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[vertigomez]

I would buy this game just to see Sandal scratch his butt in front of the Empress.

Glorious.

[Zack_Nero]

No, he doesn't have a brand, however am will to believe a tranquil give birth to him though.

[Icy Magebane]

No, he doesn't have a brand, however am will to believe a tranquil give birth to him though.

You think Sandal is human?

[Master Warder Z_]

I would buy this game just to see Sandal scratch his butt in front of the Empress.

Glorious.

 

Celene: You...you what?

 

Sandal: I made the potty!

[Tevinter Soldier]

I wonder if we can offer to give sandel to the elder one as a peace deal?

 

seems like win, win.

 

World doesn't end.

annoying dwarf tossed to some demon god.

[Dusksworn]

I wonder if we can offer to give sandel to the elder one as a peace deal?

 

seems like win, win.

 

World doesn't end.

annoying dwarf tossed to some demon god.

That was his plan all along.

 

It turns out that Sandal is the only suitable vessel to contain the Elder One's power.

[Master Warder Z_]

That was his plan all along.

 

It turns out that Sandal is the only suitable vessel to contain the Elder One's power.

 

._.

 

That's dumb.

 

Dwarves are crappy vessels.

 

Their short, stocky and can't reach the tops of shelves or use the privy.

[Dusksworn]

._.

 

That's dumb.

 

Dwarves are crappy vessels.

 

Their short, stocky and can't reach the tops of shelves or use the privy.

Think of him like a really good water balloon.

 

He'll expand with abomination-stuff until he's large enough.

[Zack_Nero]

You think Sandal is human?

I never said that, what if someone made Sandal's mother a tranquil, you know as test to see what would happen.  Or Sandal's father, cause the right takes away emotion, but it was never stated that they can't do other stuff.  Just saying it is a possibility.

[Icy Magebane]

I never said that, what if someone made Sandal's mother a tranquil, you know as test to see what would happen.  Or Sandal's father, cause the right takes away emotion, but it was never stated that they can't do other stuff.  Just saying it is a possibility.

Sorry, I never imagined a dwarf being made tranquil... or any non-mage for that matter.  I thought you meant his mother was a human mage, and agreed with the OP's view that he is actually a short human.

[Reptillius]

I think Sandal may be along similar lines of being to Flemeth Quite honestly.  And while we have educated guesses and assumptions we can't really be certain what either of them really is.  But they both seem to play subtle parts in manipulating events of the Dragon Age.

[dantares83]

i mean Sandal is speaking monotonously like most other Tranquill, he speaks only a few words and is very good at enchantments. Most of the mages who have their magic stripped off became enchanters. 

 

Besides, he manged to freeze a Orge. Only a mage would be able to do that. 

[Reptillius]

His tone is not a monotone way of speaking.  It's hard to have much inflection when you speak very few words. But he clearly has emotions. Everything from jumping up and down and practically shouting a couple times when him doing Enchantments mentioned, to a more inquisitive tone to it at other times.  There is also the way he says "not enchantment" almost like he's got a secret in DA:II

 

the other flaw to the tranquil argument is that while in a tranquil state mages cannot enact magic.  So if he were Tranquil he'd have been unable to freeze the Ogre through Magic. 

 

His somehow surviving the deep roads and exposure to lots of Lyrium as an infant being abandoned makes an Abomination far more likely scenario but one we can't really confirm because despite having contact with them we really can't truly pin down real details as to what "positive spirit" abominations are really like and capable of.  specially considering like their negative emotion counterparts there are several different kinds of them and each is going to have very unique aspects and the couple we have seen attest to this.

 

But at the same time. If he is such a creature that would mean Flemeth is as well and Flemeth's story is such that it makes the whole issue far more complicated if even only partly true.

 

And the way they seem to pop up at certain opportune moments and otherwise be in places that influence history.  I could argue that potentially Sandal And Flemeth both could have ties to the "cleansed" old gods in some fashion.  This could be supported by a believable idea of this is how Morrigan got her hands on the Dark Ritual for the end of DA:O if you chose that route.  It could also mean that while potentially being abomination like they are very different creatures that don't have to follow certain restrictions of abomination like creatures.

[riverbanks]

After all, Sandal prophesied that "One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were."

 

Hasn't this "prophecy" been shrugged off before as the Writer's Pit trying to out-weird each other and coming up with increasingly absurd lines to put in the game on a particularly long hours crunch night, and not to be taken as the seed of super secret hidden plots to come? I'd be wary of putting more stock into it than the writers do.

[Gorguz]

Rumor is, Sandal is the son of King Aeducan (the father of a possible Warden) and an elf. I don't know how that rumor came to life, but people i heard speak about it seemed to be sure of it, like, clues in games sure.

[growly beast]

I do not think that he is, but I believe the parallels in his behavior and the Tranquil are definitely intentional.

[vertigomez]

Hasn't this "prophecy" been shrugged off before as the Writer's Pit trying to out-weird each other and coming up with increasingly absurd lines to put in the game on a particularly long hours crunch night, and not to be taken as the seed of super secret hidden plots to come? I'd be wary of putting more stock into it than the writers do.

That's a red herring to throw us off the scent of the true Messiah, Sandal.

[LOLandStuff]

Sandal is beyond our understanding.

[Avaflame]

I believe Sandal's mother could have been human as well, not an elf specifically. In terms of him being a mage, I don't see it because of his enchantment skills. In the lore, only tranquil mages enchant because if non-tranquil mages touch unrefined or undiluted lyrium or whatever they essentially die immediately from a lyrium overdose. I like the theory of having a tranquil mother though.

[Reptillius]

Some of Sandal's behavior could be attributed to his abilities with Enchantment. We can't say how much however. We do know dwarves do end up with quirks from too much exposure to lyrium.  If you all would remember a certain salesman in Orzamar not far from the mines entrance into the deep roads.

 

That being said they are typically the same personality quirks that some would use to attribute a Tranquil state to him.  That of being few of words and reactions to various events.

 

Orzamar also has people who talk about most dwarven smiths doing enchanting to various degrees and skill levels because of their non-magical nature. So Tranquil are not the only ones that do enchanting in Thedas.

[Icy Magebane]

Rumor is, Sandal is the son of King Aeducan (the father of a possible Warden) and an elf. I don't know how that rumor came to life, but people i heard speak about it seemed to be sure of it, like, clues in games sure.

Tbh I get the feeling that the "half elf" theory came from Sandal's... peculiarities.  I doubt there is any real evidence behind it.  I have never heard any, at least...

[Reptillius]

My own Theory as I've mentioned in another thread is that Flemeth and Sandal are both some kind of potentially abomination like beings but different.  They both show up at key points to subtly nudge events in different directions. Perhaps they have some connection to the souls of the Old Gods even.  It would explain why Morrigan has the Dark Ritual that she could perform for example.

[Icy Magebane]

My own Theory as I've mentioned in another thread is that Flemeth and Sandal are both some kind of potentially abomination like beings but different.  They both show up at key points to subtly nudge events in different directions. Perhaps they have some connection to the souls of the Old Gods even.  It would explain why Morrigan has the Dark Ritual that she could perform for example.

So Sandal is just pretending to not know what's going on?  I guess it's possible... on the other hand, it might just be a running joke and an easy way for us to have access to enchanting in key situations in the game (like in the final level right before the last boss).  I'm not really sure what to think, so I'm just waiting for the writers to tell us.

[Reptillius]

It wouldn't be the first time a vastly powerful figure played clueless in stories.    And you didn't get any convenient shopping or enchanting in the deep roads with the stunt he pulled there.  And while convenient that event kind of ties into the fact that he's standing in a pile of darkspawn bodies in DA:O and you can ask him about it and he just shrugs and doesn't answer.  We can't really be sure of just how much he is or isn't clueless as little as he speaks.

 

edit:  Seeming Clueless is also a good way to stay in very close proximity to the "heroes" while nobody expects anything potentially to keep an eye on them while Flemeth is doing The Maker Only Knows What.