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[Giltspur]

I like console commands to be there, but I don't tend to use them unless it's to skip some grind I don't want to do.  For example, do x y times for z gold.  I will go "Oh wow that tedious and uninteresting.  Do console command for z gold.  And moving on."  Another thing I'll use console commands for is to skip inventory management that gets annoying.  You know my bags are full.  I just dump stuff on the ground and stop picking up vendor trash and then hack in an estimate of what the gold would be.  This is mostly something I've done in Bethesda games.  Never really used them in a DA game that I can recall. 

[Muspade]

...What's a console command? It sounds like heresy...

[Patchwork]

Usually I use console commands as a way around bugs but if DAI's limited everything combat is really bad then killallhostiles. 

[UniformGreyColor]

Possibly. I used the console to fiddle with approval/rivalry as necessary in DA2 because I didn't feel like metagaming to get what I wanted. (this was mostly an issue with rivaling Isabela, which is what I preferred to do) The approval system's different this time, so that might not be an issue.

 

I also gave myself experience for traps I didn't bother disarming because life's 2 short. I plan on playing a rogue this time, so again, this might be unnecessary now. Maybe, (hopefully) there aren't even traps! Not so much because they make the game difficult but because disarming them for experience is truly annoying.

 

Money's not normally much of an issue. I only really wanted the ability point books in the last two games.

 

 You know in Origins as soon as you hear the disarm you can continue doing whatever it is you wanted to do, like start walking away from the trap and it still disarms even though the animation would normally continue.

 

You guys do know that you can't sync your character if you have console enabled right? At least in DAO Ultimate from steam. That being said, sure I will use the console. Why not? After i have beaten the game a gazillion times its not like its a challenge. I do have one rule when using console though, I have to actually rely on myself to kill enemies and the only console command I do is giving myself gold because I can just make a bunch of potions if I really wanted to to get all the gold I would ever need or desire. But yeah, I recently had to disable it because my char wasn't syncing to BWSN. I even had this confirmed that this was the issue by starting a chat with technical support about my game not working. Funny enough, about 3 minutes before I was able to start chat (I had to wait for about 45 min) I solved the problem myself just by being a little resourceful. Unfortunately it looks like console commands are a no go for BW games... especially with all the DA:K business of reading your decisions; they have to make it compatible so there is no contradictory impossibilities (although there are few). This also looks like mods are almost entirely out of the picture as well because there are a ton of them out there that also cause your game to not sync. Yup BW is anti-modding/consoling. I'm still really looking forward to this game though, its gunna be AWEsome.

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

Watch out, we got a badass over here!

 

You must get so much women with your awesome gaming skillz. 

 

Well yeah....except there's a key flaw in that argument.

 

Crossword puzzles are really really lame. 

I simply gave my opinion. I might have a negative view on cheaters due to me generalizing and stereotyping them as inept (not denying that). I stand by my opinion that statistically - people who tend to cheat also do not tend to be as resourceful or good at things as people who choose not to cheat.

 

My statement was not really made to start an argument. But you seem to have taken offense from my statement since you chose not to deny my point or defend the opposite. What you did do, was come with a very poorly made misdirection (red herring fallacy) to misdirect or distract from the actual issue. This in the form of a completely irrelevant personal attack (ad hominem) which has nothing to do with my statement or the topic of cheating in video games in any way. 

In the 2nd quote here, you claim to see a key flaw in an argument. Which is humorous since by resorting to misdirection just before, instead of coming with constructive arguments for your own standpoint, combined with a crude attempt at ad hominem and an all-together evasion of your own topic - you basically forfeited your credibility.

 

In the context of the 2nd quote though; your intent is obviously intended as humorous, you do not seem to take yourself too seriously and you appear to be in a good mood all-around. With this in mind Im guessing your intent with suddenly starting to swing insults around was not malevolent but a defense mechanism. However as for discussing this topic further Im afraid that ship has sailed as I have deemed you too juvenile and immature for any serious discussion.

[Gill Kaiser]

No, I don't see the point. It's just ruining the game for yourself.

[Elhanan]

No, I don't see the point. It's just ruining the game for yourself.

Disagree. Seem more like Mods to me; are able to better tailor the game to address specific issues as desired with them.

As for other posters:

"Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable." - Mark Twain

"There are two kinds of statistics, the kind you look up and the kind you make up." - Rex Stout

[Grayvisions]

Yes. 

 

I hate vendors with limited cash, and likewise I hate not being able to eventually afford everything in the game. If either of these two things is part of the game, then I will give myself infinite money. Console, or not.

[Gill Kaiser]

Disagree. Seem more like Mods to me; are able to better tailor the game to address specific issues as desired with them.

As for other posters:

"Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable." - Mark Twain

"There are two kinds of statistics, the kind you look up and the kind you make up." - Rex Stout

Sure, perhaps once you've played the game for a while and you know what you want and need from it, it's less of an issue. But opening the console from the very beginning and giving yourself limitless gold, or console commanding away any difficulties you have during your first playthrough? I think that's ruining the experience. You aren't even giving yourself a chance to appreciate the game as intended.

[Elhanan]

Sure, perhaps once you've played the game for a while and you know what you want and need from it, it's less of an issue. But opening the console from the very beginning and giving yourself limitless gold, or console commanding away any difficulties you have during your first playthrough? I think that's ruining the experience. You aren't even giving yourself a chance to appreciate the game as intended.

It is up to the indv Player to choose how they wish to play, but this is not what I usually do in my games. I play initially as designed for one campaign, or at least until I encounter the Tedium Monster. Then I add commands as deemed needed or worthy. Most games I add Gold; hate the shopping hauls, and more gold means I do not have to tote Dwemer scrap, mundane armor and weaponry, etc. around the maps. I can purchase the items desired when they appear in the shops; not simply salivate over some gear for game usage that vanishes on a random re-stock.

And I loathe spamming exploits. No need to craft thousands of potions that are found to be profitable when a single command offers that same results. My time is valuable to me, and I do not wish to waste it on click-fests.

But why do folks that have another approach to their game even get to the notion that any other style is cheating in a solo game? Seems somewhat off to me.

[TanithAeyrs]

I never use console commands unless it is the only way around a known bug (looks at Skyrim).   I prefer to use mods that fix the bugs rather than console commanding around them. 

[prosthetic soul]

I simply gave my opinion. I might have a negative view on cheaters due to me generalizing and stereotyping them as inept (not denying that). I stand by my opinion that statistically - people who tend to cheat also do not tend to be as resourceful or good at things as people who choose not to cheat.

 

My statement was not really made to start an argument. But you seem to have taken offense from my statement since you chose not to deny my point or defend the opposite. What you did do, was come with a very poorly made misdirection (red herring fallacy) to misdirect or distract from the actual issue. This in the form of a completely irrelevant personal attack (ad hominem) which has nothing to do with my statement or the topic of cheating in video games in any way. 

In the 2nd quote here, you claim to see a key flaw in an argument. Which is humorous since by resorting to misdirection just before, instead of coming with constructive arguments for your own standpoint, combined with a crude attempt at ad hominem and an all-together evasion of your own topic - you basically forfeited your credibility.

 

In the context of the 2nd quote though; your intent is obviously intended as humorous, you do not seem to take yourself too seriously and you appear to be in a good mood all-around. With this in mind Im guessing your intent with suddenly starting to swing insults around was not malevolent but a defense mechanism. However as for discussing this topic further Im afraid that ship has sailed as I have deemed you too juvenile and immature for any serious discussion.

wtf

[Chanda]

If they're in, I know the first thing I'm going to do as soon as my game finishes installing...

 

Spoiler

*press ~ key (or whatever activates it)

*player.additem f 9999999*

 

Okay, that's a method for a completely different game but Skyrim fans you know what I'm talking about.  I always like to have a crap ton of gold on me at all times.  Just in case I come across this really fabulous piece of outfit in a store that I wouldn't have the money for otherwise.  It's a weakness.  I'm sorry.  Money is hard enough to come by in real life.  I hate working for it in video games.  >_>

 

 

Okay, I admit that I have a habit of using the god mode in Skyrim for serious battles in which I would normally get pwned. And the additem thing. Because dammit, I'm a mom with two babies and I DON'T HAVE TIME TO RUN AROUND FINDING **** AND THEN SMITHING IT TO MAKE SOMETHING ELSE, OKAY??

 

I just want to play in the tiny amount of time that I have and do the quests. Some smith needs fire salts? I'm not running all over the place looking for them, going to every alchemist I can find (Because sometimes they don't always have them!) I'll just add them to my inventory via the console.

 

Edit: That being said, that's for Skyrim. I don't usually use cheat codes for Bioware games. I work within what the game offers.

[Lee80]

PS4 player, so no console commands for me.  Though, I probably would not have cheated anyway.  It takes some of the fun out of the games, even if this one probably will be harder then I'd like it to be. v.v

[DalishRanger]

First playthrough - not likely unless I get stuck. On replays? Very likely, especially to quick-level a character replay if there's no new game plus, or I'm on something like my 6th replay and don't feel like spending hours and hours on combat.

[TheGhost88]

On my first play through i don't use console commands. Once i have finished my first play through i will use them like crazy if they are available.

[Joe-Poe]

Abuse? No..but will use them to max out crafting and to spawn crafting mats because I find crafting boring and just want to make my gear look the way i want it to look from the get go.

[windsea]

I never cheat on the first run, after that it will come down to how much i like the gameplay.

[Arkevilex]

never ever will I use cheats on the first play-through of anything. That's like adding salt to a dish before even tasting it. 

[Thibax]

My thinking is: play the way you like it, if it's fun for you, then no problem. The good is to play and have fun. 

Just can not cheat in games with other people. 

But if you are alone, have fun, be free. 

Use or not, will not belittle you. 

Play with them, play without them, play with the game. 

[Kisari]

Only if it's easily available. If I have to do anything harder than how you enable cheats in Baldur's Gate I wont bother. I am indeed that lazy.

In general if there is a cheat to add gold that is the only one I'd use. But it really depends. If it's like DA2 where I had NO problem getting gold, I wont. I ran around with god mode on in Skyrim because I couldn't stop myself from stealing literally everything and kept exceeding how much I could hold. So I kept it on so I wouldn't have to go back home and drop off my 10,000 pieces of lettuce.

[xkg]

Oh yu guys, hehe. In most Online games (statistic made up on the spot) 80% players do cheat 15% don't - just because they don't know how, but they want to - and the rest of them, this last 5% (more like 0,5% probably) are white knights - they don't want to cheat.

In every single game. Not long age it was the World of Tanks. Almost everyone was using the "hide tress and bushes" mod (read - cheat). Tons of players buying premium armo piercing ammo - Gold Ammo - that one is legit of course but how is that fair ? Just a legalised cheat, that's all it is. And the list goes on, and on and on ...

 

And Inquisition is going to be a SP game, so it doesn't matter completely.

So Yes. I am going to use it like there is no tommorow, but probably not the console. Its easier just to fire up the memory editor and do it by myself. Most of the times I can do a lot more with it, than just a simple cheats and I don't need the devs to give me accesss to their console.

[blahblah]

Better believe i'll be cheating. I dont care for the gameplay of this game at all. Only the story.

[Cousland27]

I never used console commands for gameplay purposes only to give myself items from mods only obtainable via console.

[Zu Long]

Maybe the fourth time through when I don't really care about gameplay and am just trying to get through the story.