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#2701
Kleon

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really???? im pr for stating the facts you might not like them but they are true.

 

Also please don't try and inject your constant negativity into conversation im having with a reasonable poster. I mean when was the last time you posted something positive or constructive :angry:

 

I suggest that you go through the thread and look. 

 

You might be, you might not be. You're obviously blind to any logic, even math. It doesn't change the fact that your posts are a copy of BioWare commercial talk. Had it been the times of DA2 you'd be talking about awsome button.


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Yes it's only 8 you can use at a given time but remember this has thinking in mind they want you to have to use your brain unlike most games this is getting away from the hand holding meaning more preparation for combat.

HAHAHA... DA has gone the route of  more and more handholding throughout the series.



#2703
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@Kleon:  You a college student taking majoring in communications... or are you just slumming it in a single advertising course for the easy credits?

 

You don't need to study anything. Just read what is all over the internet.



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I suggest that you go through the thread and look. 

 

You might be, you not be. You're obviously blind to any logic, even math. It doesn't change the fact that your posts are a copy of BioWare commercial talk. Had it been the times of DA2 you'd be talking about awsome button.

Its true, I mean there is facts and junk but I see through the PR BS and tactics as well. Not gonna buy into it again like other times. Live and learn, some still need to.



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I suggest that you go through the thread and look. 

 

You might be, you might not be. You're obviously blind to any logic, even math. It doesn't change the fact that your posts are a copy of BioWare commercial talk. Had it been the times of DA2 you'd be talking about awsome button.

More baseless negativity.

 

If you want to actually back up your claims that my information is wrong with some nice juicy evidence im here waiting.



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You don't need to study anything, just read what is all over the internet.

 

Funny how that made me reach the opposite conclusion from you...

But, wait...everything is a conspiracy. It must be. Even the accidental map spoiler was intentional.

OH ****. To the bunkers!



#2707
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All I hear is whinning and I'm certain it's a similiar noise you're hearing. 

Everything is a conspiracy! Fear everything!

 

If you call an observation whining...


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If you call an observation whining...

You called my and others "observation" of the current system "Unpaid PR", so yes. I am calling it baseless whinning.



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Maybe you are PR for a shooter game trying do drive people away from getting this game think on that lol you make about no sense along with your zero facts and no information to back up what you are saying. You do realize there is more information saying you are wrong also the fact they have live stream of the game proving everything you say to be false would be one thing if we had nothing to go off of when it comes to information however sense there is live stream twitch videos your evidence is just not there. 



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Funny how that made me reach the opposite conclusion from you...

But, wait...everything is a conspiracy. It must be. Even the accidental map spoiler was intentional.

OH ****. To the bunkers!

 

Conspiracy?

 

They just want to sell their product, there is no conspiracy behind it. Average consumer might live under illusion that advertising is just commercials, trailers, banners, posters and other things like this. However when you actually take a step back and actually think about what you see on different forums, in comment sections in articles or on blogs you will realize that it can be found everywhere. 



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Conspiracy?

 

They just want to sell their product, there is no conspiracy behind it. Average consumer might live under illusion that afvertising is just commercials, trailers, banners, posters and other things like this. However when you actually take a step back and actually think about what you see on different forums, in comment sections in articles or on blogs you will realize that it can be found everywhere. 

 

So, what? You're a secret PR agent for Call of Duty?



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Maybe you are PR for a shooter game trying do drive people away from getting this game think on that lol you make about no sense along with your zero facts and no information to back up what you are saying. You do realize there is more information saying you are wrong also the fact they have live stream of the game proving everything you say to be false would be one thing if we had nothing to go off of when it comes to information however sense there is live stream twitch videos your evidence is just not there. 

 

If anything is wrong it is your ghastly grasp of statistics. Lower number of variables will NEVER creates more outcomes. 

 

An experiment with one indpendant vairable will never test more than an experiment with two independant variables.



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So, what? You're a secret PR agent for Call of Duty?

 

Watch it, or you'll blow your cover.

 

It would be weird, I made way too many "positive" posts about DA in general before they actually started revealing things that irk and disappoint me. 



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Lol really now well at least I know your intelligence does not go far if you think you think I am wrong. 11/11 is 11 for combination

8/11 three is the difference. So to use a example

Sword/Mace/Axe/Gun/Knife/Hammer/Flare/Pistol/Katana/Saber/Cannon =1

Sword/Mace/Axe/Gun/knife/Hammer/Flare/Pistol

Sword/Mace/Axe/Gun/Katana/Saber/Cannon/Flare

ect so you are telling me that is less 11 weps at once or 8 at a time yes you may not be able to have everything at once however you can have more combinations with just 8 if I have to break it down even more for you then there is no hope for you



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The game is built around aggro management though you could probably get by with cc in its place. The party means you have 32 abilities per encounter which sounds like plenty to me. Don't get me wrong i wouldn't mind having access to all the abilities I've unlocked which probably wouldn't be more than 40 at max lvl but im also liking the idea of optimizing my current abilities, gear and potions for my current foe.
 
In regard to the previous games more isn't always better. The origins skill trees were awful forcing us to take multiple abilities that i personally never used because they weren't what i wanted but needed them to access higher abilities, also some of them were pretty worthless. The new game seems to have none of the trash of origins and you will be using pretty much every ability you have until late game which is an improvement imo.


I also prefer the DA2 tiers for Talents and Spells, but dislike having less of them available on the Quickbar. And now, we have eight, no design freedom for base designs, etc.

One step forward and others going back still means less overall, and a decided lack of progress.

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It's a more strategy base game now I think people will be at odds with at first but come to like it over time I disliked most games for along time that were not similar to BG2 style of combat because most games were easy and got used to it. I am always up for a challenge.



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Lol really now well at least I know your intelligence does not go far if you think you think I am wrong. 11/11 is 11 for combination

8/11 three is the difference. So to use a example

Sword/Mace/Axe/Gun/Knife/Hammer/Flare/Pistol/Katana/Saber/Cannon =1

Sword/Mace/Axe/Gun/knife/Hammer/Flare/Pistol

Sword/Mace/Axe/Gun/Katana/Saber/Cannon/Flare

ect so you are telling me that is less 11 weps at once or 8 at a time yes you may not be able to have everything at once however you can have more combinations with just 8 if I have to break it down even more for you then there is no hope for you

 

Adding artificial layer to one calculation and not adding it to another then saying that the first, with one layer more, gives more outcomes than the one with just one layer...

 

That's not statistics, or math. That's just magic. SPSS have mercy on your brain.



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I also prefer the DA2 tiers for Talents and Spells, but dislike having less of them available on the Quickbar. And now, we have eight, no design freedom for base designs, etc.

One step forward and others going back still means less overall, and a decided lack of progress.

Oh well all that really matters is that Inquisition has fun and engaging tactical combat. If the 8 ability limit feels like it negatively effects game-play we'll know in 3 weeks.



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Damn. All this money EA's supposedly handing out to praise Bio's games, and I still haven't got my hands on any of it.
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The power of PR is amazing. You are practicly follow a script for your answers. It makes me wonder how many people on these forums are actually hired posters to spread the PR message. I also wonder how many people swallow PR message, accept it without a thought and spread it. Almost like voluntary PR posters. 
They are obviously paying attention to the forums. When this thread first exploded they organized emergency gameplay stream to give people something else to talk about.


I am a self-pronounced Bioware fanboy, but this does not mean I do not have criticisms of their games. Did not purchase ME3 for a long time due to profanity, and only played ME2 once for the same reason. And have sim concerns for DAI, and hope this concern is avoidable.

Simply because one supports or criticizes a product does not automatically pigeon hole them into groups.

All that said, I hope it is possible for Bioware to reverse themselves on some or all of these restrictions and removals, and allow the Player to have the same kind of freedom promoted for appearances.

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Damn. All this money EA's supposedly handing out to praise Bio's games, and I still haven't got my hands on any of it.


I'd like to know where the recruitment booth is too. I'm doing it irregardless, might as well get dosh.
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Lol your are nuking it I would be spending the rest of the night if I was to witch the switch  all around on top of taking things in and out the top has nothing to take away just switch names around however the 8 has things to switch around along with taking in and out. Again you not thinking it right if it was about total number that would be different because the end result would be the same.



#2723
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Lol your are nuking it I would be spending the rest of the night if I was to witch the weps all around on top of taking things in and out the top has nothing to take away just switch names around however the 8 has things to switch around along with taking in and out. Again you not thinking it right if it was about total number that would be different because the end result would be the same.

 

You can't be serious.

 

You are testing DAI 8 ability restrictions with two independant variables and previous systems with one independant variable.

 

Not to mention that in previous system you could easily restrict yourself to 8 abilities, meaning that what you think gives more outcomes in DAI is also present in previous systems.


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Its funny how peoples maths is off and you want to bring up math if you have 15 out of 15 and can use 15 all you can do is switch them around in the bar no varaiation other then when you use the skill. If you have 8 out of 15 you have more variations due to the fact you can only use 8 at a time. I took higher learning math aka statistics if you had any idea of that concept you would understand that some of you don't know the simple foundation of doing math and I hate math. You have way more variety to top if off in this game/time around the prior games had more skills that were not so useful in certain areas some were ok. This game has more strategy in mind with the idea many people wont have the same build as others having a full bar of 15 and that's all there is for skills brings not much to the table meaning everyone would have the same setup then with a 8 variety without being able to use all of them at once. People need to understand the basics before you attempt to justify what you don't like about a game. I am not the greatest with math but sure as hell know the basics. Please before you try and say there is less variety come up with something vaild evidence other then what you think it to be. A perfect example would be dice when it comes to statistics.

 

 

Hahahah dude go back to school please, learn about the pascal triangle, combinations etc..

 

ok, lets not do the whole 15-15 8-15

let's make it shorter

 

available skills = {a,b,c,d}

 

Up to 2 skills from 4 available = 11 possibilities

{} {a} {b} {c} {d} {a,b} {a,c} {a,d} {b,c} {b,d} {c,d}

 

Up to 4 skills from 4 available = 16 possibilities

{} {a} {b} {c} {d} {a,b} {a,c} {a,d} {b,c} {b,d} {c,d} {a,b,c} {a,b,d} {a,c,d} {b,c,d} {a,b,c,d}

 

same goes for "up to 8 from 15" and "up to 15 from 15"

 

So yeah, learn to math.


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#2725
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Lol stop nuking it really if by choice you have only 8 that's up to you in prior titles however having only 15 skills and using the max 15 skills and say only being able to use 8 skills out of say 15 skills gives you more to be different then other players if all players have all 15 in a bar then all players will have the same setup how does everyone having the same skills in the bar make higher variation. We are not talking about total skills we are talking about the difference in gameplay how each individual will have a different play style due to the limited skill limit then all be able to use all the skills at once. Before you attempt to correct me you should be able to see what this is about before you say go back to school maybe you should do it yourself nice try :)