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Just My Moniker

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Even though I don't think it was very popular, I really liked the bare feet design of the elves in DA2. 

 

What I would hope for (Cuz I know alot of people don't like it  :rolleyes: ) Would be for the city elves to wear shoes, the Dalish to go bare-foot, and the player character to be able to decide which they'd like to wear. To me that seems to satiate everybody.

 

Anybody else here feel the same way?



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I agree with this idea. Since i often dont wear shoes when i play a elf( one with nature trope)

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Are boots still a separate armour piece? You could just remove them. Would hinder stats a bit, but...

 

I wasn't terribly fond of the whole concept, but each to their own.



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Well yeah you could remove the boots, but it wouldn't fit the rest of the armor aesthetically then.

 

So it would be more of a kind of greaves I'm hoping for, like this 

 

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^_^



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Boots and shoes are terrbily noisy, moccasins notwithstanding. So +1 for this :)



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So long as my PC gets the option to wear shoes I don't mind.



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Would be great for RPing a Dalish Inquisitor.  I approve.   ;)



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I want a no shoes armor option. My Inquisitor's pixel feet deserve to be freeeeee.



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No. I'm glad it's gone. I thought that was a horrible idea, awkwardly implemented, and I never want to see it again.

 

EDIT: Sorry to be so blunt. If you want the option to remove your boots and walk around barefoot, more power to you. I do not want to see barefoot elves across the board, and especially not for city elves, as there's no practical or cultural reason for them to do it. Making all elves barefoot regardless of their nationality or cultural upbringing that seems to imply that elves are genetically predisposed to going around barefoot, which kind of seems to ruin the (seeming) message that elves are just people like everyone else.

 

I can understand if a few elves are shoe-less if it really fits their personality, situation, and/or rest of the outfit (like a kitchen maid wearing a plain dress being barefoot because she's just doing work in the cobblestone kitchen all day, or an elven commoner you encounter in his/her own home), but I did not like the "Oh, they're elves. Therefore they're barefoot."



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Yeah the city-elves not wearing shoes was pretty stupid.

 

Hmm...I don't think it was that  BioWare was trying to say that elves were genetically-predisposed to it, but more like a cultural thing. (Thus furthering the fact that the city-elves should have been conformed to human culture by now and be wearing shoes lol xD )

 

I could see, like youre saying, certain people living in the city without shoes. Like Dalish elves who have come to live in the city, like Merrill and Feynriel's mother.



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Shoes exist for a reason, so I don't really see why elves wouldn't wear them.

Unless they have more in common with Hobbits than one might think.



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i am, it made the Elves very unique looking in contrast to the other races, however i'd go one further and say it's unique to Dalish Elves, as they are least likely to mimic other cultures in terms of foot apparel. Also i'd like to see the return of the foot strap part of the armor just so that we're clear they aren't completely barefoot, you can see it on fenris and merril's feet sometimes when they look to be checking their heels or knocking off dirt.



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i am, it made the Elves very unique looking in contrast to the other races, however i'd go one further and say it's unique to Dalish Elves, as they are least likely to mimic other cultures in terms of foot apparel. Also i'd like to see the return of the foot strap part of the armor just so that we're clear they aren't completely barefoot, you can see it on fenris and merril's feet sometimes when they look to be checking their heels or knocking off dirt.

I thought I was the only person who ever saw the foot strap XD

 

I loved the design the elves had going in DA2. Was disappointed that my Hawkes couldn't wear it  :(

Hope that BioWare includes it in DAI  :D

(^ Not saying that there shouldn't be an option for people who want to wear shoes  ;) )

 

EDIT: And yeah, I think it should be something unique to the Dalish as well  :)



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Yeah the city-elves not wearing shoes was pretty stupid.

 

Hmm...I don't think it was that  BioWare was trying to say that elves were genetically-predisposed to it, but more like a cultural thing. (Thus furthering the fact that the city-elves should have been conformed to human culture by now and be wearing shoes lol xD )

 

I could see, like youre saying, certain people living in the city without shoes. Like Dalish elves who have come to live in the city, like Merrill and Feynriel's mother.

 

True... but then that creates the problem that there is even less reason for the Dalish to be barefoot than city elves.

 

In fact, there's no practical reason whatsoever for Dalish to go around barefoot in the wild, since the wilderness is filled with things no one would want to step on without shoes. Sharp rocks, sticks, twigs, pine needles, dung, mud, hot sand in the desert, ice in winter, thorned plants, poisonous snakes and insects, clawed and toothy little animals, etc. Unless elves have naturally really thick, padded soles like hobbits, there's no reason.

 

Not to mention the Dalish culture has warriors. Seeing heavily armored warriors standing guard in camp, heavily armored everywhere except for their feet randomly sticking out, made me go "WTF?!" I just kept looking at those bare feet thinking, "That would be a really easy target." Think about it. In battle I could stomp on their bare foot with my boot and possibly break it, fire at it with an arrow, stab it with a sword, or even swing down and cut it off with a blade, thus leaving them limping, falling over, or dying of blood loss.

 

I just don't think bare feet are a good aesthetic for elves on the whole. Again, I think it could work with maybe the occasional city elf if they have a job that requires them to be inside and away from polite human company all day (like the kitchen or scullery), or it's a house wife who rarely/never leaves her house. But elves who work outside, or in a posh human home, or Dalish who have to travel in the wilderness and/or be armored for battle? Nooo...



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Sandals might be a fair compromise... but maybe the Dalish hunters would still wear boots?



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True... but then that creates the problem that there is even less reason for the Dalish to be barefoot than city elves.

 

In fact, there's no practical reason whatsoever for Dalish to go around barefoot in the wild, since the wilderness is filled with things no one would want to step on without shoes. Sharp rocks, sticks, twigs, pine needles, dung, mud, hot sand in the desert, ice in winter, thorned plants, poisonous snakes and insects, clawed and toothy little animals, etc. Unless elves have naturally really thick, padded soles like hobbits, there's no reason.

 

Not to mention the Dalish culture has warriors. Seeing heavily armored warriors standing guard in camp, heavily armored everywhere except for their feet randomly sticking out, made me go "WTF?!" I just kept looking at those bare feet thinking, "That would be a really easy target." Think about it. In battle I could stomp on their bare foot with my boot and possibly break it, fire at it with an arrow, stab it with a sword, or even swing down and cut it off with a blade, thus leaving them limping, falling over, or dying of blood loss.

 

I just don't think bare feet are a good aesthetic for elves on the whole. Again, I think it could work with maybe the occasional city elf if they have a job that requires them to be inside and away from polite human company all day (like the kitchen or scullery), or it's a house wife who rarely/never leaves her house. But elves who work outside, or in a posh human home, or Dalish who have to travel in the wilderness and/or be armored for battle? Nooo...

The Dalish camp guards didn't wear helmets either, something that could be seen as a distinct disadvantage :P

 

I guess it's just people have different tastes. I respect your opinion  :)



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Sandals might be a fair compromise... but maybe the Dalish hunters would still wear boots?

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^ I wouldn't mind some sandals like this  :D

 

(Would still want the option for barefoot however  :whistle: )



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^ I wouldn't mind some sandals like this  :D

 

(Would still want the option for barefoot however  :whistle: )

That works for me... it's certainly more elegant than what I had in mind (flip flops).  Civilians probably don't need to be wearing Ironbark boots just to walk around the camp, after all.  Speaking of which, I hope that Ironbark is one of the crafting materials in DA:I... and hopefully it's in a high Tier like it is in the lore...



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Why wouldn't you want to step on mud? as for hot sand, the Dalish tended to wander to habitable places, not Harsh, that's why they don't migrate to the frostback mountains, outside of swamps, forest, and open plains, i don't think they'd normally visit any place were hunting (their primary source of food) would be scares. Who's to say Elves have sensitive feet like humans, mayhaps they're sturdier when it comes to their foot padding. Also Elves have really good eyesight, despite Merrill being clumsy,they are suggested to have something similar to night-vision or low light vision, they'd see minute details about their natural surroundings long before they would cause a problem, like most animals. Just like most animals don't step in poo, i'd assume most Dalish Elves who are particularly close to and understand how to best live in the wild, would smell or see poo long before they step in it....and now jokes about How far out into the Woods a Dalish Elf most go to poop without the others smelling it plagues my mind.

 

Merrill: By the Dread Wolf! Mahariel I smell your excrement from here, next time go further out, like half a days journey. 

 

Mahariel: (hangs head in shame)

 

Tamlen: Hahaha! Mahariel has recently had a taste of Shemlan cuisine I see, it may taste good going down, but like the Shem's it always causes quite the stink later. hahahah!



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Why wouldn't you want to step on mud? as for hot sand, the Dalish tended to wander to habitable places, not Harsh, that's why they don't migrate to the frostback mountains, outside of swamps, forest, and open plains, i don't think they'd normally visit any place were hunting (their primary source of food) would be scares. Who's to say Elves have sensitive feet like humans, mayhaps they're sturdier when it comes to their foot padding. Also Elves have really good eyesight, despite Merrill being clumsy,they are suggested to have something similar to night-vision or low light vision, they'd see minute details about their natural surroundings long before they would cause a problem, like most animals. Just like most animals don't step in poo, i'd assume most Dalish Elves who are particularly close to and understand how to best live in the wild, would smell or see poo long before they step in it....and now jokes about How far out into the Woods a Dalish Elf most go to poop without the others smelling it plagues my mind.

 

Merrill: By the Dread Wolf! Mahariel I smell your excrement from here, next time go further out, like half a days journey. 

 

Mahariel: (hangs head in shame)

 

Tamlen: Hahaha! Mahariel has recently had a taste of Shemlan cuisine I see, it may taste good going down, but like the Shem's it always causes quite the stink later. hahahah!

Doesn't stop Merrill from mentioning that she stepped in something when you click on her sometimes.

I'd like them to at least clarify that elves have tougher feet in-game before the shoe-less outfits return.



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This sandals remain me of Toph's Sandals in Avatar season 3 lol



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I personaly would like it if one could change it as one desires. Like the helm option in DA2, that if you don't like the helmet (which, as a mage, I never did), then you can have it as invicible. If they do something simular for elves only, then it would be perfect.  :P

 

If not though...it would depend on the armour in question. Some armour pieces will fit without shoes (like, the robes of a keeper), while others should have shoes (like, the Inquisitors "default armour", that most likely would be made by humans).



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Doesn't stop Merrill from mentioning that she stepped in something when you click on her sometimes.

I'd like them to at least clarify that elves have tougher feet in-game before the shoe-less outfits return.

Merrill is generally in Kirkwall though when that happens, that's where the game is mostly done, her saying that is more evident that the cities are filthier than the Wilds and unnatural to her. Her description of the Alienage when she first gets there, and after shes gotten settled in give this impression, she also says as much when talking to Master Ilen after you've recruited her and returned to the camp in act 2 i think.



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Spoiler

 

Holy S**t!  :o Solas is rockin' toeless sock-shoes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please dear God let this be an option for the Inquisitor!  :D  :D  :D



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That's what im talking about, those look comfy enough and they let his toes breathe.