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[Teddie Sage]

"Every living being enters the Fade mentally when they dream, and mages tap into it when they cast spells. The only exception being the dwarves who do not dream"

 

So... If a dwarf can't dream, how is s/he able to live a happy life? No wonder some dwarves are grumpy all the time. I know that they've been cut from the Fade and all that but I do wonder how they cope with the fact they can't dream. Are they capable of having imagination or creating stuff? Being artists? Do they understand the concept of dreaming? It's an odd thing for me as dreams are an important source of inspiration. It makes me question a lot of things. How does it affect their ambitions, how does it affect their daily life. If they can't dream, then this means they can't have nightmares as well. It's like the only way they can be happy or sad is by being awake or experiencing something outside of their "sleeping" state. To me, it's like they're just robots. The concept of souls for dwarves seems to work differently as well, as they honour their ancestors through the ages. But other than that, I feel like there's something odd missing. It's just me, I know. Usually I wouldn't get so affected by a sentence I found in the lore, but this one just sounds... sad and cruel. I feel like dwarves are the most unlucky race of the Thedosean lands. Makes me wonder if they are doomed to disappear or if they will persist over the next ages.

 

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Edit: I'm well aware they can't be mages and the Fade and dreams seem to be are related. I figured out could still be possible to dream without visiting the Fade for them, but that's just wishful thinking. Dwarves still are capable of being forced into the Fade by other characters, like powerful magic or demons, other than that... Nope, can't dream. Can't cast magic.

[PabloSanLucas]

I sleep all the time without dreaming. Very soundly I might add.

 

Are they capable of having imagination or creating stuff? ...Golems. Nuff' said.

[Teddie Sage]

I sleep all the time without dreaming. Very soundly I might add.

 

Are they capable of having imagination or creating stuff? ...Golems. Nuff' said.

Well, there's that. But I wonder if they do remember they used to dream or if some other races thought them how to be inspired or how dreams affects other cultures now and then.

[thats1evildude]

Well, considering that dreaming in Thedas involves your mind entering a metaphysical realm where you're examined by indifferent spirits or tormented by demons, I think the experience of dreaming would be highly overrated.

[Daerog]

Everyone dreams, you just don't always recall it when waking up. In real life, that is. Thedas is different.

 

You don't need dreams to be creative, as most/many don't remember their dreams and still have an active imagination.

[Teddie Sage]

The moment I read that sentence that they can't dream, makes me wonder if they experience the feeling of nightmares elsewhere instead. Probably everyday since they live near Darkspawns if they are tradionalists living underground.

[Rainbow Wyvern]

I don't see why dreaming/not dreaming would affect your creativity. I never remember my dreams and I'd say I'm pretty creative. 

 

Besides, with how dreaming works in Thedas.... I wouldn't want to dream anyway. 

[kukumburr]

This was always confusing to me because there is a part in Awakening where you talk to Oghren and he tells you about a nightmare he had. I was never sure if this was just a mistake or what. I also wonder if Grey Warden dwarves have the archdemon dreams or not, since those seem like a special case.

[Teddie Sage]

This was always confusing to me because there is a part in Awakening where you talk to Oghren and he tells you about a nightmare he had. I was never sure if this was just a mistake or what. I also wonder if Grey Warden dwarves have the archdemon dreams or not, since those seem like a special case.

Ohhhh... thanks for mentionning that.

[Joe-Poe]

This was always confusing to me because there is a part in Awakening where you talk to Oghren and he tells you about a nightmare he had. I was never sure if this was just a mistake or what. I also wonder if Grey Warden dwarves have the archdemon dreams or not, since those seem like a special case.

It was the taint...He even mentions in that same part that it scared the hell out of him because he never dreamed before and pretty much didnt know wtf was going on.

[AlexiaRevan]

 

Are they capable of having imagination or creating stuff? Being artists?

Look at Ozammar , the whole place scream artist and imagination . The statues of their ancestors too . Maybe they go elsewhere...who know . Nobody dug deep in the 'return to the stone' , and the deep road part we saw in DA2 may hint at maybe something happen to cut them off . (kinda like elf stopping being immortal) . 

[Teddie Sage]

If the Fade is also the spot where people go when they die, does that mean that literately dwarves are soulless?

[AlexiaRevan]

If the Fade is also the spot where people go when they die, does that mean that literately dwarves are soulless?

Hum no . And if the fade is where peoples go..doesn't that imply the maker doesn't exist ? and all the soul..are eaten by demons ?   

[katerinafm]

Dreaming doesn't have the same meaning in real life as it does in Thedas. In real life, dreaming happens all the time (whether you remember it or not) and is the way your mind unleashes its imagination, subconscious, etcetc. It's not the same in Thedas. Dwarves don't require dreams to have imaginations and 'fantasies'. The only reason the other races dream is because of magic. They don't actually need it to function.

[kukumburr]

It was the taint...He even mentions in that same part that it scared the hell out of him because he never dreamed before and pretty much didnt know wtf was going on.

 

Ah, I think I was confused because it started off sounding like a Grey Warden dream but then as he describes it it sounded like a normal nightmare. Something about the darkspawn asking him if he'd like lemon in his tea and stuff about the baby. But I guess the taint is what started it off.

[Kantr]

Dreaming in Thedas seems like something that happens to you and involves spirits trawling your memories. Without dreaming the Dwarves created great works like the deep roads and golems.

 

In real life dreaming is how we consolidate memories, rest and repair the body and mind.

[Medhia_Nox]

@thats1evildude:  You're real life dreaming experiences don't involve all that?

Weird... must be just me then.

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

I've never thought about this, but do we know if Qunari dreaming works like humans/elves, or no? 

[thats1evildude]

Qunari claim they don't dream as humans and elves do. They see the Fade as the Land of the Dead and travelling there is forbidden.

If the Fade is also the spot where people go when they die, does that mean that literately dwarves are soulless?

No, they return to the Stone.

[vertigomez]

Why should dwarves dream when you can dream of dwarves~?

[Aolbain]

Do dwarves dream of lyrium nugs?

[bazzag]

Dwarves don't need to dream. Look at Oghren. All of his booze consumption? I'm sure he'll be fine.

 

PS. With the amount of alcohol gifts i gave to Oghren in Origins and awakening i'm suprised i didnt give him Liver failure

[Teddie Sage]

Returning to the Stone... Sounds bloody and gory to me and doesn't involve the spirits of their ancestors at all. xD

[Phnx]

A person without dreams seems very dull to me. That explains to me a lot about dwarves.