Actually, and I'm like 99% sure on this, you can squash the problem of people referring to you as the "Herald of Andraste" pretty quickly. You can choose whether they call you that or just Inquisitor.
That would be a big relief. "Inquisitor" might be a loaded term in RL, but that doesn't automatically transfer to Thedas, and it actually means something I can identify with.
Are you talking about the Andraste's Promise bit? I don't think that the sign says that. It doesn't even have letters on it, it is just a pole.
If that isn't what you're talking about, could you be more specific?
It's this quote from the Chant saying the Maker will return when the whole world is converted to his faith.
It's this quote from the Chant saying the Maker will return when the whole world is converted to his faith.
I think this "might" be a slight overreaction to a topic the OP finds to be a sensitive one.
Well.....yeah, it probably was. Sorry about that, but I didn't know we could define the heraldry we take out into the world. That's rather incompatible with being forced to represent a specific faith.
I admit to some sensitivity. I've been on and off worrying about this ever since the game's title was published, and the little things add up together with 2+ years of worrying.
I know, I was kidding. I just think that we don't know the whole context of the story to address this. I think the OP as several options:
1. play the game and see the story for yourself
2. Not play the game and wait for reviews
3. Not play the game and see spoilers of what happens on a wiki
4. Not play the game and ask a friend who has
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but what if it ends with the maker is a lie?
Leliana is alive. The maker is real.
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Dalish Hunter (First) - Dalish
Carta Dwarf - Up to the player
Qunari Mercenary - Vashoth/Up to the player
Out of the four race/class combos there's only one with an explicitly Andrastian background. I think you're worrying too much. Now I understand your reservations, but from a story perspective does it make sense to bite the hand that feeds you? You may not care for the institutionalized human religion, but they chose you to be an icon on their mission to restore order to the world. Enemy of my enemy and all that. Restoring order is the mission. That you're spreading the human religion is a symptomatic consequence, and not exactly the PC's mission.
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Leliana is alive. The maker is real.
Not really. I'm pretty sure bards are trained to fake their death.
Leliana is alive. The maker is real.
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@Ieldra: I absolutely understand.
There are several things I will find very groan worthy if/when they occur. Yours just tends to be all encompassing for the storyline (as opposed to a scenario, character or single event) - so I can see why it would bother you.
Though I'll be more "Chantry neutral" - I'm very hopeful that players who want to can pursue an opposition to the Chantry or even express all out vitriol.
New Video, does another pole with a completely different bit of history text. Think there is another one with out VO. The thing he stabs doesn't looks super chantry either. The history lesson seems to be about some Dalish statues. So yeah, that is just a collectionist non-quest related thing that is probably through out the whole game and is one way we build up are Codex.
I feel like that isn't a good enough justification to not like the story, that was one quest.
One of MY biggest concerns - is that time period Orlais is clearly in.
Orlais is easily in 1600s or 1700s in the terms of architecture shown here... but is easily WAY behind in science (the Masked Empire has a discussion about the discovery of 0 - which was discovered in India and South America - but made it to Europe way before this type of architecture - around the 12th century)
Then - of course - is the rest of technology that doesn't seem (yet) to match the 17th/18th centuries.
My instincts have been that this is Dragon Effect 3 for some time now, I know that isn't what you want to hear but that's been my feeling after a certain point, especially given the accelerated violence/apocalypse thing.
I can understand the OP's concern even if I do not share it. However, the quote, to me, was just detailing the excuse people used to attack the Dales all those years ago. I must admit, even though I do not Share OP's feelings about religion I am looking forward to the various options about how to deal with it. I know for a fact that one of my mages (Qunari or human and likely Agnostic) will actually encourage people to think of them as 'The Herald of Andraste' since that kind of blind faith can be easily manipulated. Of course they will do it for the good of all, or at least that's what they will tell themselves. I also know that I will play characters that believes in the Maker and will ruthlessly squash any attempts to refer to them as 'The Herald': "I am not here to solve all your problems for you, the maker gave you hands, feet and a mind, use them to better the world."
One of MY biggest concerns - is that time period Orlais is clearly in.
Orlais is easily in 1600s or 1700s in the terms of architecture shown here... but is easily WAY behind in science (the Masked Empire has a discussion about the discovery of 0 - which was discovered in India and South America - but made it to Europe way before this type of architecture - around the 12th century)
Then - of course - is the rest of technology that doesn't seem (yet) to match the 17th/18th centuries.
@AlanC9: Absolutely - I'm not freaking out over it, I just think that architecture is a very mathematical discipline.
I would actually be extremely pleased if Orlais IS advanced as 1600's France - that would make an insanely different atmosphere than Ferelden (which seems stuck in the 1200's)
What I really think should be prevalent is the amount of magi-tech through runecraft (interesting that there's a machine that repairs runes in one of the vids) - runes become the technology of Thedas would be REALLY interesting. (Heating Runes warming homes, stoves, etc. - Cooling Runes allowing refigeration)
One of MY biggest concerns - is that time period Orlais is clearly in.
Orlais is easily in 1600s or 1700s in the terms of architecture shown here... but is easily WAY behind in science (the Masked Empire has a discussion about the discovery of 0 - which was discovered in India and South America - but made it to Europe way before this type of architecture - around the 12th century)
Then - of course - is the rest of technology that doesn't seem (yet) to match the 17th/18th centuries.
Yeah, I just couldn't stop laughing at the Inquisitor's helmet that is armor from a time period specifically designed for dealing with bullets. The curved nature of the helmet brim is there to catch and divert the bullets when they connect. It's not just a funny looking hat or there for aesthetic purely reasons. Yet, Dragon Age has no guns. So, why would they have developed that very specialized and impractical armor style if they're still in their knights with lances and primarily archery stage?
I'll grant that it's a very unique aesthetic, but makes no sense in greater context of why those styles developed as they did. Though, I guess Prosper had some kind of crossbow gun in MotA so maybe the Orlesians do have guns? It all feels very flimsy.
Majority of my PC's will be pro-chantry, only differing in how devout they will be.
My Dalish Archer will be the most devout of all of course, and I will delight if it is possible to tear and bury Dalish culture, more so by the hand of one of their own. Mwahahaha.
*cough*
So, uh, yeah....
@nightwolf667: Well - let's look at magic and shields in DA:I. Magic now rebounds off shields - so those helms could easily do something quite similar.
It won't happen that way in the game to be certain - but in a "story" - the magical bolt might not find purchase on a curved helm and simply curve off the helm and whiz beyond the head of the wearer.
I think that would be an absolutely unique and ingenious concept for technology on Thedas and how it accounts for magic.
The faith element in the game is realistic, but I really hope I am allowed to play against it. My Dalish elf loathes the Chantry, the Maker and just about every aspect of the Human religion. I think the only shemlens he ever came close to trusting were Duncan and Alistair. And I think his trust of Duncan came pretty much post-Ostagar.
I also have a Cousland rogue who is basically atheist. He's a firm believer that his brother should have better equipment over prayers. He's pretty rude with the chantry people,too, and thinks Leliana more than a bit touched. He's told her as much.
As for my Mage? Oh my gosh, I think he would have happily joined Anders in burning down the Chantry if he had crossed his path in Kirkwall. Huge chip on his shoulder, that boy. 
I've only played one human warrior who gained the Templar skill and was very devout.
I think that quest is more codex entry Thedas history gathering rather than showing support to the Chantry. DAI is based in Orlais and Ferelden so apart from a handful of dalish and chasind clans the White Chantry has those places sown up.
I think there might be some quests that gain us Chantry support but they'll be optional
I'll be wary of getting invested in Bioware franchises again in the future. It would be a shame. I love the world and the stories told in it. But if Bioware continues to define my protagonists for me in ways I hate, ultimately they're goling to lose me.
ummm you have posted 21,614 times in these forums, you a far to invested in everything Bioware, your not going anywhere.
Just a brief look at your join date and the times you posted means you would have averaged about 12 posts a day....for 5 years....
hate DAI or not my moneys on you not going anywhere
I just watched the new gameplay video.
I've always had concerns about being forced to be supportive of southern Thedas' dominant religion, ever since the game's title was announced.
Then there was this "Herald of Andraste" business. Even if I can roleplay against it, I'd dislike spending the whole game detesting what other people call me.
Now it appears every time I claim an area, I'll put down a sign inscribed with a line that easily makes it into the top 3 of my reasons why I dislike this religion. Apparently, I'll help spread the faith whether I want it or not. Even if it's just symbolism, the message doesn't lose any impact.
Well, there's no way to be polite about this. If this happens, DAI will be a disaster of ME3-like proportions for me personally. And since this will be the second time in a row Bioware has attached messages I detest to my character without giving me any choice about it, I'll be wary of getting invested in Bioware franchises again in the future. It would be a shame. I love the world and the stories told in it. But if Bioware continues to define my protagonists for me in ways I hate, ultimately they're goling to lose me.
From one moment to the other, I've changed from pleasant anticipation to trepidation. This is all too much like the ME3 story...
I would have to agree with you to a point. I know it's just a game but being forced to be some "religious" person is annoying. I am an Anti-theist in real life to boot.
I had no issues in past games, it was Leliana that was the religious nut and such. I do not want to represent religion, made up or not, in a game. I don't mind it being IN the game, it is part of the lore, but it would be bad if they actually made the story around it and that you as the protagonist fight for it or something like that.
Hell, playing a mage you should be against it, considering the templars and so on.
Please don't tell me the "Inquisition" really is a religious one.
Perhaps I should name my player "Torquemada" and burn some people in the name of god (Andraste or whatever).
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