So did our Warden and Hawke accidentally stumble onto this "different" way of doing things? Because no where is it mentioned in the game or otherwise about either needing lyrium.
Though, I can understand the Seekers not telling the Templars about it, I mean after all, the Wardens don't tell recruits about the joining. However, I don't like the double recton for Alistair.
"I lied about taking Lyrium when talking to the Warden. I had to make him think Morrigan was sneaking his potions."
Hawke was said, in game, to be using lyrium.
It amuses me that people some people will bend over backwards to ignore the part of Cassandra's class description that says "as a Seeker, she has full access to templar talents without lyrium addiction."
It amuses me how we still don't know why that matters or what that reasoning means, but we'll jump to conclusions anyway if it means we have a reason to topple the institution.
Hawke was said, in game, to be using lyrium.
this i did not know. where is it said?
And I wonder if this was a planned element to the lore or an "uh oh. we have a character who depends on lyrium, but since there is a break in the lyrium chain, we would have to explain how they can function" moment.
It amuses me that people some people will bend over backwards to ignore the part of Cassandra's class description that says "as a Seeker, she has full access to templar talents without lyrium addiction."
Nobody is ignoring it 
And I wonder if this was a planned element to the lore or an "uh oh. we have a character who depends on lyrium, but since there is a break in the lyrium chain, we would have to explain how they can function" moment.
This is pretty much them adding on to established lore
Nobody is ignoring it
Some people were. Not in this particular thread, but I was discussing it in another thread and one poster was bending over backwards trying to say that Cassandra was special, and that that particular line, and Lukas' quote meant nothing.
Literally, this one poster was doing everything they could to deny it.
It was amusing.
This is pretty much them adding on to established lore
established lore in game said lyrium wasn't needed.
established lore in game said lyrium wasn't needed.
The Dragon Age series lore is obviously more than just the game since it's first book came out before the Origins
this i did not know. where is it said?
I think it was just implied by the description. I don't think anybody actually mentioned anything, since no one notices specializations except for Anders in Awakening.
this i did not know. where is it said?
The description of the spec says Hawke is using lyrium. Of course it's not said in dialogue The only time Templars were acknowledge in DA was during the Landsmeet arc in the Alienage Orphanage.
The description of the spec says Hawke is using lyrium. Of course it's not said in dialogue The only time Templars were acknowledge in DA was during the Landsmeet arc in the Alienage Orphanage.
Yup, a templar warden can agree with Otto about sensing something, and he recognizes you as a templar.
The description of the spec says Hawke is using lyrium. Of course it's not said in dialogue The only time Templars were acknowledge in DA was during the Landsmeet arc in the Alienage Orphanage.
The spec description actually states that smuggled lyrium can give templar abilities to people outside of the order. So there's an implication that Hawke did use lyrium, but this isn't clear due to not actually seeing anything with Templar Hawke.
I could just as easily say that Hawke used templar abilities without lyrium due to his magic lineage from both of his parents (Both Leandra and Isolde are evidence that the "magic gene" can be carried by non-magic children of mages).
The confirmation that seekers use templar abilities without lyrium addiction is heavy support for Alistair's assertion about templars not needing lyrium for their abilities. (Yep, I'm ignoring Gaider's retcon as it simply makes Alistair into a liar (which he isn't) and was retroactively made years after both Origins and DA2 were released)
Nice theory. Though if this is the case it'd be pretty ironic for Cassandra because she hated mages due to her brother being killed by a blood mage while she's using a form of blood magic herself
Thanks :) I bet Cass just has a weak reasoning to justify it and keep herself in denial. Something along the lines of "it's the power inside me, inside anyone who has faith." I mean, no templar seems to realize the irony of philacteries. Sure they may know what it is, tlak about it being usefull or a lesser evil, but none calls it blood magic.Nice theory. Though if this is the case it'd be pretty ironic for Cassandra because she hated mages due to her brother being killed by a blood mage while she's using a form of blood magic herself
In DAO you can tell Alistair "So templars use magic themselves ?" and he replies "You could say that but they sure don't see it that way"
Some people were. Not in this particular thread, but I was discussing it in another thread and one poster was bending over backwards trying to say that Cassandra was special, and that that particular line, and Lukas' quote meant nothing.
Literally, this one poster was doing everything they could to deny it.
It was amusing.
The spec description actually states that smuggled lyrium can give templar abilities to people outside of the order. So there's an implication that Hawke did use lyrium, but this isn't clear due to not actually seeing anything with Templar Hawke.
I could just as easily say that Hawke used templar abilities without lyrium due to his magic lineage from both of his parents (Both Leandra and Isolde are evidence that the "magic gene" can be carried by non-magic children of mages).
The confirmation that seekers use templar abilities without lyrium addiction is heavy support for Alistair's assertion about templars not needing lyrium for their abilities. (Yep, I'm ignoring Gaider's retcon as it simply makes Alistair into a liar (which he isn't) and was retroactively made years after both Origins and DA2 were released)
No you really can't. It seems clear enough to me, but I guess that's because I'm not trying to make people outside the loop of the Seekers, seem special. Whatever they had access to, Hawke obviously doesn't. Otherwise, more Templars would.
Along with Templars maybe or maybe not using magic, and this is slightly off topic, how do Reaver abilities work?
Dragon blood magic iirc
Wyvern blood magic, even the Reavers in DAO who had a dragon around used wyvern blood.
Wyvern blood is an alternative. Kolgrim does say the one he uses is wyvern if questioned but the one Calenhad used for exemple was actual dragon blood
Im a tiny bit disappointed with how Bioware handles the lore of Dragon Age
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