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The Power Fantasy: Good or Bad?


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Seraphim24

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Bad.

 

Power fantasies are weakness fantasies. Meting out vengeance isn't a symptom of strength, being able to accept/understand something is a symptom of strength. When someone genuinely has more power than something, they don't act in a lashed out angry manner towards it. I thought the original mass effect 3 ending was pretty cool for just the reason that it didn't go that direction.

 

Whenever I see bullies/bad guys getting theres or whatever in anything, whether it's a video game, anime, comics, I tune out.



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Well firstly, if you're average or lesser irl, you'll want to be awesome in a game, and if you're awesome irl, why would you want to play a lesser person ? Secondly, to do what you usually do in games like this, the PC has to be exceptionally skilled and powerful. If Hawke hadn't been a world-class badass s/he'd have died to the darkspawn in the prologue, or even at Ostagar in the case of warrior or rogue Hawkes. 

 

Personally I like being OP because I play for immersion and don't care for challenge. I want my character to be as powerful as possible so I can mow down everything. How is this fun you ask ? Why do you find struggling against mooks fun I reply. Also, for immersion. Someone who can fight and kill high dragons or defeat whatever uber thing the final boss is having trouble with a few human soldiers makes no sense. For exemple, mage Hawke defeated Corypheus in a magic duel, this makes mage Hawke one of the most powerful mages in history, fighting regular enemies should be akin to frying ants with a magnifier for someone like that   (which it is when you play on easy with a "broken" build)



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Here's what I mean by a power fantasy: the world revolves around the character rather than the character being part of the world. They're the only competent person in story. Another character's status as good guy or bad guy can be reliably correlated by how sympathetic they are to our hero. The hero never has to hold their nose and do something they don't like to win. They are inhumanly persuasive, despite their speeches not being that good. They can effect sweeping, positive changes in days despite being an outsider.
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Here's what I mean by a power fantasy: the world revolves around the character rather than the character being part of the world. They're the only competent person in story. Another character's status as good guy or bad guy can be reliably correlated by how sympathetic they are to our hero. The hero never has to hold their nose and do something they don't like to win. They are inhumanly persuasive, despite their speeches not being that good. They can effect sweeping, positive changes in days despite being an outsider.

So if they're a mary sue ?



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So if they're a mary sue ?

Exactly. Which usually leads to me deliberately screwing up out of boredom and quitting shortly thereafter.

The Warden doesn't really bother me, mostly because there are limits to what they can accomplish and various other members of the cast have their own agenda without being demonized.

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Well, as I said, a good Power Fantasy is reliant on your obstacles actually seeming and feeling difficult to overcome.



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I'm pretty live and let live. I just wanna do stuff I want, I don't care if other characters disagree or try to oppose me. Though occasionally there's people I really don't like and wish to get rid off. In some games very occasionally :P