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[Markucio]

I am slightly confused in exactly things will work in terms of the Keep and how it is going to track my previous characters.

 

To begin with, I just want to state that I'm familiar with the pretense of the origins account tracking my achievements from the first two games in the Keep. The thing that is confusing me at the moment is character porting. I have a playthrough (inclusive of DLC) from the first game and a playthrough from the second game. Having not been in the Beta for Keep, I don't fully understand what I need to do to have my characters brought forward. Do I need to do anything specific? I play on Xbox.

 

Incidentally, looking at my BSN account, it doesn't mention any of the DLC I've played on DA:O. I borrowed the Ultimate Edition from a friend for DLC, but have a digital download of the game, does that make a difference?

 

Any info would be appreciated.

[LonewandererD]

They can be brought into the keep via your origin/bioware account but it won't record all details like faces only fundamental things like race, gender and decisions. If your worried about certain details not being brought forward the ones that mattered can be completed/fixed in the keep. So you can bring your characters over and fill in the blanks or tweak them as you see fit or you can do it like me and make whole new characters in the keep. If your concerned with bringing them across, write down all the details about them and recreate them in the keep, it will have the same end result. Things like appearance and personality will be lost but it has been stated that appearance and maybe personality can be redone if and when the character is brought back into the series.

 

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[Panda]

You need to get your characters to social bioware. Go there to your account -> my games -> player profiles. You need to activate your and sync your profiles if they aren't shown. It can be confusing and take time, I spent couple days with it. When you have you press your game there and it should show your characters. These characters get imported to Keep. If your characters aren't shown there you need to go to your games, check that you are logged in to same account in the game as you will use in keep and social bioware and go to resave your characters so go into their games and resave. You might need to use unequip -> save -> equip -> save tactic.

 

Your characters are synched to keep (at least at the moment) from social bioware. You will recreate your world states though so you only get name, character portrait, achievements etc. things to keep, not actual saves.

[Markucio]

O.k., so I can safely assume then that my previous choices and such will be tracked? I don't have to do anything specific in the previous games to get keep to follow? Like uploading my characters to a specific place for example? Also, should I be concerned that my DAO DLC doesn't seem to be listed on my account?

[Dubya75]

The Keep is going to pull in any game save information from your BSN account that is available.

For both DAO and DAI you can select which Hero/Champion you want to use for any given world state and it will then import the plot points.

 

There is no need to worry about anything, be it missing DLC or whatnot. You can fill in all the blanks in the Keep itself, and even modify choices to your liking.

[Markucio]

I've had a look at BSN and done the syncing stuff and all my previous characters are present. Thanks for the help guys.

[dutch_gamer]

The Keep is going to pull in any game save information from your BSN account that is available.
For both DAO and DAI you can select which Hero/Champion you want to use for any given world state and it will then import the plot points.
 
There is no need to worry about anything, be it missing DLC or whatnot. You can fill in all the blanks in the Keep itself, and even modify choices to your liking.

No, no, no. The Keep is actually not pulling save game information from BSN at all. All the Keep pulls from BSN is an achievement list, race, gender, name of your character, origin chosen, class and image file.

Everyone regardless of pulling information from BSN or not has to manually input all decisions they made in the previous games. However, the narration by Varric will input default canon decisions if you don't interrupt the cinematic to input your own decisions.

The developers have explained the above in the official stickied Keep thread in the Scuttlebutt forum.

[Dubya75]

No, no, no. The Keep is actually not pulling save game information from BSN at all. All the Keep pulls from BSN is an achievement list, race, gender, name of your character, origin chosen, class and image file.

Everyone regardless of pulling information from BSN or not has to manually input all decisions they made in the previous games. However, the narration by Varric will input default canon decisions if you don't interrupt the cinematic to input your own decisions.

The developers have explained the above in the official stickied Keep thread in the Scuttlebutt forum.

 

Well.... hang a sign around my neck that reads "CONFUSED".

If this is true, then there is absolutely no point in importing anything from previous games, because it was all about the choices we made to begin with.

 

Hawke and the Warden will still be referred to by their title or last name.

No facial appearances will be imported into Inquisition.

Achievements can't possibly have any relevance.

 

What is the difference (or better said, the advantage) of importing useless information from BSN over not having anything to import if it means you have to manually select every choice anyway?

 

No.....this does not seem right to me.

[Icefalcon]

Well.... hang a sign around my neck that reads "CONFUSED".

If this is true, then there is absolutely no point in importing anything from previous games, because it was all about the choices we made to begin with.

 

Hawke and the Warden will still be referred to by their title or last name.

No facial appearances will be imported into Inquisition.

Achievements can't possibly have any relevance.

 

What is the difference (or better said, the advantage) of importing useless information from BSN over not having anything to import if it means you have to manually select every choice anyway?

 

No.....this does not seem right to me.

As far as appearance goes it was mentioned, by Cameron Lee if I recall correctly when Hawke's cameo was revealed, that Bioware were taking steps to make sure ours Hawke's looked like our Hawke's so we will likely get that at least. which is cool I think

 

Hawke and the Warden being referred to as that?

I'm not really sure how you expected anything else? If we can enter our character names in the Keep then they may show up in text but for speech purposes the generic is the only option we were going to get as far as I can see.

 

Importing achievements? I'm guessing here but it may be how it picks up some things which get mentioned in passing dialogue if you have the right achievement.

[Eri]

A very good point has been brought up here. I'm intrigued.

I thought that it was just the player character's appearance and bio, etc that was being uploaded to the keep, but as has been pointed out, the Warden isn't going to appear (although the other bio information may still be relevant to the game), and Hawke will be able to be created in the CC for their appearance (so again, only their bio needed?). Seems a lot of effort to go through (uploading characters) if it's just the bio of the pc's that are being used..

[Dubya75]

A very good point has been brought up here. I'm intrigued.

I thought that it was just the player character's appearance and bio, etc that was being uploaded to the keep, but as has been pointed out, the Warden isn't going to appear (although the other bio information may still be relevant to the game), and Hawke will be able to be created in the CC for their appearance (so again, only their bio needed?). Seems a lot of effort to go through (uploading characters) if it's just the bio of the pc's that are being used..

 

Exactly!

[Icefalcon]

A very good point has been brought up here. I'm intrigued.

I thought that it was just the player character's appearance and bio, etc that was being uploaded to the keep, but as has been pointed out, the Warden isn't going to appear (although the other bio information may still be relevant to the game), and Hawke will be able to be created in the CC for their appearance (so again, only their bio needed?). Seems a lot of effort to go through (uploading characters) if it's just the bio of the pc's that are being used..

Maybe, and this is a big guess. the CC reads Hawke's appearance from Keep and then you get a limited ability to tinker with it. Who knows really, Hawke's cameo is being played pretty close to the chest by devs

[Eri]

Maybe, and this is a big guess. the CC reads Hawke's appearance from Keep and then you get a limited ability to tinker with it. Who knows really, Hawke's cameo is being played pretty close to the chest by devs

Possibly, but that still leaves the question of the Warden's appearance (as in the profile pic), considering that is the only part of the profile that can not be made as a choice like any other option in the Keep (the rest of the bio wouldn't be a problem). Will we one day get a cc for our Warden, I wonder? Perhaps in Dragon Age 4..

 

Perhaps originally the ability to upload saves was meant as a way to fill the story choices you'd made as well; as in, it may have been the plan but because of the whole business with choices being flagged wrong (or buggy) in both games, that aspect never came to fruition? This would make more sense to me, to be honest.

 

However one thing to remember is that the Keep has been created for all Dragon Age games that are released from now on - drawing upon the data we've put in so far and that which gets added as we play Inquisition, so even though uploading those saves may seem kind of derpy now, perhaps it could have greater significance in future games (just a shot in the dark here) or with future updates. Or maybe it's just a way to keep all the info together in one place (however irrelevant some parts may prove to be)? Hmm..

[Icefalcon]

You raise some good points

It will be interesting once we get the Keep and DAI to see how much of what goes into the Keep pops up in the game

[Sylvius the Mad]

Well.... hang a sign around my neck that reads "CONFUSED".
If this is true, then there is absolutely no point in importing anything from previous games, because it was all about the choices we made to begin with.

That is the whole point of the Keep. You manually record your choices.

Nothing is done for you.

[Gill Kaiser]

Mark my words, the absolute most that the Keep will do with regards to altering the appearance of Hawke is to set Hawke's appearance to the default male or female if that's what you used. Anyone expecting anything more is fooling themselves, it wouldn't be tenable with the change in engine and CC.

[Arkevilex]

The only thing synced from your bsn character profile is the name/gender/class and profile picture. As for Hawke customization, that will most likely be done within Inquisition. Bioware wants to make sure your Hawke is your Hawke. Too many changes in the CC variables and options render any customizations you made to your Hawke moot. If they were able to do direct character imports like in previous games (which is pretty much impossible because of engine upgrade), we would no doubt end up with an alien looking creature instead of what we desired. 

[boissiere]

The only thing synced from your bsn character profile is the name/gender/class and profile picture. As for Hawke customization, that will most likely be done within Inquisition. Bioware wants to make sure your Hawke is your Hawke. Too many changes in the CC variables and options render any customizations you made to your Hawke moot. If they were able to do direct character imports like in previous games (which is pretty much impossible because of engine upgrade), we would no doubt end up with an alien looking creature instead of what we desired.

 

If only we could create an asari character for DA I... (just kidding)... Imagine as asari inquisitor, that would be so great!

[Shahadem]

I wonder if the Keep will allow some decisions that you could only make after modding the game.

 

Such as making my City Elf the Queen of Ferelden. Female City Elf. Not sure how to allow a male elf to marry Alistair while still being a male elf.

[Eri]

I wonder if the Keep will allow some decisions that you could only make after modding the game.

 

Such as making my City Elf the Queen of Ferelden. Female City Elf. Not sure how to allow a male elf to marry Alistair while still being a male elf.

I highly doubt it. Firstly, their are too many variables to consider with all the possible modifications that could be made. Secondly, I don't see Bioware supporting choices outside of the ones they themselves created in the game. Lastly, it wouldn't make sense for something they aren't planning on referencing or making content on in their games (since it technically has nothing to do with the official content they created). On all three accounts it's opening a can of worms, and would require too much time (and so money) to work on.