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[frankf43]

Given that the causes of the events that lead up to the Exalted March against the Dales are still highly disputed and not at all clear, there might well have been a very good reason for it.

 

It might well have been self defense in the face of Elven aggression. And if you are being threatened, then it only makes sense to ensure your enemy is left in no fit state to ever threaten you again.

 

Alternatively, the Exalted March could well have been based on entirely political reasons, with the Andrastean faith just used to give it a faint gloss of respectability. In which case, blame the rulers an policiticians who twisted it, not the religion itself.

 

And, c'mon, you say you're "not against religion" yet are completely opposed to the Andrastean faith based on things no different from that done in the name of pretty much every religion in human history?

 

There is never a good reason to destroy a whole Nation and then force it's people to live in sub-severance or to wander constantly to avoid your forces.

 

It might be that I just don't know as much about the history of real world religions as I do about the Chantry i don't know. I don't want to go down the root of the pros and cons of real world religion though. 

[frankf43]

I didn't want to join the Cerberus terrorist organisation during ME2. Glad I didn't rage quit when i found out, I'd have missed out on one of the best games I've ever played. 

I am reminded that throughout that game, everytime someone said "WTF Shep, you're a terrorist now?" I had the option of saying "Hell No!"

 

People in the world of Thedas have heard that the Chantry has decared the Inquisitor the Herald of Andraste. You may be uncomfortable with that title, just as Jaime Lannister despises being called Kingslayer, but people are going to call you that. Personally I think it'll be role play gold to play a character that hates the notion as much as some people in this thread do.

 

I'm a staunch atheist myself but I'll be playign an Andrastian on my first PT and a complete despier of the Chantry on my second. BioWare isn;t going to force anyone to be an Andrastian, and I can imagine a huge number of options you will have in game to rp that position. 

I admire peoples devotion to their principles but if you choose not to play it because of a plot device thats in the "cut off nose to spite face" category imo.

It's about enjoyment and I wouldn't enjoy being the mouthpiece of the Chantry so why pay for something I won't enjoy.

[Ieldra]

I didn't want to join the Cerberus terrorist organisation during ME2. Glad I didn't rage quit when i found out, I'd have missed out on one of the best games I've ever played. 

I am reminded that throughout that game, everytime someone said "WTF Shep, you're a terrorist now?" I had the option of saying "Hell No!"
 
People in the world of Thedas have heard that the Chantry has decared the Inquisitor the Herald of Andraste. You may be uncomfortable with that title, just as Jaime Lannister despises being called Kingslayer, but people are going to call you that. Personally I think it'll be role play gold to play a character that hates the notion as much as some people in this thread do.
 
I'm a staunch atheist myself but I'll be playign an Andrastian on my first PT and a complete despier of the Chantry on my second. BioWare isn;t going to force anyone to be an Andrastian, and I can imagine a huge number of options you will have in game to rp that position. 

I admire peoples devotion to their principles but if you choose not to play it because of a plot device thats in the "cut off nose to spite face" category imo.

The thing is, by calling you Herald of Andraste you'll spread the faith by implication whenever you do something good, whether you want it or not. Basically, the Chantry has co-opted you to be their missionary. I can roleplay both ways, but having no choice about this has the potential of tainting the whole experience for me.

Basically, this means that the only way you can be against the Chantry and have that mean something is to be a assh*le to everyone. And that would send exactly the wrong message. And wouldn't be fun.

Gah. I'm reminded of this:

"I'm not the Messiah!"
"I say You are, Lord, and I should know. I've followed a few."

[Ceoldoren]

The issue is that people don't believe that, or that this "not being forced to support" may consist of a token line of displeasure and making you support the Chantry by implication anyway. I mean, like "You can roleplay against the Alliance in ME3". Yeah right. Not that this would've made sense in ME3 as it was, but when people heard this, it was before release and they believed there would be a meaningful way to do that while still following the main objective.

DA hasn't got a history like that, but it makes you wary, especially since the potential problem is much more virulent in DAI.

If the issue is that you don't believe, how is anyone here going to help make those fears go away ? None of us know more than you do, we can't tell you for certain that it's there. All we can say is they claimed you didn't have to support them.

 

if it really is such a huge issue, you may have to wait and find out after release. Because I'd hate for anyone to pay 60 bucks (Assuming your in states) for a game they won't even enjoy.

[KoorahUK]

The thing is, by calling you Herald of Andraste you'll spread the faith by implication whenever you do something good, whether you want it or not. Basically, the Chantry has co-opted you to be their missionary. I can roleplay both ways, but having no choice about this has the potential of tainting the whole experience for me.

Basically, this means that the only way you can be against the Chantry and have that mean something is to be a assh*le to everyone. And that would send exactly the wrong message.

Sure, I get that. 

I would be surprised if that was the case however, or you couldn't sabotage everything the Chantry may have hoped to achieve by doing that. That may not be obvious at the beginning but imagine the satisfaction if you managed to turn the tables ot the end? 

[Ieldra]

I would be surprised if that was the case however, or you couldn't sabotage everything the Chantry may have hoped to achieve by doing that. That may not be obvious at the beginning but imagine the satisfaction if you managed to turn the tables ot the end?

That would be awesome, granted. The problem is, dare I hope for that? The last time I did I was burned so badly that the pain still lingers.

Anyway, the biggest issue I raised in this thread turned out not to be one at all. So...perhaps a little positive thinking will help.

[XEternalXDreamsX]

Don't worry about it. I'm sure its not the case. Regardless, let's just say they forced it on a human character even if we deny it IC.. Bioware gives us alot of freedom and customization already. Lets be thankful for what we got, and we can be grateful it is not going happen anyway to boost our experience even more.

[Vox Draco]

I am not sure I got the original idea of the problem ... but ... I hated to be a Warden ever since I saw Duncan and his joining-Ritual...but hey, even than while forced into that whole thing by the story, I still enjoyed it.

 

Don't see why some invented religion should be a disaster of ME3 proportions ... (if the Maker shows up as a little kid wearing some hoodie, then we are having problems at hand, that's for sure though )

[XEternalXDreamsX]

I am not sure I got the original idea of the problem ... but ... I hated to be a Warden ever since I saw Duncan and his joining-Ritual...but hey, even than while forced into that whole thing by the story, I still enjoyed it.

Don't see why some invented religion should be a disaster of ME3 proportions ... (if the Maker shows up as a little kid wearing some hoodie, then we are having problems at hand, that's for sure though )

When Duncan did that to Jory, I thought it finally hit the fan and my character had better do the Joining even though I realize now that it was part of storyline. The only reason I thought it was an option the first time around was my Warden could express doubt. I guess it wasn't that bad considering we became a hero. If a kid, AKA Old God Child, shows up with some options at the end.. I will cry.. Not too much.. Just a tear.

[HTTP 404]

Fyi, in the latest video it was talked about that the banners can be changed.  I don't know what the other banners look like.

[Ieldra]

Fyi, in the latest video it was talked about that the banners can be changed.  I don't know what the other banners look like.

Yes, someone mentioned that. It's one of the things that alleviated my concern, since I don't think Bioware would give us banner options contradicting a canonical allegiance. While the styles are all from Andrastean nations (at least those I've seen are), we can have Tevinter-style decoration at Skyhold, and I think it was Cameron Lee who said the banners we take into the field would reflect the style we choose for Skyhold. 

 

So I think it's plausible we aren't forced to ally with any of the two Chantries. That still leaves the possibility open that we'll have to spread the faith by implication, but I actually don't think Bioware would set things up that way on purpose, especially not with the ability to play elves, dwarves and qunari. So what remains to be seen is if there are unintended side effects of this Herald of Andraste thing.

[Adhin]

Pretty sure in one of the past videos they mentioned 'Herald of Andraste' is something the player specifically picked to be called. I don't think that craps forced on you. They're also pretty good at, when giving you a choice like that, making it stick through out. Wish i could remember the video, or maybe it was a twitter comment they made about the more recently shown keep thing where the Barbarian wanted to fight the Herald of Andraste.

 

Or at least I hope so, really wish I could find that again. Hate when I remember something like that but can't find anything to back it up. It's enough to make you feel crazy delusional or something you know? Meh, oh well.

[Ieldra]

Pretty sure in one of the past videos they mentioned 'Herald of Andraste' is something the player specifically picked to be called. I don't think that craps forced on you. They're also pretty good at, when giving you a choice like that, making it stick through out. Wish i could remember the video, or maybe it was a twitter comment they made about the more recently shown keep thing where the Barbarian wanted to fight the Herald of Andraste.

 

Or at least I hope so, really wish I could find that again. Hate when I remember something like that but can't find anything to back it up. It's enough to make you feel crazy delusional or something you know? Meh, oh well.

Is there anyone who would be able to confirm this with a source? That would be really nice.

[Allan Schumacher]

Is there anyone who would be able to confirm this with a source? That would be really nice.

 

In the early going in any case, it's what people call you though you're free to say it's not true.  Obviously I'm not going to give away spoilers on what I do know, and I can actually only speak on maybe the first 10-15 hours of the game (due to the game being long, and my job this project involving much less "play the game." I'm actually looking forward to DAI release as a player because it'll probably be the first DA game I actually legitimately play after launch).

 

Reading the thread in its entirety, I can't speak definitively since I'm not you and I can't say for sure what things you are and are not explicitly okay with. Having said that, I am reasonably confident that I think you'll be okay with your character's agency in this regard (though I do hope it works really well for you).  Hopefully that helps assuage some fears about your character's views, even if you have to endure other people calling you the Herald from time to time.