Maybe the more moderate templars can be dealt with. I hope so, I hated how shoehorned the templars became as the bad guys. The only good ones seemed to be "let's defy orders and side with mages unconditionally"
I'd like to see Evangeline du Brassard and like minded good folk
I wish folks would stop calling Evangeline a Templar.
She's a traitor.
Why? Because she decided to follow the Divine instead of Lambert? I don't consider that treachery.
Why? Because she decided to follow the Divine instead of Lambert? I don't consider that treachery.
She joined the mages in rebellion.
She abandoned her comrades and the Order along with the Chantry.
The Templars are the ones who abandoned the Chantry.
She joined the mages in rebellion.
She abandoned her comrades and the Order along with the Chantry.
She did abandon the Order that's true but that's because she considered their actions to be tyrannical. How did she abandon the Chantry? She was pretty much doing what the Divine wanted.
The Templars are the ones who abandoned the Chantry.
Even worse, Lambert clearly states he was trying to control the Chantry by forcing the election of a Divine who would be more "agreeable" to the Templars - more like puppet Divine.
The Templars are the ones who abandoned the Chantry.
They sure look frightfully pretty thoughBut surely they had heard of Meredith by that point? Wouldn't they at least be extremely wary of the stuff? Hell, who the *expletive* thought it'd be a good idea to let their comrades turn into freaking behemoths?
Only after the Order was betrayed by the Chantry and Divine.
When they captured the mages at the conclave the templars betrayed the chantry. especially when the conclave made no vote whatsoever. and even if the mages decided for separation its not for the templars to decide such things. The lunatics should have waited for diplomacy to run its course.
When they captured the mages at the conclave the templars betrayed the chantry. especially when the conclave made no vote whatsoever. and even if the mages decided for separation its not for the templars to decide such things. The lunatics should have waited for diplomacy to run its course.
While it might've reached The same outcome, The fight started more because of The mages Not wanting to give Rhys and templars wanting to take Rhys, because of Adrian's scheme.
Adrians scheme is simply proves how incompetent the templars are. Lambert had all the tact of an elephant and played right into Adrian little scheme.
If anything this only proves that the current templar is simply not worth maintaining. the thing is that i endorse the circle system but i not with idiots like the templars.
the fact is the inquisition is basically correcting the mistakes of the chantry and templar order. they knew that their was large amount of demons beyond the veil and they did completely nothing to prevent it or make preparations for it. then your simply asking for trouble.
And what we have seen from the red templars it seems te templar order is even more susceptible to corruption then the mages.
Lamber had every right to take Rhys into custody. Granted, I wouldn't have acted in The same way he did, but when you found a weapon full of blood in someone's Room, and there was a murder, you do take the suspect into custody.Adrians scheme is simply proves how incompetent the templars are. Lambert had all the tact of an elephant and played right into Adrian little scheme.
If anything this only proves that the current templar is simply not worth maintaining. the thing is that i endorse the circle system but i not with idiots like the templars.
the fact is the inquisition is basically correcting the mistakes of the chantry and templar order. they knew that their was large amount of demons beyond the veil and they did completely nothing to prevent it or make preparations for it. then your simply asking for trouble.
And what we have seen from the red templars it seems te templar order is even more susceptible to corruption then the mages.
I wish folks would stop calling Evangeline a Templar.
She's a traitor.
What do you call a person that possesses templar skills but is not a part of the templar order?
People would probably address them by their actual profession. For someone like Hawke they were still considered a mercenary/champion, and Grey Warden for the Warden.What do you call a person that possesses templar skills but is not a part of the templar order?
When they captured the mages at the conclave the templars betrayed the chantry. especially when the conclave made no vote whatsoever. and even if the mages decided for separation its not for the templars to decide such things. The lunatics should have waited for diplomacy to run its course.
No kidding. Had the mages voted to separate from the Chantry, the commoners and nobles would have come begging to let the templars take action.
And what we have seen from the red templars it seems te templar order is even more susceptible to corruption then the mages.
I wouldn't say that. How many evil mages -blood or otherwise- have we encountered over the course of the last two games? As opposed to how many evil templars?
Lamber had every right to take Rhys into custody. Granted, I wouldn't have acted in The same way he did, but when you found a weapon full of blood in someone's Room, and there was a murder, you do take the suspect into custody.
To prevent or preparate for what? A Breach? In thousands of years nobody thoughts of preventing this, mages included. Saying that the templars and The Chantry has faults for The Breach is ridicolous, expecially becuase someone voluntary ripped The Veil and created The Breach. It isn't a natural event.
We don't have a clue on how The red templars are formed, or if a part is manipulated. Also there mages as well working for The Elder one and that might've caused The Breach (venatori).
He had every right how he handled the situation however leaves much to be desired for. Also for breach their is no excuse. if your live alongside the waterline you build dykes or in place with tornado's you build shelters. if you know their is an army of demons just behind a thin strip of magical protection then you better make it your business. if they didnt think about it for thousand years they have no right managing magic.
However the red templars are formed, one thing is clear. templars are corruptible combine this with previous incompetence i rather see them destroyed and the mages put under a new better organised management
No kidding. Had the mages voted to separate from the Chantry, the commoners and nobles would have come begging to let the templars take action.
What the commoners think is not relevant. they are commoners and hold no power and if the chantry says stfu. they will stfu. The nobles on the other hand are no ignorant commoner. some will try to lock the mages back up in the circles but for others it would be a good way to put the mages under firm control of the state. others will know the tevinters will be breathing down their necks if all mages suddenly perish and oppose the templars. Other may blame the chantry and templars for the mess.
He had every right how he handled the situation however leaves much to be desired for. Also for breach their is no excuse. if your live alongside the waterline you build dykes or in place with tornado's you build shelters. if you know their is an army of demons just behind a thin strip of magical protection then you better make it your business. if they didnt think about it for thousand years they have no right managing magic.
However the red templars are formed, one thing is clear. templars are corruptible combine this with previous incompetence i rather see them destroyed and the mages put under a new better organised management
You only build dykes and shelter if there is an actual chance of floods or tornados.... For several MILLENIA nothing like the breach has ever happened. It wasn't even thought possible. There was no way that anyone could have prepared for it. And there is no "army" of demons. The demons aren't organized and structured, they just rampage through the breach since now they have the oppertunity.
And newflash: The MAGES didn't prepare for anything like this either, so why aren't you being all "Vindictive Captain Hindsight" about them? Oh right, right, because of your bias, that's right...
What Emperor said. Again, The Breach isn't a natural event. It's Something someone did. It probably can't happen naturally. It's ridicolous to expect someone to prepare for something they didn't think it can happen (and in this case, Something it shouldn't happen naturally).He had every right how he handled the situation however leaves much to be desired for. Also for breach their is no excuse. if your live alongside the waterline you build dykes or in place with tornado's you build shelters. if you know their is an army of demons just behind a thin strip of magical protection then you better make it your business. if they didnt think about it for thousand years they have no right managing magic.
However the red templars are formed, one thing is clear. templars are corruptible combine this with previous incompetence i rather see them destroyed and the mages put under a new better organised management
You only build dykes and shelter if there is an actual chance of floods or tornados.... For several MILLENIA nothing like the breach has ever happened. It wasn't even thought possible. There was no way that anyone could have prepared for it. And there is no "army" of demons. The demons aren't organized and structured, they just rampage through the breach since now they have the oppertunity.
And newflash: The MAGES didn't prepare for anything like this either, so why aren't you being all "Vindictive Captain Hindsight" about them? Oh right, right, because of your bias, that's right...
I live in the netherlands and after 1953 flood we said **** this **** and make sure nothing was left to chance. And nothing like the breach happened? Dude the circle of magi quest and wardens keep in DAO was basically the miniature version of what happened in DAI. yet not once people said : hey lets figure out how that veil works and we can do to keep it shut.
And mages where restricted what they where allowed to research.
What Emperor said. Again, The Breach isn't a natural event. It's Something someone did. It probably can't happen naturally. It's ridicolous to expect someone to prepare for something they didn't think it can happen (and in this case, Something it shouldn't happen naturally).
Also, NOBODY, thought about it. By your logic mages didn't think about it either, so everyone is at fault.
The fault of causing The Breach is on those who pulled this off, whoever they are.
What Emperor said. Again, The Breach isn't a natural event. It's Something someone did. It probably can't happen naturally. It's ridicolous to expect someone to prepare for something they didn't think it can happen (and in this case, Something it shouldn't happen naturally).
Also, NOBODY, thought about it. By your logic mages didn't think about it either, so everyone is at fault.
The fault of causing The Breach is on those who pulled this off, whoever they are.
The fact remains you know that demons wish to open up the fade then the chances are that as soon as they cross they may pull something like the breach. humanmade or demon made is irrelevant. you know a group have the knowledge ,power and power to pull this of. perhaps another group entered the fray.
Simply put the chantry and the templars knew and didnt do anything.
I live in the netherlands and after 1953 flood we said **** this **** and make sure nothing was left to chance. And nothing like the breach happened? Dude the circle of magi quest and wardens keep in DAO was basically the miniature version of what happened in DAI. yet not once people said : hey lets figure out how that veil works and we can do to keep it shut.
And mages where restricted what they where allowed to research.
No... What happened in Kinloch Hold is NOTHING like the Breach. And Netherlands does have a high chance of flood, especially considering that most of the country lies below the sea's surface, hence the dykes. What you are asking on the other hand is for something like Saudi Arabia to build dykes EVERYWHERE to avoid floods.
Secondly you presume that something could have been done in the first place. The mages of Thedas has been studying the veil and the Fade for centuries, and they havn't come up with anything, so there is NOTHING to suggest that the Templars could've done anyhting. And you are still laying the blame on the Templars, when you actually, if you really persist in this ludicrous demand, should be blaming the mages for not having developed methods of prevention.
No... What happened in Kinloch Hold is NOTHING like the Breach. And Netherlands does have a high chance of flood, especially considering that most of the country lies below the sea's surface, hence the dykes. What you are asking on the other hand is for something like Saudi Arabia to build dykes EVERYWHERE to avoid floods.
Secondly you presume that something could have been done in the first place. The mages of Thedas has been studying the veil and the Fade for centuries, and they havn't come up with anything, so there is NOTHING to suggest that the Templars could've done anyhting. And you are still laying the blame on the Templars, when you actually, if you really persist in this ludicrous demand, should be blaming the mages for not having developed methods of prevention.
You really have to explain how kinloch hold is not like the breach. And if you restricting magic research because of your own bias to magic then the mages are not to blame.
The fact remains you know that demons wish to open up the fade then the chances are that as soon as they cross they may pull something like the breach. humanmade or demon made is irrelevant. you know a group have the knowledge ,power and power to pull this of. perhaps another group entered the fray.
Simply put the chantry and the templars knew and didnt do anything.
You can't keep The Veil shut. It's impossible. And again, it's not a natural event. Demons can't force it to open from The Fade, so they aren't The one doing it (and in the case they would, you Couldn't stop them).I live in the netherlands and after 1953 flood we said **** this **** and make sure nothing was left to chance. And nothing like the breach happened? Dude the circle of magi quest and wardens keep in DAO was basically the miniature version of what happened in DAI. yet not once people said : hey lets figure out how that veil works and we can do to keep it shut.
And mages where restricted what they where allowed to research.
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