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[CrimsonN7]

Well to be fair Crimson Liara was a writers pet I mean damn she got her own Comic,Dlc & she was made overly important in ME3 Story no one else got that kind of treatment.

 

Which is why I hated ME3 so much my favorite female characters were not given the same appreciation seriously I would have tossed Liara sreaming out of the Airlock for proper treatment for Ashley,Miranda,Jack & Kelly.

 

Tali was my LI everytime after seeing the favortism Liara got and how Ashley was essentially Zaeed with breasts now I had no other option.

 

Liara wasn't even in the main game as a companion, only a brief moment on Illium, you had to buy a dlc to continue your romance. Ashley or Kaidan either one could be dead and besides both tell you to shove it and refuse to help you because Cerberus. She unlike them is actually willing to help you in your quest provided you give her some help too. She was important in ME3 due to her knowledge as a prothean expert and she's the resident Shadow Broker although how they handled her role as that in ME3 was lame, jeez Sam was more helpful to you at times with info then her. Bad writing was bad. Miranda was too busy with her daddy issues... again and besides ex-Cerberus ties, the Alliance were hardly gonna jump at the opportunity to give her a room/role on board the Normandy.

[Battlebloodmage]

Liara wasn't even in the main game as a companion, only a brief moment on Illium, you had to buy a dlc to continue your romance. Ashley or Kaidan either one could be dead and besides both tell you to shove it and refuse to help you because Cerberus. She unlike them is actually willing to help you in your quest provided you give her some help too. She was important in ME3 due to her knowledge as a prothean expert and she's the resident Shadow Broker although how they handled her role as that in ME3 was lame, jeez Sam was more helpful to you at times with info then her. Bad writing was bad. Miranda was too busy with her daddy issues... again and besides ex-Cerberus ties, the Alliance were hardly gonna jump at the opportunity to give her a room/role on board the Normandy.

Not trying to take a side, but her importance is being dictated by the writers, so you're just proving his point by naming all the stuffs the writers choose to give to her instead of other characters.

[CrimsonN7]

Not trying to take a side, but her importance is being dictated by the writers, so you're just proving his point by naming all the stuffs the writers choose to give to her instead of other characters.

 

Well she is an important character, and she is important to the plot, why people see the need to kill off nearly every companion they can in game because they dislike them for whatever reason is lame. I have characters I dislike in both ME and DA universe but I don't go out of my way to try to kill them even when I have the option to do so. The only one I do kill is Anders, but like his actions tied my hands there, terrorism is bad.

[LoudAngryJerk]

Different story paths are great. The fact that your companions could die depending on your choices is also great, imo. Multiple play throughs give you the option to make mistakes and adjust your canon accordingly.

my main problem with this is that there's no new game plus (at least it doesnt look like it) which means if we play through and 2 character's we like die, then we never want to play that playthrough again. especially if the events leading up to the execution take place over the course of multiple missions (ie: if you do go back to try to save them its not like you just have to go back to the beginning of the mission.

[BobZilla84]

Well she is an important character, and she is important to the plot, why people see the need to kill off nearly every companion they can in game because they dislike them for whatever reason is lame. I have characters I dislike in both ME and DA universe but I don't go out of my way to try to kill them even when I have the option to do so. The only one I do kill is Anders, but like his actions tied my hands there, terrorism is bad.

I agree with you Crimson Liara is a important Character in Mass Effect but her importance in ME3 is my only problem every other character was essentially tossed under the bus but she is everywhere storywise and damn she is the only companion that had no scripted death every other female LI character did.Liara only can be killed during the rush to the Beam at the end of the game.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Well she is an important character, and she is important to the plot, why people see the need to kill off nearly every companion they can in game because they dislike them for whatever reason is lame. I have characters I dislike in both ME and DA universe but I don't go out of my way to try to kill them even when I have the option to do so. The only one I do kill is Anders, but like his actions tied my hands there, terrorism is bad.

Lame you didn't had to kill anders becuase his actions were bad in your opinion see i can play in that logic as well...

Dislike or like don't matter (or perhaps it does in certain way) here killing companion because he is dangerous to you or simple don't agree with his/her actions is natural thing you did that as well as you said with anders.Simple peoples have different views on companions or characters and see them as dangerous to their goals/ideology or simple disagree with them. 

[CrimsonN7]

I agree with you Crimson Liara is a important Character in Mass Effect but her importance in ME3 is my only problem every other character was essentially tossed under the bus but she is everywhere storywise and damn she is the only companion that had no scripted death every other female LI character did.Liara only can be killed during the rush to the Beam at the end of the game.

 

I think you would have had to went out of your way to sabotage your game for that to happen, not collect enough military assets and such. I don't like killing off my companions myself, I try to keep everybody alive, like or dislike unless certain situations where they leave me little choice e.g. Anders.

[BobZilla84]

@CrimsonN7

Oh yeah I never kill my companions in any game my disliking of Liara didnt get her killed I always keep as many of my companions alive provided I can except Anders I murder knife him everytime.

[CrimsonN7]

Lame you didn't had to kill anders becuase his actions were bad in your opinion see i can play in that logic as well...

Dislike or like don't matter (or perhaps it does in certain way) here killing companion because he is dangerous to you or simple don't agree with his/her actions is natural thing you did that as well as you said with anders.Simple peoples have different views on companions or characters and see them as dangerous to their goals/ideology or simple disagree with them. 

 

Anders killed countless innocents for his own twisted view of justice, kicked off a war, it was an act of terrorism, find it difficult to defend actions like that myself. He made life so much more difficult for his fellow mages as a result. If people disliked em then, they hated em even more now because of what he did. Now if he blew up a Circle I would have applauded him, I'm quiet sympathetic to the mages cause but he went too far with what he did. Anders took many innocent lives with him, it's not the same thing as killing one companion cos lol I don't like him/her.

[BobZilla84]

Anders killed countless innocents for his own twisted view of justice, kicked off a war, it was an act of terrorism, find it difficult to defend actions like that myself. He made life so much more difficult for his fellow mages as a result. If people disliked em then, they hated em even more now because of what he did. Now if he blew up a Circle I would have applauded him, I'm quiet sympathetic to the mages cause but he went too far with what he did. Anders took many innocent lives with him, it's not the same thing as killing one companion cos lol I don't like him/her.

This for me as well and I liked him better in Awakening DA2 Anders was annoying and they essentially ruined one of my favorite characters for his character development "Justice".

 

So Murder Knife time

[TheKomandorShepard]

Anders killed countless innocents for his own twisted view of justice, kicked off a war, it was an act of terrorism, find it difficult to defend actions like that myself. He made life so much more difficult for his fellow mages as a result. If people disliked em then, they hated em even more now because of what he did. Now if he blew up a Circle I would have applauded him, I'm quiet sympathetic to the mages cause but he went too far with what he did. Anders took many innocent lives with him, it's not the same thing as killing one companion cos lol I don't like him/her.

That is your reasoning to kill him not everyone agree with you and how you see things as you may disagree with others how they feel about character but others may disagree with you that doesn't mean you shouldn't have option to kill or in another way remove character that is dangerous to , you don't trust , or you don't agree with.As i said it isn't simple about lol i don't like him it is about reasons i kill other characters in some pt and i don't like same characters in others for reasons.  

 

right? I never get it all this murderous desires people have I mean we have all sorts of enemies and they want to kill companions just because they may have some different opinions (like Wynne in DA:O which heartless bastart would kill her?, or Merril in DA2?)
sure if someone kills innocents (like Anders) its understandable but wanting to kill someone just because they have other believes is ridiculous

Some people on this forum really want to satisfy their homicidal fantasies

 

But no wait then they will say "its an RPG why can't we kill everyone, Bioware sucks"

 

Wynne an abomnation and merril dangerous blood mage hefty reasons to kill them if you are pro-templar or even just follow rule better safe than sorry. 

[Karlone123]

If companions die, I would definitely reload the save.  I don't know about long-term choices but I would take note and not repeat in another playthrough.  I like all the companions from what have been revealed.  If they happened to die in game, I would find that sad enough for me to at the very least reload and try to save them. 

 

I am going to try to not reload if I make a bad decision, that results in a major loss to the Inquisition or if a companion (especially a favoured companion) does actually die during the game. It can add a more personal feeling to the game on a first playthrough.

[Ferretinabun]

Why do people desire to kill off as many companions as they can, what's the logic? Don't have enough enemies to kill in this game or something, gotcha be edgy, don't care about advancing the plot? Want to play all by yourself, I don't need other characters, ridiculous.

 

Wanting companions to be killable is not the same as wanting to kill them.

 

I liked ME2's final mission so much because your choices had real weight for the lives of your companions. The idea that you can mess up and then people die adds a lot of gravitas to your decisions. Getting everyone through the game in one piece is actually an achievement rather than a given.

[Ferretinabun]

Also, if this does turn out to be the case, no, I wouldn't reload. Gotta live with those choices! But then again, I'm the sort of player that enjoys The Walking Dead.

[BloodKaiden]

Also, if this does turn out to be the case, no, I wouldn't reload. Gotta live with those choices! But then again, I'm the sort of player that enjoys The Walking Dead.

11 days to go friend!

[Dasaed]

 

I know Bioware wouldn't spoil this in a gameplay video at E3, but is it just me or is the body that the demons throw at Leliana to intimidate her Sera, at 13:28? Outfit and hair are so similar and she did just go outside to face the demons.

 

 

The Iron Bull went outside with her, but didn't come back. What do you suppose happened to him?

[Ferretinabun]

11 days to go friend!

Is this a reference to the show?

 

I haven't actually seen it. but the game is really making me want to. 

[BloodKaiden]

Is this a reference to the show?
 
I haven't actually seen it. but the game is really making me want to. 

Yup! TWD Season 5 starts Oct 12th! 1-4 is on Netflix.

[TheKomandorShepard]

--> appearing in one game as a companion, and the other only minor appearance and now she is an advisor

--> dragon age is about single characters

yeah right..

What kind of dumb logic is that? She isn't forced upon anyone

The writers want to tell a story she is part of that just because its an RPG doesn't mean you should be able to kill everyone (they shouldn't even have given us that option in Origins)

 and thats what makes the characters interesting that they have different views and opinions on certain matters and until they don't do anything crazy (like Anders) there's no legitimate reason to kill them for it

so basically you just want companions that agree with you on everything?

Ok lets start again...

She was companion in first game , got own dlc (and it isn't minor appearance as she was protagonist in her dlc)  , had 3 appearances in da 2 (most of all companions save for anders for daa who was companion in da 2) , was in 2 books as well had few appearances in books , and now she is major character in 3 third  game.As far pretty much she is character that had most appearances in da universe.

 

Rly because devs pretty said otherwise that dragon age isn't about single character only about whole world so when they fail in that i guess you are then one of devs but well i guess you just try again desperately to prove that im wrong...

 

She isn't forced onto me so i can remove them from my pt then if she isn't forced onto me? No well i guess she is...

regardless if they want or not they force her on players and no it shouldn't as i said because it is dumb to held peoples on you side that have conflicting goals or ideals i rly hope i don't need tell why...

 

Yes and no I want characters to have own opinion but simple i don't want them in my party because they are danger to me and my goals and by that i don't want forced characters onto me if they force characters onto me made them neutral so as well pro-mage and pro-templar or pro-whatever pc could deal with them and trust them don't give me forced pro-mages if im anti-mage , pro-templars if im anti-templar , pro-chantry characters if im anti-mage well in fact give me such characters but don't force them on me.     

[frylock23]

I don't understand the desire to kill characters, either, unless they pull an Anders and do something that deserves killing.

 

But generally getting a companion killed means I have to actively make some decision that is in some way detrimental in the game at large which means I'm not just getting someone killed on purpose but could be setting off a whole slew of negative consequences. I mean, it's not often we simply have the option of leaving Sten in his cage or executing Loghain or Zevran. Usually, a companion death is something a bit more messy and risky, so I prefer to just hedge my bets and ignore them when I simply don't like them.

 

I let Liara stew in her room in ME1, and I ignored Oghren for the most part in DA:O. I let Isabela drink herself silly in DA2. I'll probably do the same with any companion I just don't like in this game.

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

 /facepalm @ If X character dies I will reload

Take responsibility for your actions and play with the grief. Loss and sorrow and the potential of losing companions is EXACTLY what makes the game realistic, emotional, surprising, exciting and great. I just dont get this mentality at all... if people want all companions to live - go play "Ponyland 4, the Rainbow adventures" and not a mature dark fantasy epic. This is clearly not the game for you.

If the fear of dead companions (and the actual possibility of it happening) werent there the entire premise of the game "Fighting a demon invasion against all odds" would be ruined and the storyline would be a cliche hollywood borefest of disastrous magnitude. 

[BobZilla84]

 

I don't understand the desire to kill characters, either, unless they pull an Anders and do something that deserves killing.

 

But generally getting a companion killed means I have to actively make some decision that is in some way detrimental in the game at large which means I'm not just getting someone killed on purpose but could be setting off a whole slew of negative consequences. I mean, it's not often we simply have the option of leaving Sten in his cage or executing Loghain or Zevran. Usually, a companion death is something a bit more messy and risky, so I prefer to just hedge my bets and ignore them when I simply don't like them.

 

I let Liara stew in her room in ME1, and I ignored Oghren for the most part in DA:O. I let Isabela drink herself silly in DA2. I'll probably do the same with any companion I just don't like in this game.

Fry I love your Profile pic thats one adorable dog now back on topic I think companion deaths should  choice based say I do choice A,B & D during a quest if my own stupidity costs me a companion then its my fault and I will continue on unless its Varric then its reload time for me.