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So Bioware I hear your character creation tools suck.


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Gandalf-the-Fabulous

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Ok Bioware we all know that your character creation tool in ME1 sucked, it was impossible to make a good looking male Shepard and the number of customization options was laughable, I was hoping that you would listen to your fan base and improve your character creation tool for the sequel but so far from what I have seen this has not happened.

So far from what we can see of these pictures nothing has changed

http://img684.images...70/maleshep.jpg

http://img690.images...ubbletastic.jpg

Now so far from what we can see all the hair styles look pretty much the same as each other and the facial hair styles are limited to stubble and redneck styles, there isnt even a proper beard.

Now I can understand that Bioware is going to make some design choices that I am not going to agree with because after all it is Bioware who are making the game, not me. In the end Bioware is going to make the game they want to make, not the game I want them to make. And if I were to make a game like Mass Effect odds are I would do things a bit differently. For instance if I were to make an RPG set in space I would probably have made the player start off as a mercenary for hire or a bounty hunter rather than an elite operative that works for an orginization that is immune to galactic law. I would have also made the story more personal and relevant to the character (Like Baldurs Gate where you try to find your stepfathers killer and find out why he wants you dead or Planescape: Torment where you try to find your characters identity and find out the secret behind your characters immortality) instead of the cliche story where the hero saves the galaxy for the greater good. In the end Bioware is going to write the story it wants to write and make the game it wants to make, I understand that. What I dont understand is why they decide to give us such a pitiful character creator.

Now forgive me if I am wrong but I always assumed that game developers included the character creation tools in their games to give the player the chance to put their own personal touch on their game and to be able to create the character they want to play rather than play the character the game developer forces us to play. The whole reason we have character creation toolsis to be able to play the character we envisage to fill the role even if it is not the character Bioware envisage for the role. Sure the character we create may not fit the role of a soldier in the military but it should be our choice to make. Now I can understand why Bioware diddnt allow long hairstyles as it doesnt really fit a soldier, I could make do without the long hairstyles but I still think we should get the option to give our male shepard long hair. The hairstyles are understandable but there is still no excuse for the shortage beard styles other than the laziness of the devs who refuse to put them in.

The character creation tool that is used at the moment in both the Mass Effect games pretty much forces the player to create a character based on what Bioware think Shepard should look like rather than what the player thinks Shepard should look like. With the total lack of customization options currently in the character creation tool Bioware would probably be just as well off to to scrap the character customization tool for male characters and force everyone to play the default Vandaloo Shepard.

It is a good thing that you give us a variety in helmets as I will probably try to hide my Shepards face behind the helmet for the entire game

Modifié par Gandalf-the-Fabulous, 24 janvier 2010 - 08:23 .


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GnusmasTHX

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Well, you heard the man, BioWare.



No CC in ME3.

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I made a male Shepard who was decent looking (imo, anyways).  I'll post some pics when I get a chance.

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indeed

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Too bad. I was expecting faces would be higher resolution like the Default Shepard is.

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Keep in mind that Shepard was a career soldier. That automatically limits the amount of hair he/she can have due to reg's about such things. It's the same in the real military.

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Quite the eye catching title you got there, champ. I bet you worked on that one for a while.

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jonin17 wrote...

Keep in mind that Shepard was a career soldier. That automatically limits the amount of hair he/she can have due to reg's about such things. It's the same in the real military.


Same thing with beards. Although Shep could get a little wilder now he's with Cerberus.

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spartan186h wrote...

I made a male Shepard who was decent looking (imo, anyways).  I'll post some pics when I get a chance.


Oh that would be great, and if anyone else wants to post a pic of their own male Shepard that they feel looks pretty good please post it here.

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jonin17 wrote...

Keep in mind that Shepard was a career soldier. That automatically limits the amount of hair he/she can have due to reg's about such things. It's the same in the real military.


Military haircuts can be longer than any of those in the CC, as long as they're orderly.

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It wasn't the most expansive creator, but I was always able to to tweak it to something I could be reasonably happy with (true for manshep and femshep)



Your curiously specific need for a particular style and how this somehow impacts the story (which then in turn reimpacts the charactor creator) seems to be a bit odd - but whatevs

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xKerberos wrote...

jonin17 wrote...

Keep in mind that Shepard was a career soldier. That automatically limits the amount of hair he/she can have due to reg's about such things. It's the same in the real military.


Same thing with beards. Although Shep could get a little wilder now he's with Cerberus.


Imagine creating...wait for it...Merlin Shepard!!! A super biotic that no one can beat in terms of power and facial hair! With his beard hanging over his armour, he manages to lull the enemies into a false sense of security (they think he is old or something) and then he unleashes his biotic strength - instantly killing them!


And then he does this "blue steel" look and throws his beard over his shoulder triumphantly. 

FIN

(It's amazing how creative one can get when one is going crazy waiting for a game;))

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I'd love to live in the world you do, where you can apparently expect Devs to read and act upon a wall of text that begins with 'Your xyz sucks'. Unfortunately I live in the real world (as, I suspect, so do the Bioware Devs) and so did not read beyond the first couple of lines. Good luck with whatever it was you were pushing here, though.

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ShdwFlash wrote...
Imagine creating...wait for it...Merlin Shepard!!! A super biotic that no one can beat in terms of power and facial hair! With his beard hanging over his armour, he manages to lull the enemies into a false sense of security (they think he is old or something) and then he unleashes his biotic strength - instantly killing them!


And then he does this "blue steel" look and throws his beard over his shoulder triumphantly. 

FIN

(It's amazing how creative one can get when one is going crazy waiting for a game;))


I think this is appropriate : :wizard:

:lol:

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I don't know. I have to agree a bit with the hair. They could have given us a choice to make a little longer.. like they did in Oblivion ( totally different devs, but still ). Or where we can have more choices...

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jonin17 wrote...

Keep in mind that Shepard was a career soldier. That automatically limits the amount of hair he/she can have due to reg's about such things. It's the same in the real military.


Yeah I know that, that is why I said that I understand why they decided against giving the option for long hair.

However with beards I would assume anything like Hagrids beard would against regs

http://harrypotterwi...9/92/Hagrid.jpg

But surely somthing like these wouldnt be?

http://media.photobu...ucket/ME2_5.jpg

http://faithandgende.../patrick034.jpg

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i stuck to the defaults anyways, but i damn well appreciate that they at least have the option. i WAS going to make my own femshep but seeing on how perfect the default femshep is...well lets just say i will never have an opinion on how the CC works lol

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ShdwFlash wrote...

xKerberos wrote...

jonin17 wrote...

Keep in mind that Shepard was a career soldier. That automatically limits the amount of hair he/she can have due to reg's about such things. It's the same in the real military.


Same thing with beards. Although Shep could get a little wilder now he's with Cerberus.


Imagine creating...wait for it...Merlin Shepard!!! A super biotic that no one can beat in terms of power and facial hair! With his beard hanging over his armour, he manages to lull the enemies into a false sense of security (they think he is old or something) and then he unleashes his biotic strength - instantly killing them!


And then he does this "blue steel" look and throws his beard over his shoulder triumphantly. 

FIN

(It's amazing how creative one can get when one is going crazy waiting for a game;))


Or maybe he is like Bayonetta and his beard is his armour, then when he uses his Biotic powers he becomes naked Image IPB, on second thoughts that may not be such a good idea.

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Its not so much its the same thing as ME1. Its the fact that its LESS than the one in ME2. They took away the scars option.

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dont have any shepherd pics but my brother had these two....


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Oh whatever. My Shepard is a big sexy hunk of love - far better than Sheploo. Buzz off.

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jidnis wrote...

It wasn't the most expansive creator, but I was always able to to tweak it to something I could be reasonably happy with (true for manshep and femshep)

Your curiously specific need for a particular style and how this somehow impacts the story (which then in turn reimpacts the charactor creator) seems to be a bit odd - but whatevs


I know technically Bioware doesnt have to put a character creator in their games and Mass Effect could do quite well without one, but if you are going to put a character creator in your game why wouldnt you allow the player to create a character that they want to play instead of forcing them to create a character along the lines of what they think the character should look like, my gripe with the character creation is not unwarranted and my arguments are quite valid.

I know you fanbois think that the devs at Bioware are gods and that their creations are perfect in every way, but you do have to realise that not everything they shoot out of their arse is a nugget of gold. Nobody here can say that the character creator in both Mass Effect games is any good, quite frankly the character creation tool they use in the Mass Effect games is quite rubbish.

I certainly hope they decide to improve the character creation tool for ME3 but so far at this point in time I really cant say that they will. As the character creation tool is at the moment they might as well scrap it and force everyone to play as Vandaloo Shepard. 

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I agree with Gandalf ! To some degree.

Each and every time i made a shepard .. i always end up with the same model . .. Because all the other are ugly..I mean look at your companions..They have better look than any custom shepard you can make..That just stupid.

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Both my male and female shepards looked badass, so whatever. You just need to learn how to make em look good within the limits.

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I happen to like my Shep. The only real gripes I have about the character creator is not being able to manually adjust the bridge of the nose (angle and width), the angle and size of the eyes, and the width of the head. Another thing that bugs me a little is the very limited selection of hairlines. There should be multiple hairline options for every hairstyle.

Modifié par Permutation, 24 janvier 2010 - 10:19 .