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[Icy Magebane]

It wouldn't be the first time a vastly powerful figure played clueless in stories.    And you didn't get any convenient shopping or enchanting in the deep roads with the stunt he pulled there.  And while convenient that event kind of ties into the fact that he's standing in a pile of darkspawn bodies in DA:O and you can ask him about it and he just shrugs and doesn't answer.  We can't really be sure of just how much he is or isn't clueless as little as he speaks.

Well, it's pretty convenient that he's even on the expedition in the first place and that the incident you mentioned allows him to conveniently set up shop in Hawke Manor... normally, you'd need to go to the Circle or Orzammar for enchantment, and it's not free.

[Reptillius]

Icy yes it is convenient. But at the same time that convenience does in some ways fit my theory because that convenience makes him invaluable to Hawke because good heroes are going to want or need enchanting work done.

[Ceoldoren]

Ah yes.

 

And there he will awaken the Stone and serve as its Herald.

I'm curious if there is any relevance to the 'The Stone lives below Orlais' thing. I mean it's pretty hidden in DA:O (In one of the DLC's I think, Leliana's Song ?)

[Icy Magebane]

Icy yes it is convenient. But at the same time that convenience does in some ways fit my theory because that convenience makes him invaluable to Hawke because good heroes are going to want or need enchanting work done.

Yes, I think that fits with your theory.  Tbh, yours is actually better than some that I've heard, I'm just not willing to commit to anything right now since we could easily be wrong.  I'm going to go with the simplest answer, although I do enjoy reading what other people have come up with... well, sometimes.

[Reptillius]

For the issue of the stone living under Orlais. There is mention of another of the Dwarven Cities like Orzammar having survived the Dark Spawn cut off from Orzammar itself.  This could be what that saying is referencing somehow.  All the roads you get to travel in DA:O and DA:A are under Fereldan afterall but we know that the Dwarves used to have a civilization just about as big as those topside all on their own.

[Cyr8]

I'm calling it now. Going with Sandal's prophecy (https://www.youtube....h?v=mYFTX_2F0X4), I'm calling it now: by the end of DA:I everyone will be able to do magic.

[ald0s]

I'm calling it now. Going with Sandal's prophecy (https://www.youtube....h?v=mYFTX_2F0X4), I'm calling it now: by the end of DA:I everyone will be able to do magic.

 

My, thats an interesting theory and could work out quite well. At least based on what we know of the DAI story yet.

[Vaticinator]

I'm calling it now. Going with Sandal's prophecy (https://www.youtube....h?v=mYFTX_2F0X4), I'm calling it now: by the end of DA:I everyone will be able to do magic.

 

Semi-confirmed rumour: Sandal is the Catalyst, predicting the Synthesis ending.

[raging_monkey]

Semi-confirmed rumour: Sandal is the Catalyst, predicting the Synthesis ending.

id actually do that magic for everybody and templars will get a taste of their medicine and fear

[Dusksworn]

id actually do that magic for everybody and templars will get a taste of their medicine and fear

Won't the Templars probably be the best non-mage magic users in such circumstances?

 

They've certainly got the best experience with it of all non-mages, and even know how to use some amount of magic.

[Icy Magebane]

My, thats an interesting theory and could work out quite well. At least based on what we know of the DAI story yet.

What about the demons?  Wouldn't it be really easy for abominations to show up throughout Thedas if all non-mages suddenly become fully connected to the Fade?  They have no training in resisting possession and have never been conscious inside the Fade, so they wouldn't know what to expect...

[wyandell26]

Sorry, I never imagined a dwarf being made tranquil... or any non-mage for that matter.  I thought you meant his mother was a human mage, and agreed with the OP's view that he is actually a short human.

 

Maybe Sandal's mother was an elf who got pregnant with a dwarf, who was turned tranquil while pregnant and he ends up kinda like Alia in Dune

[raging_monkey]

Won't the Templars probably be the best non-mage magic users in such circumstances?
 
They've certainly got the best experience with it of all non-mages, and even know how to use some amount of magic.

knowing how to dispel magic and constantly fighting off mental invasion are different things. Intheory yes if they can fight off mental invasion they are the pyschically the best but magically its a grey area cause just cause you have magic doesnt mean your good at.

Food for thought

[fhs33721]

What about the demons?  Wouldn't it be really easy for abominations to show up throughout Thedas if all non-mages suddenly become fully connected to the Fade?  They have no training in resisting possession and have never been conscious inside the Fade, so they wouldn't know what to expect...

It would probably like Christmas  and Easter fell on the same day for demons. Or like a Oprah show:

You get a free mage body,

and you get a free mage body,

everybody gets a free mage body!

[Shahadem]

Sandal is not a mage. He's just a dwarf who is naturally good at creating destructive type enchantments. But all dwarfs are able to manipulate lyrium in this way with sufficient training according to DA:O and DA:A lore. For example you have Paragon Caridin who figured out how to enchant an anvil in such a way that it transfers souls from living bodies into soulless statues. You also have the entire area in DA:A where dwarven blacksmiths went to learn the art of lyrium manipulation, ie enchanting.

 

Being able to use actual magic is based on one's ability to manipulate the Fade. The degree to which one can pull the Fade into reality is the degree to which a mage can manipulate reality. Being connected to or in the Fade isn't the same as being able to manipulate the Fade.

 

Even with a lot of lyrium, a person who can't manipulate the Fade can't perform magic whereas even a mage who can only weakly connect to the Fade is able to perform great magical feats with sufficient lyrium to intermingle enough of the Fade and the real world.

[Shahadem]

Rumor is, Sandal is the son of King Aeducan (the father of a possible Warden) and an elf. I don't know how that rumor came to life, but people i heard speak about it seemed to be sure of it, like, clues in games sure.

 

Because people were confusing Alistair's history with Sandals. Alistair is rumored to be the son of King Cailan and a lady elf.

 

Coincidentally Alistair does have facial hair despite being a half elf so having or not having facial hair means nothing, unless you are talking about half Qunaris. It's possible that Sandal doesn't have facial hair because his body never sexually matured.

[Medhia_Nox]

I think he's a dwarf that's going to bring Runecrafting to the forefront of DA and turn it into something far beyond just "fire sword".

[Icy Magebane]

Because people were confusing Alistair's history with Sandals. Alistair is rumored to be the son of King Cailan and a lady elf.

 

Coincidentally Alistair does have facial hair despite being a half elf so having or not having facial hair means nothing, unless you are talking about half Qunaris. It's possible that Sandal doesn't have facial hair because his body never sexually matured.

That's because the result of an elf and human pairing is 100% human due to some undisclosed magical factors.

[Shahadem]

I think he's a dwarf that's going to bring Runecrafting to the forefront of DA and turn it into something far beyond just "fire sword".

 

Except for the fact that:

a) Enchanting is already an advanced and existing dwarven science. See Paragon Caridin.

Sandal is not actually a Savant. He has no understanding of what he does, he is simply good at making enchantments that produce destructive effects. Since he does not understand the how or why of what he does he is not able to advance the science himself.

 

Also I think Sandal is a stupid character and hope we get to kill him in DA:I because he's so annoying.

[Shahadem]

That's because the result of an elf and human pairing is 100% human due to some undisclosed magical factors.

 

And there's no reason to believe that would be any different between an elf and dwarf, even assuming such a pairing could produce offspring.

 

The more likely explanation is the one I already proposed, Sandal never sexually matured.

[Icy Magebane]

And there's no reason to believe that would be any different between an elf and dwarf, even assuming such a pairing could produce offspring.

 

The more likely explanation is the one I already proposed, Sandal never sexually matured.

I don't know anything about that... I was just stating that this was the reason why Alistair had no elven characteristics.

[Reptillius]

Actually there is no proof at all that Sandal does not understand what he is doing.  He could fully well be a Savant. He actually shows quite a number of the signs of being Autistic.    People who are Autistic are not stupid. They just have trouble to varying degrees of communicating and dealing with the world.  They can be extremely intelligent.  we just don't get to see this through the communication limitations.

 

 

There is also the fact that not all of his enchantments are Destructive.  He makes enchantments of every kind with the skill that he possesses.

 

And the fact that what he does in DA:II is specifically stated to be not an enchantment of any kind but isn't clarified beyond that and non-mages that have no training even with proper ammounts of lyrium would not know how to manipulate the magical energies to produce reliable results. Particularly in combat against a number of enemies.