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[PrinceofTime]

So how strong we are, or how fast, or healthy or magically inclined seemingly depends on what we decide to wear. Do you know f*cking ridiculous this is? Your telling me they only difference between a mage and rogue stats wise is the clothes their wearing? Your telling me that i wont be able to cast a certain spell or use a certain skill or pick a damn weapon if im not wearing the right armor?  Bioware needs elaborate more on this asap.

[Lee80]

ugh...another disappointing announcement leading me to think that crafting is going to be shoved on us in the game.  Maybe not though, maybe the items you find in random looting will have good stats.  I'll try not to "panic" cause apparently disliking any choice BioWare makes means you are running around like a chicken with it's head cut off.  -rolls eyes- 

 

Either way, I'm annoyed by this development. 

[Paul E Dangerously]

YEP. 

 

This is turning into ME3 and DA2 all over again. Except this time the complaint is on gameplay. 

 

Prediction :- We will have a free Extended Cut DLC where we will have a Fade Spirit explain the ingenuity and integrity of game mechanics will be released post game. 

 

I wish it was turning into ME3. Say what you will about the writing, but the guys designing the gameplay end of it actually listened. They dropped the weapon restrictions on classes, added in a ton of new weapons and armors that were severely lacking in ME2, and gave us both weapon upgrading and weapon customization back. All the while making the weapons function differently so they weren't just clones with reskins like so many of ME1's were, which is what ME2 had attempted to fix.

[Lumix19]

It isn't trivial. LOL it's a staple of RPGs and one of the most common complaints of Skyrim. I mean really, what is there to streamline? There's six ****** attributes. It's not rocket science.

Except as some people have already pointed out it's really not.

[Steelcan]

YEP. 

 

This is turning into ME3 and DA2 all over again. Except this time the complaint is on gameplay. 

 

Prediction :- We will have a free Dragon Age Inquisition Extended Gameplay Cut DLC where we will have a Fade Spirit explain the ingenuity and integrity of game mechanics released post game. 

I'm sure we will find plenty to complain about story wise after release

[cjones91]

Ah BSN. Just when I thought you couldn't get upset over anything more trivial, this thread appears.

Bravo, everyone.

How the hell is changing something like attribute points that worked perfectly fine in two games and tying them to crafting trivial?

 

Seriously answer that.

 

 

This change was not needed.

[Steelcan]

Most people do prefer a loot and crafting based equipment system however, as it offers the best form of progression and gives you a sense of achievement.

And now that we're getting Skin schematics, we don't even have to worry about crafting something that looks like sh*t.

 

the one good thing I've heard so far
 

[Greenface21]

But it's not about "augmenting". It's about the opportunity cost, and augmenting it "properly". Let's pretend the stats work like DA:O. Armour that does +2 MAG and +2 WIS is worse compared to armour that gives +4 MAG for a mage, especially for a damage build. Getting a mage drop like the former and not the later is a problem. 

 

Is there really an "opportunity cost" if said +2 MAG and +2 WIS can be crafted with an extra +4 MAG? What about your entire armor set?  I think DAI will have a robust enough system to compensate.  

 

I think that's probably why there so many angry posts on this subject along with the healing and 8 ability limit. Everybody is comparing it to what they know.. in this case DAO.  All these limitations just give way to knee-jerk reactions..."Bioware is taking away xyz" "They don't know what they're doing". People need to relax and save the pitchforks for after launch. 

[Ryzaki]

I wish it was turning into ME3. Say what you will about the writing, but the guys designing the gameplay end of it actually listened. They dropped the weapon restrictions on classes, added in a ton of new weapons and armors that were severely lacking in ME2, and gave us both weapon upgrading and weapon customization back.

 

Yep and ME3's combat was so superior to ME2's I can't really go back.

[Steelcan]

ugh...another disappointing announcement leading me to think that crafting is going to be shoved on us in the game.  Maybe not though, maybe the items you find in random looting will have good stats.  I'll try not to "panic" cause apparently disliking any choice BioWare makes means you are running around like a chicken with it's head cut off.  -rolls eyes- 

 

Either way, I'm annoyed by this development. 

random loot gear is always crap

[Ryzaki]

the one good thing I've heard so far
 

 

Yep gonna find my fabulous outfit and rock that sucker til the wheels fall off

[Steelcan]

Yep gonna find my fabulous outfit and rock that sucker til the wheels fall off

here's hoping the armor isn't as ridiculous as in past games

[AresKeith]

here's hoping the armor isn't as ridiculous as in past games

 

From the armor I've seen so far, that look good

[Ryzaki]

here's hoping the armor isn't as ridiculous as in past games

 

I like that mage robe so far. The one the Qunari quizzy wears. Looks lovely.

 

random loot gear is always crap

 

Not always. You sometimes get that beautiful drop.

 

It's just nine times out of ten it's not for the character you're playing. (Particularly if you veer away from the default warrior types >_< )

[Lumix19]

How the hell is changing something like attribute points that worked perfectly fine in two games and tying them to crafting trivial?
 
Seriously answer that.
 
 
This change was not needed.

What I hear whenever anybody says something like this is that they want a carbon copy of a previous game (usually DA:O). This is a new game people, just relax a little bit.

[Steelcan]

From the armor I've seen so far, that look good

well that's good, I've lost hope of weapons ever bearing any resemblance to reality

[cjones91]

Lol. I can honestly say, the more I read these negative comments, the more excited I get about the game. It's as if the stats on equipment is a new concept here on BSN.

It's not a new concept but why exactly did attribute points have to be tied to gear?

 

You know the old saying "if it's not broke,don't fix it" applies perfectly to this change.

[n7stormrunner]

you know everytime I hear something new I'm reminded of that kid at christmas who throws out his old toys because he has new ones... this not something I am comforted by. really I like new things too but getting rid of nearly everything isn't a good idea. 

[AresKeith]

well that's good, I've lost hope of weapons ever bearing any resemblance to reality

 

Some of the weapons look good too

[sandalisthemaker]

So how strong we are, or how fast, or healthy or magically inclined seemingly depends on what we decide to wear. Do you know f*cking ridiculous this is? Your telling me they only difference between a mage and rogue stats wise is the clothes their wearing? Your telling me that i wont be able to cast a certain spell or use a certain skill or pick a damn weapon if im not wearing the right armor?  Bioware needs elaborate more on this asap.

 

Since I plan on changing Vivienne's outfit practically every 5 minutes due to her fabulous avant garde fashion sense, it's like she'll be a completely different person on the battlefield after each fight. 

[leaguer of one]

How the hell is changing something like attribute points that worked perfectly fine in two games and tying them to crafting trivial?

 

Seriously answer that.

 

 

This change was not needed.

They clearly wanted to make the game harder.

[Giantdeathrobot]

D&D spell use is all stat-based. It determines what you can cast, how well you can cast it, and how far you can advance.

 

But those stats didn't advance in level. The game just took your Int at level X, and calculated how many spell slots you got based on that (In 2nd ed, 3rd ed and further I didn't play) And if you wanted truly optimal builds in BG, you needed fast cast, extra spell slots, the works. And that came from gear. And lo and behold, it meant that every single mage build maxed Int and dumped the rest of their points in Con. How wonderfully original.

 

Plus, we don't know what proportion of attributes comes from abilities. Perhaps 3/4 of your attribute points come from picking your talents, the rest from gear, and power gamer will be able to shift that as desired. Might be convenient to be able to change attributes with your gear rather than having to respec every time.

 

Let's at least see how it plays out in-game before going on and on about the doomsaying, is all I mean.

[Ryzaki]

well that's good, I've lost hope of weapons ever bearing any resemblance to reality

 

 

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