore & story of the DA games. Like what would be the best order to play all the DLC's in and race to pick. I read somewhere that elf and mage are likely to be the most accurate cannon for the game, but the only proof I have of that is the fact that at one point Hawke mentions the Warden as a cousin who was a mage, but I am not sure of the exact quote. 

 

I was thinking of Leliana's Song > Origins >  Warden's Keep > Stone Prisoner > Return to Ostagar (these 3 during origins ofc) > The Darkspawn Chronicles > The Golems of Amgarrak > Awakening > Witch Hunt 

 

Awakening and Witch Hunt last since you can export a saved game coming from Witch Hunt to play in Dragon Age 2. Technically you can import a saved game coming from Awakening itself to play your Warden in Witch Hunt, so everything you did in Awakening is kept in memory for Witch Hunt, and then everything you do in Witch Hunt is added to the flags of events (Awakenings events + Witch Hunt) for an exported game to Dragon Age 2. At least this is my understanding. 

 

Now I just have to decide if I want to play Noble human, Elf or Dwarf Noble. I played mage originally and I did perform the ultimate sacrifice. 

But this time I may save that honor for the Loghain if i can find a way to keep Alistar in the party too. Lol.  He's gonna be king anyway and I almost prefer it story wise I think Alistar makes a great king but I definitely want to see more of my Warden, I grew rather fond of him during my first play through.  Him and Lelianna ran off with each other, it was pretty epic.  I like to find a way to see him take more of a role in DA2 if possible even if its just mentioned in passing so it feels like I actually made a difference.  Which is why I was leaning towards either Noble Human or Dwarf, I remember the origins story for dwarf was pretty awesome. 

[Hydwn]

The only way to recruit Loghain and keep Alistair from wandering off is to "harden" him during the Alistair's family quest.

 

Oddly the default "Martyr" history for DA2 includes "Loghain alive, Alistair king, Warden sacrificed."  I would never have thought of that as canon.  I've never known anyone to recruit Loghain except to sacrifice him.

[Dasaed]

The Golems of Amgarrak > Awakening

 

 

I thought Golems happened after Awakening. There is a letter in the GoA that is addressed to the Warden-Commander at Vigil's Keep, asking for assistance.

[Hydwn]

Yeah, I am looking for I guess the best way to follow the lore & story of the DA games. Like what would be the best order to play all the DLC's in and race to pick. I read somewhere that elf and mage are likely to be the most accurate cannon for the game, but the only proof I have of that is the fact that at one point Hawke mentions the Warden as a cousin who was a mage, but I am not sure of the exact quote. 

 

 

Also, that quote only happens if you picked a mage warden  - the default mage warden is an Amell, a cousin on his mother's side.

 

If you pick a Dalish elf, Merrill has all kinds of unique dialogue because she knew you.  A Cousland woman who married Alistair gets unique lines about her too.

 

But it's Dalish female elf self-sacrifice in all the media, if that's what you're going for, with Alistair king.  no mention of the Dalish elf's class or specialiations or romance anywhere though.

[Dasaed]

No mention of the Dalish elf's class or specialiations or romance anywhere though.

 

It would have to a rogue or warrior though, since the Dalish elves don't have an option to be a mage in DA:O. As for romance, who says they had to have one?

[Hydwn]

It would have to a rogue or warrior though, since the Dalish elves don't have an option to be a mage in DA:O. As for romance, who says they had to have one?

 

True enough.  It seems to be a larger part of the game for the average player than for the devs, and this is their version we're talking about

 

Still, it's fun to speculate.  which makes the best story?  Monk-like celibacy by a warden devoted to a cause?  Doomed romance with Alistair?  Lost love for Leliana?  A brief, torrid love affiar with Zevran?  Which fits best?

[Dasaed]

True enough.  It seems to be a larger part of the game for the average player than for the devs, and this is their version we're talking about

 

Still, it's fun to speculate.  which makes the best story?  Monk-like celibacy by a warden devoted to a cause?  Doomed romance with Alistair?  Lost love for Leliana?  A brief, torrid love affiar with Zevran?  Which fits best?

 

Who knows? SInce it is the devs version of the story, maybe the Warden had a bit of romance with all 3? Or since it is a female Dalish, maybe their heart belonged to Tamlen and they were never able to get over his loss?

[Jerkules17]

I'm shocked they didn't pick the dwarf noble default from 2. That was bad as the Mass Effect default story. Still I read that in one of the comics Alistair did the ritual. The human noble was originally the set default when starting 2. I'm guessing they picked the dalish origin since it had no involvement  with any of origins' main quest,not including witch hunt,plus it ties in with 2 since the dalish(forgot the clan name) were there,which ties in with Hawke,who ties in with DAI.

[Dasaed]

I'm shocked they didn't pick the dwarf noble default from 2. That was bad as the Mass Effect default story. Still I read that in one of the comics Alistair did the ritual. The human noble was originally the set default when starting 2. I'm guessing they picked the dalish origin since it had no involvement  with any of origins' main quest,not including witch hunt,plus it ties in with 2 since the dalish(forgot the clan name) were there,which ties in with Hawke,who ties in with DAI.

 

The clan's name is Sabrae.

[Jerkules17]

Yeah Sabrae,I was thinking it was Mahariel.

[Dasaed]

Yeah Sabrae,I was thinking it was Mahariel.

I thought so too, because that was the surname of the Dalish Warden. I assumed that their surname was the name of the clan.

[Aenoan]

I can't say I am not a little disappointed at the lack of continuity but I do like all the theories and perspectives people bring. 

 

I guess the short of it is, it doesn't matter who I pick.  It all seems to be very minor. Just brief dialogues between npcs in random parts of each game / expansion.

I guess I will probably play either Dwarf Noble or Human. I wasn't a fan of elves surprisingly that holds true in most rpgs, I think the only time I liked elves was pretty much... Lord of the Rings movies and in Everquest, LOVED Dark Elves, oh, and the Drow there is something about Menzoberranzan, that just screams YES to me.

 

Anyway I digress. 

 

I liked both Origin stories for noble but I am strugglin' to figure out which one to play. Both have similar story, back stabbed by nobility whether its rival or sibling but it whos gonna have the impact I am looking for hehe... ugh the struggle is real. 

Either way, I plan to king up Alistar again but this time save Loghain let him redeem himself for his actions in the final battle, I feel like he deserves that, he just seemed misguided to me and deserves more than just a "boot to the face"

 

The love interest will be Leliana again, I seem to remember the flavor text was quite entertaining. I am all about that. 

Alistar will be my tank, Lelianna and probably Wynne then myself for my main party, for some reason I never got into Morgan. I love the voice actor mind you, especially in Star Gate but not a big fan of the npc for some reason, might just a love hate thing I dunno.

I can't remember if the party limit is 5 including the PC or 4, if its 5 I want to sneak in Sten or Morgan I guess, the biggest problem I got with this series is lack of classes. But mages are op and I can't be a mage and human noble, lol.

[Dasaed]

The love interest will be Leliana again, I seem to remember the flavor text was quite entertaining. I am all about that. 

Alistar will be my tank, Lelianna and probably Wynne then myself for my main party, for some reason I never got into Morgan. I love the voice actor mind you, especially in Star Gate but not a big fan of the npc for some reason, might just a love hate thing I dunno.

I can't remember if the party limit is 5 including the PC or 4, if its 5 I want to sneak in Sten or Morgan I guess, the biggest problem I got with this series is lack of classes. But mages are op and I can't be a mage and human noble, lol.

 

What class are you making your warden? Nobles would be better as warriors from a lore stand point (imo anyway). Although that doesn't really answer your question...I cast my vote for dwarven noble. Also, the party limit is 4 (Your Warden and 3 others of your choosing).

[auberonh]

If you want to keep in line with the books and other media, I would suggest is having Alistair become king and recruiting and keeping all possible companions alive in the games. Many of them have shown up in books and comics, and who knows who may turn up in the future. Also, maybe lean towards the "good" side of things, as certain "bad" decisions results in the death of companions like Wynne, and Leliana.

Other than that, feel free to make any choices you want!

[Aenoan]

I haven't read the books yet, I plan too. I am not really interested in keeping them all alive. I expect good characters to eventually pass on or die in the heat of battle.

Not sure hopefully I work on everyone's loyalty high enough it won't be a terrible issue some characters I won't care too much about, the books are always gonna be different from the game. It'll be practically impossible to match or even keep up with the lore, the books are already dictated DA2 and will be affecting DA3 as it is. But I am more interested in lore of the game.

 

I am leaning towards Dwarf Noble as well I think..  If its just a party of 4 then I am probably gonna do Me - Dwarf War (dps of some kind maybe templar/x) go for a paladin feel. Alistar my beastmode tank, Leliana and Morg or Wynne. 

 

My question to you all is, who did you side with? Elves or Wolves? I can't remember what I did, I think I sided with the werewolves last time to turn them human again..

[Broganisity]

The only way to recruit Loghain and keep Alistair from wandering off is to "harden" him during the Alistair's family quest.

 

Oddly the default "Martyr" history for DA2 includes "Loghain alive, Alistair king, Warden sacrificed."  I would never have thought of that as canon.  I've never known anyone to recruit Loghain except to sacrifice him.

*Raises hand*

I won't say more because mentioning Loghain is practically the same as opening Pandora's Box here on the BSN.

Also in regards to the Elves v Werewolves? I always end up going with curing the werewolves and getting the elves. Interestingly enough, Darkspawn Chronicles claims that Alistair killed the elves and allied with the Werewolves...odd. :S

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

*Raises hand*

I won't say more because mentioning Loghain is practically the same as opening Pandora's Box here on the BSN.

Also in regards to the Elves v Werewolves? I always end up going with curing the werewolves and getting the elves. Interestingly enough, Darkspawn Chronicles claims that Alistair killed the elves and allied with the Werewolves...odd. :S

I'm under the impression that Alistair kinda went off the deep end in DC. I don't think that's considered at all canon, though.

 

Also, I've spared Loghain several times, and only once was that non-execution more of a moratorium before he did the US. (Though that's more times than I've had my Warden US.)