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[Silversoda]

From what I heard, the quests that took the most amount of time do absolutely nothing in Mass Effect 2.  (Minerals, Prothean artifacts, Asari writings, Turian Emblems, and the Signs of Battle)

Can I just ask if this is true: Why? :| It doesn't make any sense to me as to why you would make those quests have no value. I mean, the least you could do is make things like the Asari Writings add more to your Codex. Or the Prothean artifacts, they could add more to your codex about the Protheans if they are 'Transcribed' at some point.

Maybe I'm just a little mad at the fact that my hard work might turn into a very little to no pay-off, I don't know.

[Marlina]

Yes, thank god. Those were just too tedious.

You really grinded all of those? Can I just ask if this is true: Why?

[Pastorbullfrog]

No, they do not carry over. However, your argument doesn't hold much water. If "carrying over" to the next game was the only attribute that made something worth doing, most of the game would fall into the "worthless" category. Those missions DID have merit - they gave you XP and money.

[Silversoda]

Why? I heard that all the choices and the such will be transferred into Mass Effect 2. So like a freak, I wanted the best I could get out of ME2. Anything that could give me an upper-hand would be amazing!

I figured maybe the minerals would mean something, or the prothean discs would lead to some super awesome amazing discover about protheans and there technology. Maybe the Asari writings would lead to something greater? Who was I too say?

So I had scoured every single planet, looking for every single artifact and mineral, hoping I might get something good out of it other then useless credits that I had not needed.

And then after all of this, I learn that they do not mean a damned thing. It's rather disappointing when you spent around 24 hours.

XP means nothing when you're level 60, and you get like max credits by the end of the game normally.

Modifié par Silversoda, 24 janvier 2010 - 07:17 .

[Unato]

just pretend it will carry over in ME3 and if it turns out it does then you can /lol at everyone who said it was useless

[Godzilla vs Xenu]

And you also get a starting bonus to the amount of money you have in ME2 based on how much you finished your game with, and doing all that exploring was one of the best ways to make a ton of cash in ME1. I maxed out what you can have.

[Sypher_Kyaeon]

From what I heard, they add bonuses like having a lot of money or your level. So you'll start with a bonus to your mineral resources.

[chaosapiant]

I still do all those quests on every playthrough. The planetary vistas are worth the extra driving around to experience, and I'm a completionist at heart.

[jidnis]

chaosapiant wrote...

I still do all those quests on every playthrough. The planetary vistas are worth the extra driving around to experience, and I'm a completionist at heart.

I understand the completionist part... but the planetary vistas were really nothing to sneeze at in my opinion

[Marlina]

I'm sorry to say, but you're playing the wrong kind of game then. ME is all about the STORY, if you want gameplay advantages for tedious stuff like that, go play WoW. :< I for one, don't think it's a good idea to have story-related stuff tied to ultra-boring stuff like that.

I mean, I've heard the arguments in favor of grinding, but it just doesn't make sense to me that things can't be fun without the process leading up to them being mind-numbingly boring.

[Dieover]

I did it for the gold and i just think those resource i gather were uses to auto repair my Mako when it got lift up back to Normandy o.0;

[Marlina]

jidnis wrote...

chaosapiant wrote...

I still do all those quests on every playthrough. The planetary vistas are worth the extra driving around to experience, and I'm a completionist at heart.

I understand the completionist part... but the planetary vistas were really nothing to sneeze at in my opinion

I think he meant that he enjoyed the vistas... Sneezing at something means not liking it.

[Godzilla vs Xenu]

Marlina wrote...
I'm sorry to say, but you're playing the wrong kind of game then. ME is all about the STORY, if you want gameplay advantages for tedious stuff like that, go play WoW.

If there is anything I really enjoy it's being told what game I should play and how to play it. That never gets old.

[Marlina]

Godzilla vs Xenu wrote...

Marlina wrote...
I'm sorry to say, but you're playing the wrong kind of game then. ME is all about the STORY, if you want gameplay advantages for tedious stuff like that, go play WoW.

If there is anything I really enjoy it's being told what game I should play and how to play it. That never gets old.

Well, if you like to shove your vegetables up your ass instead of eating them, don't be surprised when people recommend a different approach. It's just meant as helpful advice.

[Godzilla vs Xenu]

Marlina wrote...
Well, if you like to shove your vegetables up your ass instead of eating them, don't be surprised when people recommend a different approach. It's just meant as helpful advice.

Nice bait, but I'm not biting. Have a good evening.

[Silversoda]

Marlina wrote...

I'm sorry to say, but you're playing the wrong kind of game then. ME is all about the STORY, if you want gameplay advantages for tedious stuff like that, go play WoW.

Who said I don't like the story? The story is what drives me towards the game. That doesn't mean I don't like to complete the game to a full extent. And if that means to do pointless quests that have no meaning at all other than XP that you might not need and money that you won't really need, I'll do it.

 

The planetary vistas are worth the extra driving around to experience

As much as I loved the atmosphere and looks of the planets, I didn't find driving around them much fun. It all just seemed like randomly generated spikes in the ground. Regardless, I still drove around them.

Nice bait, but I'm not biting. Have a good evening.

I applaud you.

Modifié par Silversoda, 24 janvier 2010 - 07:34 .

[Marlina]

Godzilla vs Xenu wrote...

Marlina wrote...
Well, if you like to shove your vegetables up your ass instead of eating them, don't be surprised when people recommend a different approach. It's just meant as helpful advice.

Nice bait, but I'm not biting. Have a good evening.

Oh, you think I'm a troll, how novel! 

I'm merely giving the OP my opinion on the matter. Playing Mass Effect and completing every last quest only because you think you'll get gameplay rewards later on for them is just not what I think the series is all about. World of Warcraft, on the other hand, is founded upon this very principle. 

Let's take another example: Let's say you play Modern Warfare 2 multiplayer, and you complain about the depth of the RPG elements. Is it really that mean of someone to point out the simple fact that Modern Warfare 2 was not ever intended to focus much of the RPG side of things? Personally, I think not. 

[Marlina]

Silversoda wrote...

Who said I don't like the story? The story is what drives me towards the game. That doesn't mean I don't like to complete the game to a full extent. And if that means to do pointless quests that have no meaning at all other than XP that you might not need and money that you won't really need, I'll do it.

I never said you didn't like the story. I merely said that the focus is on the story, NOT the tedious little grinding side-quests. 

If you enjoy grinding for the sake of it, good for you. I just said why I didn't think it made sense to get major advantages in ME2 for them.

[wrexfan32hanalei]

mass effect and WoW are both RPGs though...

[Pastorbullfrog]

WoW is as much an RPG as Oregon Trail is a shooter.

[wrexfan32hanalei]

Pastorbullfrog wrote...

WoW is as much an RPG as Oregon Trail is a shooter.

omg, oregon trail was so awesome, bioware should be doing a remake of that.

[GnusmasTHX]

Rofl...



So spoiled by ME2, and BioWare's "importing innovation".



Was I the only one who reached Level 60, did all the quests and such because I actually wanted to play ME1?

[Silversoda]

Marlina wrote...

Silversoda wrote...

Who said I don't like the story? The story is what drives me towards the game. That doesn't mean I don't like to complete the game to a full extent. And if that means to do pointless quests that have no meaning at all other than XP that you might not need and money that you won't really need, I'll do it.

I just said why I didn't think it made sense to get major advantages in ME2 for them.

I never said I expected major advantages... but I did expect atleast minor advantages. Shouldn't they reward you for completing the game 100% if you did? They shouldn't let hours upon hours go into a firey pit of just extra credits and XP in the first game. I mean, christ! You found things that might very well help us understand more about the past.  (Such as, again, Prothean Discs.)

You found enough valuable minerals and elements to help the alliance plan and maintain their future operations... and you don't even get a damn well deserved thanks? Something just doesn't seem right to me.

Was I the only one who reached Level 60, did all the quests and such because I actually wanted to play ME1?

I reached level 60 to be the best I could be on Mass Effect and because the combat was fun. On the other-hand, I didn't complete the tedious quests like the GATHER ALL THESE ITEMS just to complete them. They were in no way enjoyable, but I completed them because I had some what expected some meaning in them.

Modifié par Silversoda, 24 janvier 2010 - 07:57 .

[Pastorbullfrog]

Silversoda wrote...

I never said I expected major advantages... but I did expect atleast minor advantages. Shouldn't they reward you for completing the game 100% if you did? They shouldn't let hours upon hours go into a firey pit of just extra credits and XP in the first game. I mean, christ! You found things that might very well help us understand more about the past.  (Such as, again, Prothean Discs.)

You found enough valuable minerals and elements to help the alliance plan and maintain their future operations... and you don't even get a damn well deserved thanks? Something just doesn't seem right to me.

So... you're complaining because the reward YOU would have wanted (advantages in the next game) isn't the reward you actually got (XP and cash), even though there was absolutely no logical reason to assume your desired outcome would be the case.  That about the size of it?

Do you also get pissed off when you go to the dentist and they don't give you a free yacht?

[ace1221]

while it is very unlikely, bioware has yet to release a complete list of what carries over from ME1. many reviews have stated that players that completed ME1 fully will understand more about plot events in ME2. therefore, there may be some plot event or side mission regarding the prothean data disks etc...