i know they have repeatedly said that the warden isn't in inquisition, but they sure haven't explained who that dude in warden armor next to hawke in that one trailer is, so i still think the warden is going to be inquisition, and there was a german article for inquisition that said the warden and hawke, i'll have to see if i can find the link to it.
Thats not the HoF
Importing Hawke is MUCH simpler than importing the Warden. The Warden didn't have a 'dominant tone' like Hawke did. Your Hawke could be diplomatic, sarcastic, or aggressive (you could say that you could have made a mixture, but there's always a tone of the three that is dominant). If they just account to that and Hawke himself doesn't have a role that requires him to make a choice, then it's simpler to include him than a Warden. And of course the gist of what happened to Hawke is pretty much the same no matter what, while the Warden not only has different backrounds but also conclusions.
The warden's story is not done imo. they just refuse to finish it. it is done when he is dead. And he may not be dead. *trying to avoid spoilers*
No every plot line and lose end needs to be tied, but theres far far far far far far far x9000 too many, for it to be done.
Anyway, yeah, I see how its easier with one one race, one voice defined character than with the warden. i see why they might have done it now.
Importing Hawke is MUCH simpler than importing the Warden. The Warden didn't have a 'dominant tone' like Hawke did. Your Hawke could be diplomatic, sarcastic, or aggressive (you could say that you could have made a mixture, but there's always a tone of the three that is dominant). If they just account to that and Hawke himself doesn't have a role that requires him to make a choice, then it's simpler to include him than a Warden. And of course the gist of what happened to Hawke is pretty much the same no matter what, while the Warden not only has different backrounds but also conclusions.
this is one of many reasons i prefered dao, tbh. i want to be my own character, not a version of a template.
I wish the other DA games continued in dao's footsteps. 
Importing Hawke is MUCH simpler than importing the Warden. The Warden didn't have a 'dominant tone' like Hawke did. Your Hawke could be diplomatic, sarcastic, or aggressive (you could say that you could have made a mixture, but there's always a tone of the three that is dominant). If they just account to that and Hawke himself doesn't have a role that requires him to make a choice, then it's simpler to include him than a Warden. And of course the gist of what happened to Hawke is pretty much the same no matter what, while the Warden not only has different backrounds but also conclusions.
while that is true, all that information is compressed into the keep, and unless there is an option for choosing if hawke was diplomatic, sarcastic and aggressive, people who are using a default hawke in keep going to do? i don't think its a valid argument for why the warden isn't in inquisition. i do agree that is simpler just to have hawke.
while that is true, all that information is compressed into the keep, and unless there is an option for choosing if hawke was diplomatic, sarcastic and aggressive, people who are using a default hawke in keep going to do? i don't think its a valid argument for why the warden isn't in inquisition. i do agree that is simpler just to have hawke.
Perhaps you should wait and see what amount of input the Keep will ask of you about Hawke once it comes out, hm? 
The warden's story is not done imo. they just refuse to finish it. it is done when he is dead. And he may not be dead. *trying to avoid spoilers*
No every plot line and lose end needs to be tied, but theres far far far far far far far x9000 too many, for it to be done.
Like what? The Warden killed the Archdemon, the end.
Side stories like the old god baby aren't a continuation of the Warden's story.
Like what? The Warden killed the Archdemon, the end.
Side stories like the old god baby aren't a continuation of the Warden's story.
So did Wynne. her story didn't end.
So did Allistair. " "
Shepard killed the reaper at the end of me1. his story didn't end.
"K i killed the dragon" ... *world collapses and my being in it ends*.. and either way, the warden was in DA:A. his story did not end at the archdemon.
I don't want to derail my own thread though. This is not what it was about. it was about "why hawke and not the warden" and I think that we've gotten to the bottom of that, so lets change the topic...
how wiould you guys like to see the warden wrapped up? Just references from morrigan.. have her and leliana explain some things? DLC? Nothing at all and leave any loose ends a mystery?
Damn it, if there is no Warden, then where am I gonna get my world shattering Inquisitor, Hawke and Warden "threesome"... 
P.S. guess which one of them is gonna be the female?
Warden didn't sign up for a sequel.
Hawke's story -- this is not an intended slight against Dragon Age II -- is far less complicated than the Warden's. Hawke could have a defined personality and his actions didn't really affect much of what happened in the game. Regardless of your choices, you still go on the expedition, the Qunari still invade, and the mage rebellion still begins. Only the details are changed. The Warden could wipe out a Dalish clan, revive the art of golem making, destroy the Circle of Magi, and more. His/her actions defined Ferelden, and his/her character was even harder to define because there was no set personality or moral system in place. Your character merely existed and did things -- any semblance of a personality or moral code was an invention of the player's mind.
To put the Warden in, would require a generic personality and voice be given to them. That has the potential to upset fans. Hawke's three personalities are set and his/her voice is well known. No reason for rage there.
The Warden's story ended in DAA. I was satisfied with that, but no...let's bring him/her up at the end of DA2.
Leliana: So...did you
Cassandra: Gone, just like the Warden.
Leliana: That is no coincidence.
This is the conversation at the end of DA2.
So, in my opinion, the Warden's story didn't end.
I also don't know why people say Warden doesn't has a purpose to the story when it was stated that Leliana was looking for the Warden, while Cassandra is looking for Hawke. Pretty sure they don't care who they find, they just need someone with alot of influences to help stop the Mage-Templar war. Unless Leliana was looking for the Warden just to say Hi...
My guess is that like many had said before, the Warden is way harder to put in the game than Hawke for obvious reasons.
The Warden's story ended in DAA. I was satisfied with that, but no...let's bring him/her up at the end of DA2.
Leliana: So...did you
Cassandra: Gone, just like the Warden.
Leliana: That is no coincidence.
This is the conversation at the end of DA2.
So, in my opinion, the Warden's story didn't end.
I also don't know why people say Warden doesn't has a purpose to the story when it was stated that Leliana was looking for the Warden, while Cassandra is looking for Hawke. Pretty sure they don't care who they find, they just need someone with alot of influences to help stop the Mage-Templar war. Unless Leliana was looking for the Warden just to say Hi...
My guess is that like many had said before, the Warden is way harder to put in the game than Hawke for obvious reasons.
I think it would be amusing if Leliana was wrong and the disappearance of the two was simply a coincidence...
The warden can rot for all I care. My keep cannon will be "The warden died".
Because of the warden and his/her implications in DA:O we are denied romancing Leliana in DA:I (the only romance I wanted).
Kinda strange hating my own character, am I actually jealous of... myself? O.o
Well, I think pepole should be happy they brought at least Hawke to Inquisition, and I am saying it as a person that loved my warden more than Hawke but still, they didin't have to import Hawke into this game HAWKE a player that you have played, created etc. Is in there, I guess wanting more more and more is humanity. But now to the other side of view, pepole are just pissed off that they don't know how their Warden's story have ended, which I totally understand, but I think we'll know what exactly happend becouse Alistair Leliana and Morrigan are back, maybe our warden is not there but there are pepole that can tell us what happend to him or her or whatever, who knows? Maybe he'll appear in DA4 or smthing. But If he/she appears in DA4 I hope they won't be playable, I hope Bioware finally gave us a char with all the races (Inquisitor) that can be a coninuing protoganist for the next DA games, one can dream no?
But anyway for those of you that said that "its hard to import a char without voice" or smthing, they can just say the warden's voice got changed becouse of some spell or the fade or bla bla bla, and put random weird voice (SPOILER FROM ME3 ENDING!!! OR SMTHING!)
Like Shephard's voice in one of the endings in ME3 WHICH I HAVEN'T PLAYED SO TAKE ME EASY!
But eventually I am not sure they didint put him becouse he/her are hard to import, I think they didin't put him/her cuz of story reasons.
Part of me wishes they would just release some DLC where we play as the Warden and embark on his/her Calling. Supposedly, Wardens who are active during a Blight and have a lot of interaction with darkspawn experience their Calling sooner than normal... It's been about 10 years since DAO. 
After being accidently exposed to some major crazy spoilers on Tumblr (from an a-hole who doesn't tag anything) Hawke trouncing around in DA:I makes total sense.
Its the story they wanted to go with in this game. That's the official reasoning and just as good as any really.
Importing a dead warden to Awakenings was a bug, one that's been fixed by the keep.
Probably because Hawke was originally going to be a part of Exalted March, and that DA:II got scrapped in favor of DA:I - which has inherited the storyline that was originally going to be in Exalted March IIRC.
So it makes sense that Hawke has a larger role to play. The "only three personalities" thing to consider probably helped too, as someone said on a similar thread.
Part of me wants the Warden to return being with morrigan and their son and live happly ever after, but, other part of me wants it to be more realistic like bioware are doing it I mean he is a Warden after all they cant have normal life, they chose (On our case we can choose this) life of death. So no matter what happens I do not think the warden will live happliy ever after or he'll ever be a protoganist again. What I do belive is that bioware will bring the warden's son into the future games, or at least I hope.
Naughty Dog, prior to The Last of Us, continued to tell all the fans and press, that you -never- play as Ellie, in the game. Ever. They said this in an interview. They wanted everyone to be totally blown away, they said....just some food for though.
Because warden's story ended.
For you maybe, but my warden participated in the dark ritual with morrigan (who plays an important role in DAI) & so happens to be the prince-consort of Ferelden. His role in Thedas completely overshadows Hawke's existence entirely.
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