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[Zarro-Morningstar]

Careful, there are some templar supporters who'll oppose this stance. I can think of one or two off the top of my head will see it as something not to be even considered. The one I'm thinking of advocates complete and total genocide, and won't even consider anything less. 

They may have their opinion, and as a result I may have my own. Thanks for the heads up though, although I hope no one will get too...outraged*If someone does get outraged then that is a tad disappointing*. Anyway, I am really looking forward to see how the Mage/Templar conflict will come to an end in DA:I, I know I am going to make the choices to bring peace to both sides...if that is possible XD!

[raging_monkey]

Careful, there are some templar supporters who'll oppose this stance. I can think of one or two off the top of my head will see it as something not to be even considered. The one I'm thinking of advocates complete and total genocide, and won't even consider anything less.

he is thall shalt not speak of..

[dragonflight288]

he is thall shalt not speak of..

 

True, so I shall speak of something else.

 

Mm...sandwiches. If I were a mage I could use a fire spell to light a stove or campfire without ever needing to worry about flint & tinder. 

 

I could really go for a Thedas BLT, the bacon being made of Nug. I'm curious about the flavor of Nug. Heck, the dwarves made a paragon from someone who discovered several ways to cook nug, including Nug pancakes. 

[Zarro-Morningstar]

I am glad that the term "genocide" is being tossed around, because that's what could happen and does happen when there is an Annulment. Now, there are times when an Annulment is needed but to want a group of people to completely eliminated...that is a little too extreme for me. As is the idea of complete and utter freedom. 

[Zarro-Morningstar]

he is thall shalt not speak of..

I take it there were quite a few arguments brought on by this person?

[dragonflight288]

I take it there were quite a few arguments brought on by this person?

 

Ohhhh yes. 

 

Quite a few people have put him on their ignore list because he....well, I don't want to talk about it and draw attention, so I'll tell you in a PM. 

[raging_monkey]

I take it there were quite a few arguments brought on by this person?

if it who i think it is its better i forget they are a bit of a pill lol

[Zarro-Morningstar]

Ohhhh yes. 

 

Quite a few people have put him on their ignore list because he....well, I don't want to talk about it and draw attention, so I'll tell you in a PM. 

Okay cool.

 

if it who i think it is its better i forget they are a bit of a pill lol

I am glad that I was not looking into this thread at that time, lol.

[Zarro-Morningstar]

I swear this double posting thing must be stopped, just like Varric's "Hard in Hightown Siege Harder" 

[TheJediSaint]

To be fair, just about every Dragon Age faction has a BSNer or two who advocates genocide.

[Zarro-Morningstar]

To be fair, just about every Dragon Age faction has a BSNer or two who advocates genocide.

Mmhm, a sad reality in my opinion. I saw some pretty heated arguments throughout a few threads most of which were rather comical; be that through the logic the person or people had/held, or through their childish name calling.

[Zarro-Morningstar]

To be fair, just about every Dragon Age faction has a BSNer or two who advocates genocide.

Mmhm, a sad reality in my opinion. I saw some pretty heated arguments throughout a few threads most of which were rather comical; be that through the logic the person or people had/held, or through their childish name calling.

[TheJediSaint]

Mmhm, a sad reality in my opinion. I saw some pretty heated arguments throughout a few threads most of which were rather comical; be that through the logic the person or people had/held, or through their childish name calling.

Most of "debates" are really proxie fights between individual posters using their Chosen People as camouflage.

[Zarro-Morningstar]

Most of "debates" are really proxie fights between individual posters using their Chosen People as camouflage.

I've yet to get into any "fights" or "heated debates", so I suppose I am lucky in that regard. I would like to keep it that way 

 

So what do you guys think of the Red Templars, do you guys support them or no?

[Zarro-Morningstar]

Most of "debates" are really proxie fights between individual posters using their Chosen People as camouflage.

I've yet to get into any "fights" or "heated debates", so I suppose I am lucky in that regard. I would like to keep it that way 

 

So what do you guys think of the Red Templars, do you guys support them or no?

[raging_monkey]

Is it me or is the bsn feeling off cause everything is slow and double posting

[TheJediSaint]

I've yet to get into any "fights" or "heated debates", so I suppose I am lucky in that regard. I would like to keep it that way 

 

So what do you guys think of the Red Templars, do you guys support them or no?

From what I've seen of the Red Templars, no.  The last thing the Templars need to be is more extreme.

[Zarro-Morningstar]

From what I've seen of the Red Templars, no.  The last thing the Templars need to be is more extreme.

Hmm I just hope that we are able to converse with some of them before getting our skulls crushed...or more like the RT attempts to crush our skulls and fails.

Is it me or is the bsn feeling off cause everything is slow and double posting

BSN is indeed feeling "off", it has been like that for a few days....at least for me.

[Zarro-Morningstar]

The proof is in the pudding, I hope the Double Posting stops eventually. 

[raging_monkey]

The proof is in the pudding, I hope the Double Posting stops eventually.

i just want the lag to stop... whats going on here

OT: how get RL i doubt they had enough off merideth... and are they eating her

[TheJediSaint]

The forum has been acting slow.  Maybe there's been an increase of traffic with the game so close to release?

[dragonflight288]

I've yet to get into any "fights" or "heated debates", so I suppose I am lucky in that regard. I would like to keep it that way 

 

So what do you guys think of the Red Templars, do you guys support them or no?

 

I oppose the Red Templars entirely. 

 

Templars have sworn an oath to protect the world from mages, but also protect mages from the world. The Red templars who left the Chantry have forgotten part of their duty, and now seek to destroy mages. 

 

Not to mention that Red Lyrium is guaranteed to make you lose your mind faster than regular lyrium. 

[EmperorSahlertz]

PFFFFFFFFFT

 

Yes, all the corruption and insubordination certainly demonstrates the level of "professionalism" at the Gallows.

All that corruption and insubordination exhibited by ONE member of the Order, until Act III which is what I said.

[dragonflight288]

All that corruption and insubordination exhibited by ONE member of the Order, until Act III which is what I said.

 

More than one. 

 

Kerras, Alrik, Metten, everyone who was under them that didn't report their abuse to Cullen or Meredith, two of whom I mentioned are running ramapant in Acts 1 and 2, unless Kerras dies by Hawke's hand in Act 1. 

 

Also, why was Emerick, a decent templar who was genuinely trying to do his job and conduct an investigation into practically confirmed blood magic, with the evidence gathered by Hawke, human remains, demons summoned, a man fleeing the scene, not only ignored by his superiors, but he was actually limited in his investigation by them, and received no help from the Guard or the templars and eventually told to stand down, cease and desist, because he convinced some guards to raid the manor of a noble, who turned out to be a blood mage, and had a connection to Quentin as his former apprentice?

 

And Cullen's own codex says he wasn't promoted on merit, he was promoted to Knight-Captain because his own views on mages (while freshly traumatized from Ferelden) matched Meredith's own. 

 

Add in History of Kirkwall Chapter 4, with the Chantry ordering the templars to interfere with Kirkwall politics because the Viscount was making things hard for Orlais, and it was Elthina who tried and sentenced the Viscount, and you have a long history of corruption within the templars. Not just in abuse of mages, but overall corruption, corrupt in its grabs for power, corrupt in promoting the wrong people for the wrong reasons, corrupt in limiting the real work by templars who are actually trying to do their job, and then, in Act 3, corrupt in seizing power in the city and a refusal to give it up over the course of three years. 

[MisterJB]

I am, because that's not what happened.

 

It's true, that Fiona disregarded the purpose of the legal gathering and put another agenda on the table, which she had the legal right to do as the Grand Enchanter, and that stirred up some templars. But Lambert interrupted the meeting, not because of that, but because he said he was declaring the gathering no longer valid because Pharamond had been murdered and he was taking Rhys into custody. Fiona responded that they had the legal right given by the Divine to be there, and Lambert responded saying that Divine's authority no longer mattered, then ordered the attack. 

 

Yes, Fiona didn't help matters, yes some templars were provoked, but in any court of law, in any country I can think of, the person who throws the first punch is always the one who starts the fight. Words, and being provoked, never are justifiable reasons to throw the first punch in the courtroom, and is usually thrown out.

 

Lambert and the templars launched the attack and struck the first blow, regardless of what Fiona or the mages said, and that means they started the battle. 

What MWZ said was that there wouldn't have been a fight without Fiona which is true. Even if we accept the Templars initiated physical hostilities, had there been a more reasonable and patient Grand Enchanter there, the viollence might have been avoided at all.

 

Besides, I question her legal right to put another agenda on the table. At least, where I live, you have to announce to everyone interested that you will be doing so three days prior to the meeting or they'll be invallid.