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Are the Old Gods even really Dragons?


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Maverick_One

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The previous question I posted made me think of another question. High Dragons are supposed to be fully mature female dragons right? Then why isn't it the Old Goddesses? Are the Old Gods simply choosing to appear as Dragons, but if so why the gender bending? By that I mean taking a form typically female.



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Darth Spike

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For the same reason that female mages in Tevinter are called Magisters and not a female title. Its nothing but a sexist way of saying men are better. (Also show by the fact that Tevinter has only Male Divines instead f female ones.)



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@Darth I think you have a point on the whole "Magister/Magistrix" and gender of the Divine thing, but as to the actual issue at hand I'm not so sure. The Old Gods really seem to be something different from the ordinary dragons, given that we've seen Tainted dragons and they aren't quite the same as Archdemons. So we don't know that the Old Gods follow the draconic gender dimorphism rules as established for the rest of this setting.



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Maybe the Old Gods don't have a true gender, so they just appear as whatever creature appears most fearsome and powerful to them. Maybe the strict gender identification of "male" and "female," "god" and "goddess" is a human (or person) invention since mortals do have the gender binary, and they simply project that binary onto whatever it is they call "Old Gods."



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The previous question I posted made me think of another question. High Dragons are supposed to be fully mature female dragons right? Then why isn't it the Old Goddesses? Are the Old Gods simply choosing to appear as Dragons, but if so why the gender bending? By that I mean taking a form typically female.

 

Most likely they just chose the form of the biggest, scariest creature in Thedas.



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For the same reason that female mages in Tevinter are called Magisters and not a female title. Its nothing but a sexist way of saying men are better. (Also show by the fact that Tevinter has only Male Divines instead f female ones.)


Um, no, the Tevinter allow men and women to be Divine.

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They've got male names, but has any ever checked that the Archdemons have the required equipment?



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They've got male names, but has any ever checked that the Archdemons have the required equipment?

One might assume that the Wardens checked while bleeding them dry for the next few centuries worth of Joinings.



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They've got male names, but has any ever checked that the Archdemons have the required equipment?


The Magisters supposedly communicated with them, so it wouldn't surprise me if the Old Gods identified themselves as male in these communications.

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I liked how it was explained in Skyrim.  They are neither male or female but can appear as one or the other.  Some like to switch it up while others tend to stick to a certain sex.  Also I always thought the dragon and the old god were sperate beings until the dragon was tainted and OG merged/posessed it.  In the end its sex doesn't matter because world domination is more important than reproducing.



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Well, the Archdemon enemy isnt classified as either Darkspawn of Dragon



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@Darth I think you have a point on the whole "Magister/Magistrix" and gender of the Divine thing, but as to the actual issue at hand I'm not so sure. The Old Gods really seem to be something different from the ordinary dragons, given that we've seen Tainted dragons and they aren't quite the same as Archdemons. So we don't know that the Old Gods follow the draconic gender dimorphism rules as established for the rest of this setting.

mm to me Corypheus dragon is very similar to a tainted archedemon.

so they are dragons of male gender.



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I liked how it was explained in Skyrim.  They are neither male or female but can appear as one or the other.  Some like to switch it up while others tend to stick to a certain sex.  Also I always thought the dragon and the old god were sperate beings until the dragon was tainted and OG merged/posessed it.  In the end its sex doesn't matter because world domination is more important than reproducing.

I don't remember them ever explaining that in Skyrim. Alduin for ex was male. 

 

Anyways as for the thread, I think it's simply laziness in Bioware's writing. Obviously they are male dragons if the "Old gods" are addressed as such. In DA O the Arch Demon is addressed by he, his, him, etc multiple times, but they don't really explain why. Maybe perhaps they are the only males of their species that became that way and there are simply been no others. It could also have to do with magic. 



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mm to me Corypheus dragon is very similar to a tainted archedemon.
so they are dragons of male gender.


Cory's dragon is apparently just a regular high dragon tainted with red lyrium, nothing more.

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Was looking through the codex the other day and it said that the concept of there being male high dragons may have been lost to them because they only had recorded female. It's possible that there were only a few number of males and then...idk something happened. It would make sense that they'd have no records on it since High Dragons don't come out much and I'd assume they'd be dangerous to research