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Just how different will the game be on Last Gen hardware?


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Kinda peeved that the game's final build doesn't look nearly as graphically impressive as that. This has been happening WAY too often these past few years. Devs show off how visually amazing their game is at E3, and then the game is nearing release and it's received one hell of a graphical downgrade. Let me count the number of games just off the top of my head that have done this:

 

Uncharted 3

Aliens: Colonial Marines

Dark Souls 2

Watch Dogs

Infamous Second Son

 

Even the highly anticipated Witcher 3 had recently been discovered to have a big downgrade:

http://linustechtips...de-controversy/

 

Now the same thing is happening to Dragon Age: Inquisition. And you just watch, I'm willing to bet that the same thing is gonna happen to Batman: Arkham Knight. Mark my words.

 

I understand great graphics don't make a great game. But it only becomes very irritating when the final product doesn't look nearly as beautiful as what they advertised earlier. This has been happening WAY too often, to the point where most gamers are gonna catch on and know from this point forward that these games just aren't gonna look as visually impressive as what they show at E3 or whatever convention they go to. It's becoming the norm, and it shouldn't.

 

Next gen indeed.

 

Wait who said that it doesn't look as good as that screenshot? I found the Hinterlands screenshots to be as impressive as that one, if not more. and the E3 Gameplay demo in the Hinterlands didn't look that different graphically from those very same screenshots, at all.

 

I'm a little... well, not worried, but more or less nervous about the PC specs. I mean, my system meets the minimum requirements for Battlefield 4, but not the recommended. I don't currently have the money to upgrade, buy a new PC or even get me a PS4, so I might have to get the game on the PS3 and while I favour story and gameplay over visuals, I'm a little worried when it comes to buying the.. 'inferior' console version, if you will.



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This has been happening WAY too often these past few years. 

 

 

Hardly new, I'ts been like that for hundred of years - ever since the people invented the advertisement. With every commercial product there is.

 

 

But it only becomes very irritating when the final product doesn't look nearly as beautiful as what they advertised earlier. This has been happening WAY too often, to the point where most gamers are gonna catch on and know from this point forward that these games just aren't gonna look as visually impressive as what they show at E3 or whatever convention they go to. It's becoming the norm, and it shouldn't.

 

Yes it shouldn't but that's just how the marketing works. Can't do much about that.

In debates like this I love to use one of those food's ads comparisons becuase it's very easy to show what I mean.

 

Spoiler

 

 

The best way is

 

what_you_see_in_advertisement  /  2  = what_you will_get



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But you will eventually get either a PS4 or Xbone anyways. Most new AAA games wont even be on old gen like Advanced Warfare, Halo 5, Mass Effect 4, etc....

I mean buying a new console isnt like buying a new car.

Eventually sure but not for one or two games. When there are a decent number of next-gen only games I want to play I will. I'm not going to get a new platform as long as I can play the games I want to play on my existing console.


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Obviously the graphics won't be the same and you might experience loading times, but a good example of what the last gen consoles can handle is GTA V.  It's a pretty big game and I play it on ps3.  I'll be playing DA:I on ps4, but I don't think it would be too bad to play on ps3 or xbox 360.

 

I'm sure there will be a group of people playing on last gen consoles.  If you can handle not having the best graphics, they'll still be good, just not as detailed.  I'd prefer PC, but I need a new PC.  PC will always offer the best graphics if you have the right set up.



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Kinda peeved that the game's final build doesn't look nearly as graphically impressive as that. This has been happening WAY too often these past few years. Devs show off how visually amazing their game is at E3, and then the game is nearing release and it's received one hell of a graphical downgrade. Let me count the number of games just off the top of my head that have done this:

 

Uncharted 3

Aliens: Colonial Marines

Dark Souls 2

Watch Dogs

Infamous Second Son

 

Even the highly anticipated Witcher 3 had recently been discovered to have a big downgrade:

http://linustechtips...de-controversy/

 

Now the same thing is happening to Dragon Age: Inquisition. And you just watch, I'm willing to bet that the same thing is gonna happen to Batman: Arkham Knight. Mark my words.

 

I understand great graphics don't make a great game. But it only becomes very irritating when the final product doesn't look nearly as beautiful as what they advertised earlier. This has been happening WAY too often, to the point where most gamers are gonna catch on and know from this point forward that these games just aren't gonna look as visually impressive as what they show at E3 or whatever convention they go to. It's becoming the norm, and it shouldn't.

 

Next gen indeed.

 

they definitely shouldn't advertise something that looks much better than the final game BUT like you said graphics don't make a game

so if the story and the gameplay are good, if the game has enough content I don't give a **** about graphics

 

Maybe they downgraded some things so that it runs better and the world is more livelier but nope

sadly many gamers these days are basically graphic whores
 



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What we know is this:

  • Lesser effects
  • Lesser polygons
  • Lower NPC count

I fully expect us to remain this way up until launch. I doubt BioWare will ever bother producing official comparisons between the two generations (although admittedly that would be very nice of them), but someone somewhere is bound to do it post-launch.



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What would be really cool, is if you purchased say, the PS3 version. Then later on get the PS4 Version, the magic of The Cloud still gives you access to the content you earned with the PS3 version



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Why would anyone even play this game on past gen consoles?

Not to be captain obvious: Because we don't have next gen consoles?


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Next gen indeed.

I do wonder though if the game still being released on previous gen is the cause of games like this to not of been as impressive as they could be.



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I doubt it. It seems they simply make the next gen game, then gimp it for older consoles. 



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But you will eventually get either a PS4 or Xbone anyways. Most new AAA games wont even be on old gen like Advanced Warfare, Halo 5, Mass Effect 4, etc....

I mean buying a new console isnt like buying a new car.

 

I managed to save enough for a PS4 and got it earlier this week and am thrilled.

 

But it ain't as simple as you make it sound, dude. I borrowed a hundred, compiled nearly all money I got from a birthday, and then paid the rest with what I saved up over 3 years in a change jar at college. If I had had to pay out of pocket, I couldn't have done it (especially with student loan payments around the corner).

 

Expensive machinery is expensive.

 

@OP: Honestly, I think it'll be fine. Sure, the graphics probably won't be as sharp, but I don't think they'll be bad, and since you don't have a current gen console, it's not like you'll have much to compare it to. I think it'll look way better than DA2. So I wouldn't worry about it. It'll be fine.


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Another reason to be next gen if you can, obvious its not realistic for everyone, but their will no doubt be a longer multiplayer community on current gen consoles and pc versions.



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probably, good thing I don't play RPGs for multiplayer.



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A little hint from Aaryn the other day...

 

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is the difference between the ps3 and ps4 version really big or does it look nice on ps3 also...?

 

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I think PS3 looks pretty good. Comparable to other PS3 games, and better than DA:O and DA2. But you won't regret a PS4!


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I wouldn't regret a PS4 if there were at least 4 other games for it that looked good. As it currently stands this is the only game I would have for it. Frankly I doubt DAI is worth $460, no matter how good it is. 


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I wouldn't regret a PS4 if there were at least 4 other games for it that looked good. As it currently stands this is the only game I would have for it. Frankly I doubt DAI is worth $460, no matter how good it is. 

I have an xbone, but I must admit its very underused. There is a dire lack of rpgs. Need me some witcher n dragon age combo. I'd say by next Christmas it will be a worthwhile investment. I'm just using it for games with gold (free monthly games). Also yeah multiplayer in a game like dragon age isn't a good feature, but sure ill try it out.



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I wouldn't regret a PS4 if there were at least 4 other games for it that looked good. As it currently stands this is the only game I would have for it. Frankly I doubt DAI is worth $460, no matter how good it is. 

 

Yeah, that's what sucks about when consoles first come out. I got inFamous Second Son and am enjoying it, but that's pretty much it. I love Tomb Raider, but I already own the PS3 one.



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Gameplay should be identical.

Worse graphics, obviously.  I don't know, maybe you could compare BF4, which uses the same engine, on the different systems?   Here's a video that does that

I think there might be fewer background NPCs in some areas.  Not sure if that's confirmed or just speculation.

 

That video actually spooked me. As someone who typically does not give a s*** about graphics I actually cringed at the difference. 



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I'm getting DA:I for the PS3 as that's what I have and being in college, I just don't have the money to cough up for a next gen console before Inquisition comes out. Though I do plan to get it again for the PS4 eventually, primarily for the graphical difference.



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Yea I've decided to just get the PS3 version I think. No single game is worth an entire Console. I did that once, for Oblivion on 360. I won't be that silly again. 



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That video actually spooked me. As someone who typically does not give a s*** about graphics I actually cringed at the difference. 

 

Same here. I actually was gonna get the PS3 version, but that video has pretty much encouraged me to get a PS4.



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If EA is smart, they'll do a next-gen upgrade offer with Inquisition. Already been done with some AAA titles, with last month's Destiny being the latest.



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Would love if they released some comparison shots before release date. I hope my xbox360 does a good job cause I seriously can't afford to buy a whole new system for one game. Bewildered by some of the posters here who think $500+ is nothing. 



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The most important things are loading time and fps for ps3/x360,not the graphic IMO,the gameplay should be same



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I do wonder though if the game still being released on previous gen is the cause of games like this to not of been as impressive as they could be.

 

That was my original thought, but have you seen the latest images of Witcher 3? It looks nowhere near as impressive as what they were showing off. I really think this "next gen" is basically gonna be the same as last, only with a little bit better textures. I don't think they could've really stepped up the graphics on newer hardware, without charging people serious cash. I mean we saw how people reacted with the whole $599 US Dollars thing with the PS3, and that was before we hit the recession. 

 

I mean they're still struggling to run games at 60 fps on 1080p. 1080 should be the norm these days, it's been around for years. 4k is just around the corner.