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[Xamalion]

Hey guys,

 

I'm totally new to this community. I actually don't know if I'm in the right place for this, but if not here, then where? I just finished all 3 ME games for the first time in a row over the last weeks and I really don't know what to say. It was the most profound gaming experience in a long time. I was so immersed in that world, all those virtual people grew to my heart in a way I never felt before when playing a game, and I play a lot of games. But this series swept me off my feet. Totally. My friends say I shouldn't let a game get to my heart this way, but I just love to really dive in. And I mean isn't this what gaming is about? Have I gone to deep this time?

 

I finished ME3 saturday night and I feel emtpy since. I'm still thinking about everything I did the last weeks. It felt so real and organic, like coming home from work and actually going to Narnia through the warderobe. Taking care of your crew, talking to them whenever possible, checking if they had something to say or needed my help. I didn't even feel like work or duty. When I was out with friends or at work I was already excited if they had something new to say when I come home and continued.

 

I feel like I have lost something. Nothing else is fun right now. I tried Alien Isolation today, and then after 10 minutes one of the characters had the german dub of Sheperd and here I am again, thinking about and grieving over a virtual character like it was a real person. And even more grieving about my Kaidan who must stay alone now. I had a gay relationship and I think it was really great and not cheesy in any way.

 

Because I'm totally late for the whole series, I got all the Singleplayer DLC right from the start. I read a lot when to play Citadel and chose to do it right before Cerberus HQ and I think it fits perfectly in that spot. I know a lot of people complained about partying in a time of war, but as we experience everyday right here on this earth, life goes on and we play games while in other countries a war is going on. It's human nature to not constantly think about everything bad. And especially from the point of view that everyone knew that this could be their last moments together, I thought it fit even more perfectly. Maybe I'm lucky because I could choose when to play it, I think when I got it a year after the game ended it wouldn't have been the same experience.

 

In the finale, I decided for the synthesis ending because I thought it would fit best for "my" Shepards way of life (full paragon). I'm still ok with that ending because everyone else could live in peace from now on.I also checked the other endings out, especially the destruction ending with him breathing - I'm teary eyed even thinking about it. I cried like a baby when the old man speaks to the child in the epilouge. Another story about Shepard? Shut up and take my money! But since I read that ME4 will have no connection I'm simply sad because this great journey is over now.

 

It also shows that making games is an art, even if the mainstram media still wants it to stay in a greasy corner. I mean, when something can touch you so deeply, how couldn't it be art? The music, the scenery, the characters. Everything. For me that is perfection, even with some things that could have been better, you cannot serve everyone. 

 

As I said, I don't know if I'm in the right place. I just wanted to share my thoughts and feelings with you guys and maybe some of you experienced the same. I don't know what I'm looking for, maybe some comfort. Maybe I just needed to write all that off my heart so I can begin to let go, even though I know that I can't right now.

 

Thanks for listening!

 

 

[Vazgen]

I had the same feeling when I finished the series for the first time. ME changed my views on gaming and helped me to cope with stress in real life. It's part of my life now and I don't regret a single minute spent on each of these three games

[Mister J]

I know how you feel, I really do...

 

But it gets better in time though... well to me it did...

[themikefest]

Now play the games again and make different decisions from the ones you made in the previous playthrough and see the difference.

[rapscallioness]

Hey, welcome!

 

Don't worry, many ppl have felt as you do. It does get better in time. I do find that Bioware games in general are some of the best games out there cuz they really get to those emotions, and pull you into the world. You care abt it and the characters populating it.

 

I know the next ME won't have Shep and all that, but just think of it as a new adventure. You have the chance to meet new characters to fall in love with, or fall in hate with. lol! Including your PC. After the hell we went through with the Reapers, it will be nice to have a crisp, fresh beginning to another adventure.

 

I also think playing the Citadel dlc right before Cerberus HQ is the perfect spot for it.

[Mcfly616]

Great first post OP. It was a great journey. Kudos to you for choosing the ending that most fit you.

 

 

 

I'm glad we're moving on to a new adventure. Shepards story was a classic from beginning to end and I'll be able to revisit it whenever I want.

[SilJeff]

I am glad you enjoyed it! I fell in love the first time I played it and nothing feels the same as playing Mass Effect.

 

And this is coming from a guy who first played the trilogy before the Extended Cut existed

[N0rke]

I know exactly how you're feeling. Don't worry, the feeling fades in time and you'll start to feel normal again. I'm glad you liked the ending. Personally what made letting go so hard for me was the fact that I felt so unfulfilled by how the story ended.

 

I think what makes letting go of Mass Effect so hard is that no other game can really fill that void. No other game really lets you build a character over 3 games and 90+ hours of gameplay.

[Xamalion]

Thank you very much for all your comments. It makes me already feel better, knowing I'm not alone with this. I was actually beginning to think I'm a real weirdo.

 

Well, another playthrough is in my mind, but not right now. I know it sounds cheesy, but in the moment it would feel like a betrayal of everything I've done and achieved with this version of Shep. And of course I want to do all the bad stuff, going full renegade the next time.

 

I also don't want to pre-bash ME4. I know it can become something as beautiful and stunning like this series. I'm just not ready for letting something new inside which has the title Mass Effect written on it. When some time has paased and it will be released I'm sure I will be totally excited for it. All I hope for is, that Bioware knows what a great legacy they have created and that the footsteps are really big.

 

And yes N0rke, I think you are right. The word unfulfilled describes it very well. It's so sad that after all you've done the character has to make the final sacrifice for everyone else. But on the other hand, isn't that what life as a hero is all about? I think it's pure genius of Bioware to actually let you live that life and then coming to an end and within the final minutes you realize that there is absolutely no escape from death. I will never forget that moment. It was such a punch in the guts, my heart skipped a beat and instantly there was a lump in my throat. There it was, the inevitable end. And like the hero himself you didn't see that coming. You were so deep into everything that when it was finally there it hit you right between the eyes.

 

It is such a different experience to film/television. I grieved over many beloved characters in my life, most recently about the 11th Doctor - even though Capaldi is really cool. But there is a difference if you only watch and consume, or if you can actually control and choose. The ending of Bioshock Infinite was similar, but not nearly anything like this.

 

Thank you all again, and I'm looking forward to interesting discussions/conversations in this forum.

 

edit: sorry, my workplace PC didn't use the paragraphs right and there was this wall of text.

Modifié par Xamalion, 07 octobre 2014 - 05:27 .

[ZipZap2000]

Time and a new game plenty of both on the way.

[Ajensis]

You're definitely in the right place many people around here will understand how you feel - or at least be able to share your passion for this series

 

Whether Mass Effect is art is a question I'm loath to dive into. It's got a lot of flaws and clichés, but in the end it's an extraordinary experience, so does it really matter? If your friends tell you again that a game shouldn't affect you so much, just ask them whether they'd say the same of a painting or a book or a movie. More things in this world making a deep impression on you is just better in my eyes!

 

As other posters have said already, you'll start to feel better after a while. It's just fresh right now, but don't worry, real life will resume shortly

 

Anyway, welcome to the club of Mass Effect lovers! Now join us in an excruciating wait for the next game

 

Edit:

 

But there is a difference if you only watch and consume, or if you can actually control and choose.

 

Indeed. There's so much potential in the video game genre and I think people are starting to realise it with games like The Last of Us (even though it has even less choice than Bioshock Infinite, the emotional impact is still remarkably higher compared to e.g. a TV show). Hopefully it's only going to get even better in the future, not only for Bioware games but for all games

 

It's a good time to be a video game nerd

[NM_Che56]

Same feeling.  After ME3, I didn't really want to play anything else for a little bit.  Wasn't really interested. LOL

[Nitrocuban]

Play some ME3MP, that helps a lot to make peace with ME1-3 and maybe, one day you can get back to play other games just as you used to before ME hit you right in the feels.

[Pohleetakal]

I think it is wonderful that you were so absorbed into the experience, and I wholly understand that feeling of feeling a bit lost. For me that is all down to Bioware + their stories/worlds/characters, which is why as I type this I can still remember my discussion with Garrus on Earth in ME3, or meeting Wrex in ME1.

 

I do agree with the post above mine, play the multiplayer, I ended up REALLY enjoying it, and ultimately you will have another Mass Effect game in which to lose yourself.

 

I also romanced Kaidan with my male Shepherd, and I agree it just felt right + it was another thing that was staying with me as I headed towards the end of the game, and afterwards.  

[Dar'Nara]

Greetings! Just to add onto what others have said, It's perfectly fine to be so immersed in these games, Everyone has their own experience from the Mass Effect Universe, and it affects them in so many varying ways so everyone gets their own slice of the emotional pie so to speak so i am glad you are someone who's had such intense experiences like alot of other people here. I sure do as well!

 

I think too it shows that the developers in the series also cared a great deal to give us such deep, emotional experience possibilities and i have no doubt that such things will continue on in future Mass Effect titles. The ending of ME3 may have been a balls-up to some, but you know what? Alot of people too were quite content with what they chose and i think that in itself is beautiful. Sure, its been said Shepard wont be a main part of the next game but that doesnt mean the rest of the Mass Effect Universe is going to *poof* and dissapear. Each part of the Mass Effect games has a place with us all. For some its certain characters and for others its the smaller things and i am certain that BioWare knows that and will continue to give us spectacular content with that in mind.

 

I'm right with you and some others too in that after playing the games, everything else seems not worth playing, heck i have dreams about these games! I also notice (At least with me) its because that emotional connection isnt there in other games. All that time spent around a crew you come to know and love and would gladly help out. Thats also why i am sure BioWare wont abandon that entirely as it is clear as day the connection the games have with people and to just chuck it all wouldnt fit BioWare at all (Well, unless The Illusive Man makes an appearance in real life and messes it all up )

[StarcloudSWG]

Try this next time.

 

http://www.nexusmods...ect3/mods/265/?

 

It's JohnP's alternate MEHEM. It cuts out a lot of crap from both the MEHEM mod and the original ending, and if you choose Destroy, you get a proper closure to the series.

 

This is, in my opinion, the way ME 3 *should* have ended the first time around. Pity Mac Walters and Casey Hudson wrote the endings by themselves and didn't follow the peer review process that every other writer on the team had to go through.

[JenMaxon]

Same feeling.  After ME3, I didn't really want to play anything else for a little bit.  Wasn't really interested. LOL

I'd recommend that.  MP was lots of fun and people are still playing.

[Oni Changas]

About 90% of us felt this annoyance or pain. Sometimes doing a series run with different choices. And if not for multiplayer, this game would be sitting in a gamestop discount bin or snapped in half in my garbage.

[Iakus]

It's funny, I was left feeling empty and sad after ME3 as well, but for entirely different reasons.  I found it a wholly unworthy ending.  All the choices had ugly, ugly connotations to me,  Things which my Shepard was forced to participate in, and die for as the galaxy was held hostage.  Everything my Shepard worked so hard for over the course of three games was undone over the last few minutes.  I was hit by powerful feeling.  But these were negative emotions.  Not the cathartic feeling they seemed to be shooting for.  By the end of the game, it wasn't my story, or my character anymore.  Shepard had been hijacked by someone else.

 

ME4 not having anything to do with Shepard is something I find to be a good thing.  He's ruined for me.  He's gone from Commander Shepard to Walter White. Even if he lived, my Shepard would probably eat a bullet from the guilt of what he had done to the galaxy "for the greater good"

If you're looking for good, well-crafted rpgs, I'd suggest trying any of Bioware's earlier games:  KOTOR, Jade Empire, Dragon Age: Origins, Even the Baldur's Gate games if you're not afraid of complex D&D rulesets andPC gaming.

Try this next time.

 

http://www.nexusmods...ect3/mods/265/?

 

It's JohnP's alternate MEHEM. It cuts out a lot of crap from both the MEHEM mod and the original ending, and if you choose Destroy, you get a proper closure to the series.

 

This is, in my opinion, the way ME 3 *should* have ended the first time around. Pity Mac Walters and Casey Hudson wrote the endings by themselves and didn't follow the peer review process that every other writer on the team had to go through.

 

The main reason I don't go with that version is I can't stand Glowjob and his Insane Troll Logic, so I banish him from ever appearing before me.  Though I totally respect wanting to keep all the ending options for those who want them.

[q5tyhj]

OP- you're not alone, nor is it that peculiar. I often feel similar when I finish reading a really good book or series. Its a sign that you were mentally immersed and emotionally involved, which is usually a good thing, and indicative of a good/successful story (and there is a sense in which, regardless of any other merits, an immersive story is automatically a good one). You literally don't want it to end, and when it does, you feel a sense of loss. You've been engaged in this fictional universe, got attached to the characters, places, and atmosphere, and its a little bit hard to disengage.  As others have said, that'll fade. You'll get interested in something else. But also take the time to appreciate this feeling for what it represents- you've had a great experience, one that actually got through and affected you.

 

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BTW, some of you guys are just shameless- taking this thread as an opportunity to further grind your axe/beat your dead horse/chew your sour grapes about the ending, when that has absolutely nothing to do with the OP. Smh. 

[Cheviot]

I know them feels, OP.  Took me a couple of weeks to enjoy games again after finishing the trilogy.  Everything I played seemed one-note and I just didn't get the connection that I did with Shepard and his crew.  As q5tyhj says, it's a good thing, even though it might not feel that way right now.  When a game or a book knocks you for six like that, you will cherish it more than other similar things, because of the connection forged between you and the work.  Your best course of action is to start looking for something that'll affect you in a similar way, though that sounds crazy, but it's how I started enjoying games again. Find something with a story that engages you. For me, it was Red Dead Redemption, but for others it might be Dragon Age, or Final Fantasy.

[Oni Changas]

OP- you're not alone, nor is it that peculiar. I often feel similar when I finish reading a really good book or series. Its a sign that you were mentally immersed and emotionally involved, which is usually a good thing, and indicative of a good/successful story (and there is a sense in which, regardless of any other merits, an immersive story is automatically a good one). You literally don't want it to end, and when it does, you feel a sense of loss. You've been engaged in this fictional universe, got attached to the characters, places, and atmosphere, and its a little bit hard to disengage.  As others have said, that'll fade. You'll get interested in something else. But also take the time to appreciate this feeling for what it represents- you've had a great experience, one that actually got through and affected you.

 

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BTW, some of you guys are just shameless- taking this thread as an opportunity to further grind your axe/beat your dead horse/chew your sour grapes about the ending, when that has absolutely nothing to do with the OP. Smh. 

Oh, another "dey dont leik it cuz dey dont understand or want to leeve der shepard" guy. How cute!

 

*shamelessly whines about whining about whining*

[Khemikael]

Welcome to the Bioware forum (or as I call it: ME3 PVP Multiplayer)

This can be pretty much a war zone around here but I hope you'll enjoy your stay.

 

Just because ME3 is a video game, it doesn't mean the feels you got from it are fictional. They're as real as any feel you can have when watching a movie or reading a book.

[Xamalion]

Guys please, everyone can talk free about their feelings here, even those who don't like the ending at all. So please stop blaming each other and hug. 

 

Everyone has another way of dealing with it. I totally understand people like Iakus and I really appreciate that point of view. Of course I noticed the heavy shitstorm about the ending in 2012, but I couldn't join the discussion because ME 1+2 were still sleeping in my Steam account. I didn't know what everyone was so enraged about. 

 

But honestly, for a second the same thoughts crossed my mind when my game was over. But then I decided that this is not the way I want to see it. It is their story, and they have every right to end it the way they want to. That it doesn't make us very happy, well I think they didn't see it coming that those character grew to our hearts that way. What I read in almost all your posts is, that almost none of you (including myself) had ever such an experience in a game. And I'm sure the writers thought it would be such a heroic ending for that character, making the final sacrifice. And if we are honest, for every other medium (book, film, TV) I guess we would have applauded because the death of the main character would also prevent us from milking the cow forever until even the fans would turn their backs on it. I think it's time to give those guys a break, they surely wouldn't have written that if they knew what was coming. And I don't want to imagine the feelings they've gone through when they realized how many people were upset about their work. I think most of you know how shitty it feels when your hard work isn't appreciated. I guess most of us had or still have an ******* as boss. You don't want to be that guy for others.

 

And though I appreciate the modding community in other games (Portal e.g.), that's nothing for me here. As I said, it is their story. I can't change it when a character in a book, series or film dies and I won't do it here either. I accept whatever end they wanted for that character, for the reason alone that I respect their work.

 

AnaTheTurian, thank you very much for your dream confession.  The first two nights were indeed very ME loaded.

 

I will check out the MP part, but as of this writing I always spared MP parts of games because I'm not the MP guy. But maybe ME can also change my view on that.

 

I also wanted to thank you for all the recommendations. I played KOTOR 1+2 multiple times a few years ago. I still love 1, but part 2 and especially the ending, well that was really crap imho.  To disctract me I started Dragon Age yesterday. I started a few years ago but didn't finish it. So this time I will go through the Ultimate Edition and then Part 2 right after.

 

Well after all, I'm really getting better everyday.  I think I will give Amanda Ripley another try this evening, checking out the black box of the Nostromo and hiding under tables trying to avoid getting spiked up by a tail.

[q5tyhj]

Oh, another "dey dont leik it cuz dey dont understand or want to leeve der shepard" guy. How cute!

 

*shamelessly whines about whining about whining*

Not quite, but nice try. The OP is clearly not another whine-about-the-ending post- so taking this thread as an opportunity to further belly-ache about the ending, talk about MEHEM, etc when its totally off-topic, is shameless. And I know this is difficult for some of you to comprehend, but sometimes people want to talk about mass effect without engaging in or listening to a bunch of complaining RE a 10-15 minute sequence in a video game trilogy that takes around 100 hours to fully complete.