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[TMJfin]

It took time but two of my male Sheps look great and also my renegade fem Shep looks like a beautiful and deadly bi**h that she is.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

GoGoSago wrote...

Both my male and female shepards looked badass, so whatever. You just need to learn how to make em look good within the limits.

Mind posting a pic of you Shepard so that I might judge how badass he looks? I have no problem with the fem Shep it is only the male Shep that I have trouble with.

[jidnis]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

jidnis wrote...

It wasn't the most expansive creator, but I was always able to to tweak it to something I could be reasonably happy with (true for manshep and femshep)

Your curiously specific need for a particular style and how this somehow impacts the story (which then in turn reimpacts the charactor creator) seems to be a bit odd - but whatevs

I know technically Bioware doesnt have to put a character creator in their games and Mass Effect could do quite well without one, but if you are going to put a character creator in your game why wouldnt you allow the player to create a character that they want to play instead of forcing them to create a character along the lines of what they think the character should look like, my gripe with the character creation is not unwarranted and my arguments are quite valid.

I know you fanbois think that the devs at Bioware are gods and that their creations are perfect in every way, but you do have to realise that not everything they shoot out of their arse is a nugget of gold. Nobody here can say that the character creator in both Mass Effect games is any good, quite frankly the character creation tool they use in the Mass Effect games is quite rubbish.

I certainly hope they decide to improve the character creation tool for ME3 but so far at this point in time I really cant say that they will. As the character creation tool is at the moment they might as well scrap it and force everyone to play as Vandaloo Shepard. 

I don't know how you got from me saying:
"It wasn't the most expansive charactor creator"
To thinking that I had meant that:
"... everything they shoot out of their arse is a nugget of gold"

I am all for more customization options.  Your entire post could be summed up by "there needs to be beards!" and you would have had pages full of /signed supporters

Your valid points seem to be drowning in your own hyperbole

Modifié par jidnis, 24 janvier 2010 - 10:43 .

[Wolverfrog]

I like using the default Shepard.

[KainrycKarr]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

spartan186h wrote...

I made a male Shepard who was decent looking (imo, anyways).  I'll post some pics when I get a chance.

Oh that would be great, and if anyone else wants to post a pic of their own male Shepard that they feel looks pretty good please post it here.

I happen to like my Shepard. The character creator isn't all that awful(hairstyles not included of course), once you figure out which sliders really change your face for the better.

Modifié par KainrycKarr, 24 janvier 2010 - 10:46 .

[andrewv42]

My infiltrator male shepard is admittedly quite handsome. The voice acting just doesn't suit his face, but he's a creation that I pride myself upon.

There's nothing wrong with the character creation tools; it's just hard to get a formula that works, which is why there's a default shepard.

Modifié par andrewv42, 24 janvier 2010 - 10:48 .

[Angel of Love]

After you locate the Prothean (or Collector if you wish since they are now Reaper controlled) base within a black hole in the center of the galaxy where they have taken all the humans from the colonies (and your crew after the attack on the second Normandy) and you use the Omega 4 Mass Relay to reach the base. And after you discover they were using the captured humans to build a human Reaper and you destroy it and blow up the base possibly leaving team mates behind (team mates die from plot choices you make like what position you assign them to and what upgrades you install on the Normandy), you get the ending with you escaping back to known space and you have this huge army of hostile Geth ships.

[andrewv42]

.....what?

[pharos_gryphon]

andrewv42 wrote...

My infiltrator male shepard is admittedly quite handsome. The voice acting just doesn't suit his face, but he's a creation that I pride myself upon.

There's nothing wrong with the character creation tools; it's just hard to get a formula that works, which is why there's a default shepard.

I was really hoping they'd do something akin to Dragon Age once more, whereby we download a character creator a week or two in advance and can play around with it some.

[Lucy Glitter]

 So Gandalf, I hear your topic titles are obnoxious.

[Permutation]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

Mind posting a pic of you Shepard so that I might judge how badass he looks? I have no problem with the fem Shep it is only the male Shep that I have trouble with.

Just for kicks. Here's a couple pics of my main:

[Homebound]

Beauty is so crude and contrite, I make my Shepard ugly. =D

[Homebound]

TMJfin wrote...

It took time but two of my male Sheps look great and also my renegade fem Shep looks like a beautiful and deadly bi**h that she is.

My Fem Shepard looks like Yeoman Chambers...

[Aratham Darksight]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

 So Gandalf, I hear your topic titles are obnoxious.

Well, so are his responses to even vaugely dissenting opinions, so at least people know what they're getting into.

[T1l]

Every character that's been created looks like they have foetal alcohol syndrome; it’s why I can’t play anything other than Vanderloo-Shep. All the “choose your own Shepards” look ridiculous; “Hurr durr I’m a specturr!”.

[Permutation]

T1l wrote...

Every character that's been created looks like they have foetal alcohol syndrome; it’s why I can’t play anything other than Vanderloo-Shep. All the “choose your own Shepards” look ridiculous; “Hurr durr I’m a specturr!”.

I don't think my Shep looks ridiculous at all...

[Duchell]

At first I wasn too happy with the character creator myself ( for me personally its the most important part of an RPG) but the more I used it, the more I realised, that you Can create very interesting, unique, differentiated and even good looking Shepards.

Just look at all those great Sheps:

http://social.biowar.../index/623779/1



But besides that I think the developers had the following problem:

If you made a great change to the character creator, it would be almost impossible to programm the posibility to change your old Shep in the new character creator.

So the options are:

- new character creator, but not the possibility to change your old Shep afterwards

Or

- old character + possibility to change old Shep.



Im pretty sure thats how it went.

[Hyper Cutter]

He's got a point about the hair, honestly. Especially since female Shepards have a better selection, iirc.

[DarkWaterSong]

I only hope the hair line is a bit lower. It doesn't bother me when my male Shepard (Naveed and Boston both turned out fine) have a receding hairline....but when my female characters do, it bugs.

[Tor_pedo]

heroes not supposed to be cute and adorable! (unless they're puppies). Heroes be fierce, scary men with scary faces that scare the **** out of their enemies cus they're so fkucing scary!

[Dr. Catt]

I am suprised that Bioware hasn't used the character creator from DA:O as a basis on which to build the ME: 2 one. I had two major problems with the ME 1 creator:



1) Eye shapes

2) Hair styles



The hair was extremely static (I don't expect actual movement I just mean it kind of looked plastic) and the eye shapes just looked bizarre for the most part.



I like to at least try to create a character that looks vaguely like me but that wasn't at all possible with ME. My DA:O one is a much better match. I just find it helps with immersion.



Strangely my femshep looks a lot better but then I went crazy with her: really wide cheekbones, round face, dark skin, red buzzcut, yellow eyebrows and blue eyeshadow. She looked petty good in a Suze kind of way.

[Sialboats]

I am suprised that Bioware hasn't used the character creator from DA:O as a basis on which to build the ME2 one.
 

I am as well. The DA:O system looks pretty nice, and turns out some excellent characters.

[Dr. Catt]

Sialboats wrote...

I am suprised that Bioware hasn't used the character creator from DA:O as a basis on which to build the ME2 one.
 

I am as well. The DA:O system looks pretty nice, and turns out some excellent characters.

I assume that part of it is to do with the fact that AFAIK they use dfferent engines. However I presume they could have built off of the DA:O in so much as they've got the concepts and design for the creator down and some of the code can be re-used at least.

Clearly they'd need to create new models that were more appropriate for a sci-fi setting in some instances (and no dwarves or elves!) but still it would have been nice to have the same number of options.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

jidnis wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

jidnis wrote...

It wasn't the most expansive creator, but I was always able to to tweak it to something I could be reasonably happy with (true for manshep and femshep)

Your curiously specific need for a particular style and how this somehow impacts the story (which then in turn reimpacts the charactor creator) seems to be a bit odd - but whatevs

I know technically Bioware doesnt have to put a character creator in their games and Mass Effect could do quite well without one, but if you are going to put a character creator in your game why wouldnt you allow the player to create a character that they want to play instead of forcing them to create a character along the lines of what they think the character should look like, my gripe with the character creation is not unwarranted and my arguments are quite valid.

I know you fanbois think that the devs at Bioware are gods and that their creations are perfect in every way, but you do have to realise that not everything they shoot out of their arse is a nugget of gold. Nobody here can say that the character creator in both Mass Effect games is any good, quite frankly the character creation tool they use in the Mass Effect games is quite rubbish.

I certainly hope they decide to improve the character creation tool for ME3 but so far at this point in time I really cant say that they will. As the character creation tool is at the moment they might as well scrap it and force everyone to play as Vandaloo Shepard. 

I don't know how you got from me saying:
"It wasn't the most expansive charactor creator"
To thinking that I had meant that:
"... everything they shoot out of their arse is a nugget of gold"

I am all for more customization options.  Your entire post could be summed up by "there needs to be beards!" and you would have had pages full of /signed supporters

Your valid points seem to be drowning in your own hyperbole

It isnt just about the beards but all of the customization options altogether, hair, beards, scars (which if you believe the poster who posted earlier in this thread that scars have been taken out in ME2). I am not just asking for more beards I am asking for more customization options altogether.

And while I will admit that my "everything they shoot out of their arse is a nugget of gold" comment was an exaggeration you do seem like you refuse to acknowledge how bad the character creation really is. You try and claim that I exaggerate how bad the character creation is but really nothing I have said in this topic has been an exaggeration (apart from my "nugget of gold" comment).

Biowares character creation tool for ME is bad, sure it isnt the worst I have seen but it is still really bad when compared to some other games. I seriously hope they fix it in ME3.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

spartan186h wrote...

I made a male Shepard who was decent looking (imo, anyways).  I'll post some pics when I get a chance.

Oh that would be great, and if anyone else wants to post a pic of their own male Shepard that they feel looks pretty good please post it here.

I happen to like my Shepard. The character creator isn't all that awful(hairstyles not included of course), once you figure out which sliders really change your face for the better.

Permutation wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

Mind posting a pic of you Shepard so that I might judge how badass he looks? I have no problem with the fem Shep it is only the male Shep that I have trouble with.

Just for kicks. Here's a couple pics of my main:

While they are both quite good looking Shepards they still fit into the style of what Bioware thinks Shepard should look like. The look I am trying to go for with my Shepard simply isnt possible with the character creation tool we currently have.

What I am trying to say in this topic is that Bioware should stop forcing us to create a Shepard within the boundries of what they think Shepard should look like and instead give us the customization options we need to create some truely unique looking Shepards.