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[DrBlingzle]

How is what i asked for black and white? 

You fool, do you know what you've done?

 

 

Unleashed the TKD

[SerCambria358]

It means clear choice between good and bad so if for example templars were painted as evil and mages as good that would be black and white choice they aren't so it isn't black and white choice... if you want refer to that 1 side see themselves as good and other as evil is quite another matter...     

I literally just gave you the definition of the term "black and white" yet you continue disagreeing with the official definition and insist that it only means "good vs bad"

[katerinafm]

I think that armor and helmet that covered their entire face was there so they could hide that they probably hadn't made their heads underneath yet, hahah (it was an early trailer after all).

 

I'm hoping that we'll be able to recruit some Grey Wardens and that they won't be bad guys. Also yeah, it'd be nice if we were able to see the people/groups we regroup walking around etc.

[SerCambria358]

You fool, do you know what you've done?

What did i do?

[DrBlingzle]

What did i do?

Unleashed the TKD.

[TheKomandorShepard]

I literally just gave you the definition of the term "black and white" yet you continue disagreeing with the official definition and insist that it only means "good vs bad"

I can give you definition as well and here as well

 

 

Unleashed the TKD.

I don't need to be unleashed.

[SerCambria358]

I can give you definition as well and here as well

Ummmm both of which support my point. You said it doesnt mean two opposing ideals and/or principles, i showed you that it does, period. There is zero reason to continue this because i never said it couldnt consist of "good and evil". 

[Inquisitor7]

Why cant we just have multiple options and call it a day?

[DrBlingzle]

Anyway as for what I what I'll do, ideally I'd welcome anyone who is willing to fight and stop the demon incursion above any other goal, regardless of race, gender or magical ability.

 

In reality I expect we'll be able to get new recruits for the inquisition depending on what factions we support and thats it, and I would be perfectly satisfied if that's the case.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Ummmm both of which support my point. You said it doesnt mean two opposing ideals and/or principles, i showed you that it does, period. There is zero reason to continue this because i never said it couldnt consist of "good and evil". 

Simple that both sides have opposite principles doesn't mean they are right or wrong... unless perhaps in their eyes devs strictly said that mage-templar conflict isn't black and white because it doesn't have clear right or wrong of course if you want see that as black and white it is your call but it doesn't mean it is. 

[Adaar the Unbound]

I'm going to choose the mages and recruit the them and I'm hoping to recruit my Qunari's old merc group.

[SerCambria358]

Simple that both sides have opposite principles doesn't mean they are right or wrong... unless perhaps in their eyes devs strictly said that mage-templar conflict isn't black and white because it doesn't have clear right or wrong of course if you want see that as black and white it is your call but it doesn't mean it is. 

This conversation is done, good day sir

[SerCambria358]

Anyway as for what I what I'll do, ideally I'd welcome anyone who is willing to fight and stop the demon incursion above any other goal, regardless of race, gender or magical ability.

 

In reality I expect we'll be able to get new recruits for the inquisition depending on what factions we support and thats it, and I would be perfectly satisfied if that's the case.

Agreed and ill add that according to the concept art, i think it might also depend on who we defeat. Maybe we'll have the choice of letting them join us or killing them for whatever actions they've done, taking induction out of the equation

[Colbyachi]

Asking for the mages and Templars to work together is like asking the legion of the dead to fight next to awakened darkspawn. Sure it'd look badass, but not in the slightest, any form of practical.

[TheKomandorShepard]

This conversation is done, good day sir

 

It is your call as i said your call if you want see that as black and white.

[GenericEnemy]

Maybe race will give you some unique recruitment options, or at least make it easier.

Human - Some Trevelyan family soldiers
Qunari - Valos-kas mercenaries, perhaps other Tal-Vashoth.
Dwarf - Some Carta members
Elf - Perhaps more Dalish than you could before

[RobRam10]

The Venatori and anything from Tevinter.

Glorious Slave gladiator warriors and Tevinter mages at my command! Tal-Vashoth mercenaries, blood mages, chevaliers, dwarven legionnaires (Legion of the Dead).

[SerCambria358]

Asking for the mages and Templars to work together is like asking the legion of the dead to fight next to awakened darkspawn. Sure it'd look badass, but not in the slightest, any form of practical.

Ummmmm templars and mages have fought together plenty of times

[SerCambria358]

Maybe race will give you some unique recruitment options, or at least make it easier.

Human - Some Trevelyan family soldiers
Qunari - Valos-kas mercenaries, perhaps other Tal-Vashoth.
Dwarf - Some Carta members
Elf - Perhaps more Dalish than you could before

While i personally wouldnt mind that at all, i still think it should a choice because i know many players wouldnt take too kindly to being forced into an alliance with these groups

[Colbyachi]

Ummmmm templars and mages have fought together plenty of times

Under the current circumstances? Only way that will be possible is if they force it into the game to please players

[SerCambria358]

Under the current circumstances? Only way that will be possible is if they force it into the game to please players

We have no idea if there are groups on both sides who would prefer peace or at least to declare a truce due to the current events with demons attacking. So i wouldnt make the assumption that there is absolutely no way they would work together without dev intervention 

[Icy Magebane]

We have no idea if there are groups on both sides who would prefer peace or at least to declare a truce due to the current events with demons attacking. So i wouldnt make the assumption that there is absolutely no way they would work together without dev intervention 

The Templars want the mages to go back to the Circle, whereas the mages don't want to go back to the Circle... the two ideas don't sound compatible to me.  A temporary truce might work, but it would be kind of strange to include something like that.  I thought the whole point was to finally resolve this issue, at least for the foreseeable future.  Otherwise, why involve the player at all?

[Kieran G.]

Agreed, making it a black and white decision like DA2 was frustrating, id prefer to induct both but make it a very hard process so it isnt something players just depend on every playthrough.

It wouldn't be a black and white decision. without the peace option in ME3 is it a black and white option? no Both grey, base solely on opinion and your own morals.

 

By adding an option which is completely good by saving both sides you create a black and white scenario but with it eliminated it creates two black which you have to decide seems better than the other.

[SerCambria358]

The Templars want the mages to go back to the Circle, whereas the mages don't want to go back to the Circle... the two ideas don't sound compatible to me.  A temporary truce might work, but it would be kind of strange to include something like that.  I thought the whole point was to finally resolve this issue, at least for the foreseeable future.  Otherwise, why involve the player at all?

Thats the thing, there are also the groups in the grey area such as Vivienne who agrees with the chantry, while there are also Templars who are sympathetic mages (as seen in DA2) we have no idea if these conflicting groups will come into play so to just assume that every single mage wants freedom and every templar wants oppression, isnt a legitimate assumption since we've seen otherwise.