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[dantares83]

I'm pretty sure this has been discussed many times but all clues seem to lead to him being a Tranquill Mage (who somehow still kept some of his magic).

 

Maybe he is just a very short human after all. 

[TheJediSaint]

No, he's just a dwarven savant whose really good at enchantment and boom.

[Dubya75]

Sandal expresses emotion, which immediately excludes him from the tranquil, who by definition is stripped of emotion.

[JAZZ_LEG3ND]

Wasn't there a rumour floating around that said Sandal was half elf, thus he has a unique kind of magic, or something...? Sure I heard that somewhere.

[raging_monkey]

Wasn't there a rumour floating around that said Sandal was half elf, thus he has a unique kind of magic, or something...? Sure I heard that somewhere.

yeah its a popular theory

[JAZZ_LEG3ND]

yeah its a popular theory

Cool. I'm not going crazy.

Anyone know if he'll show up in Inquisition?
Even if it’s unconfirmed, I suspect he'll be around.

[Icy Magebane]

Even a very short human wouldn't be mistaken for a dwarf on Thedas... there seem to be some physical differences between the two races that go beyond height.

[raging_monkey]

Cool. I'm not going crazy.Anyone know if he'll show up in Inquisition?Even if it’s unconfirmed, I suspect he'll be around.

nah your not crazy... just really sane XD. im also fond of the little guy(pun intended)

Even a very short human wouldn't be mistaken for a dwarf on Thedas... there seem to be some physical differences between the two races that go beyond height.

nose, beards, forehead, and cheeckbones are the give aways

[Icy Magebane]

nose, beards, forehead, and cheeckbones are the give aways

Their arms were also a bit longer than normal in DA:O, and their chests a bit wider than average... that doesn't seem to be the case in DA:I, but still... a human would have to be born and then develop in a very specific, possibly unnatural, way to look like a DA dwarf.

[JAZZ_LEG3ND]

Yeah, dwarves are super stocky.

I don't think one could ever pass for a human.

[Pantalaimon]

Wouldn't it be possible for a Dwarf to dream and use magic if they live on the surface away from lyrium? It'd probably take a long time (a few generations at least) but it might be possible. Though Sandal was found in the deep roads, which is full of lyrium, so I guess my theory doesn't apply to him.

[raging_monkey]

Their arms were also a bit longer than normal in DA:O, and their chests a bit wider than average... that doesn't seem to be the case in DA:I, but still... a human would have to be born and then develop in a very specific, possibly unnatural, way to look like a DA dwarf.

not to mention being stouty people... i blame genes

[raging_monkey]

Wouldn't it be possible for a Dwarf to dream and use magic if they live on the surface away from lyrium? It'd probably take a long time (a few generations at least) but it might be possible. Though Sandal was found in the deep roads, which is full of lyrium, so I guess my theory is wrong.

tevinters have proven dwarves are immune(unless extreme circumstances and even then are only pulled into the fade). But there are dwaven "magi" but they are considered tranquil

[Icy Magebane]

Wouldn't it be possible for a Dwarf to dream and use magic if they live on the surface away from lyrium? It'd probably take a long time (a few generations at least) but it might be possible. Though Sandal was found in the deep roads, which is full of lyrium, so I guess my theory doesn't apply to him.

Unfortunately, no... there are long bloodlines of surface dwarves and those families haven't been exposed to lyrium in generations.  Whatever the cause of the dwarven inability to enter the Fade through normal means and cast spells, it's not related to lyrium.  They do lose their magic resistance in time after being on the surface for too long, but... the Dwarven Inquisitor is a surface dwarf who has some kind of magic resistance, so this may have been retconed...

[Pantalaimon]

Ahhh, okay. Thanks, DA lore never ceases to amaze and intrigue me. 

[raging_monkey]

Ahhh, okay. Thanks, DA lore never ceases to amaze and intrigue me.

agreed

[TTTX]

Sandal has enchantment, boom, "not enchantment" and have killed a lot of things. 

 

He is defiantly not a tranquil (because he has emotions), not so sure about the mage part it depends on what the "not enchantment" is.

[vertigomez]

Unfortunately, no... there are long bloodlines of surface dwarves and those families haven't been exposed to lyrium in generations.  Whatever the cause of the dwarven inability to enter the Fade through normal means and cast spells, it's not related to lyrium.  They do lose their magic resistance in time after being on the surface for too long, but... the Dwarven Inquisitor is a surface dwarf who has some kind of magic resistance, so this may have been retconed...

I always wondered if the dwarves' inability to do magic is in any way related to the elves (supposedly) all being mages back in Arlathan.

After all, Sandal prophesied that "One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were."

[Icy Magebane]

I always wondered if the dwarves' inability to do magic is in any way related to the elves (supposedly) all being mages back in Arlathan.

After all, Sandal prophesied that "One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were."

No idea... and tbh the more people mention that quote, the more worried I get for the future of Thedas.  Everyone suddenly becoming mages can only end in tragedy considering all of the problems that go along with it in this setting...

[vertigomez]

No idea... and tbh the more people mention that quote, the more worried I get for the future of Thedas.  Everyone suddenly becoming mages can only end in tragedy considering all of the problems that go along with it in this setting...

Yes, but the worse it gets for the people of Thedas, the more exciting it gets for the gamers of Earth!

[raging_monkey]

No idea... and tbh the more people mention that quote, the more worried I get for the future of Thedas.  Everyone suddenly becoming mages can only end in tragedy considering all of the problems that go along with it in this setting...

if that happens thedas will become another D&D universe (and i love dnd)

[Dusksworn]

I always wondered if the dwarves' inability to do magic is in any way related to the elves (supposedly) all being mages back in Arlathan.

After all, Sandal prophesied that "One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were."

Obviously Sandal has a connection to something that gives him insight into the future, and allows him to use "Not-Enchantment".

 

Also obviously, I would probably term Sandal as some sort of Prophet.

[Kieran G.]

Anyone know if he'll show up in Inquisition?
Even if it’s unconfirmed, I suspect he'll be around.

Well near the end of DA2 they did say empress Celene invited Sandal to the Orlesian court.

[Dusksworn]

Well near the end of DA2 they did say empress Celene invited Sandal to the Orlesian court.

Ah yes.

 

And there he will awaken the Stone and serve as its Herald.

[Kieran G.]

Ah yes.

 

And there he will awaken the Stone and serve as its messenger.

I hope if they do show up again Varric and Leliana have a conversation with them since Bodahn and Sandal haven't seen the two of them in years