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[RoraM]

"'Tis Flemeth you should beware of..." 

"She is no blood mage, no abomination...she is not even truly human."

-Morrigan, Witch Hunt

 

I strongly suspect Flemeth is the witch of Qunari legend with whom Calenhad Theirin trades a secret "to learn the ways of power" (Until We Sleep) in order to found Ferelden in 5:42 Exalted 18 years after the Fourth Blight. This would make her instrumental in the founding of Ferelden as well as key to creating a line able to waken dragons by virtue of possessing dragon blood.

 

By the time Flemeth encounters Maric Theirin around 8:96 Blessed, dragons are thought to be extinct and over half of the known Old Gods have been destroyed. She secures from him a promise for his future aid, which turns out to be helping her daughter, Yavana, rouse the still-living, but dormant, dragons (The Silent Grove).

 

When 9:21 Dragon rolls around, we learn from Morrigan that Flemeth's plan to secure the soul of an Old God free from the taint was her reason for saving only the most recently tainted Wardens.  The Old Gods themselves are likely the dragons who ruled the skies in the time before the existence of the Veil (The Silent Grove). 

 

What if Flemeth, herself, is an Old God, forced into hiding through the ages, transferring from body to body, much like an archdemon can hide by transferring from darkspawn to darkspawn unless slain by a Grey Warden? Did she, as Old Gods do (intentionally or not), call to the darkspawn, which would explain their eruption in the Korcari Wilds leading to the Battle of Ostagar? Does she seek to free her imprisoned brethren but is unable to on her own because she risks becoming tainted herself, giving her further motivation to see the Grey Wardens succeed because they have the best chance of eradicating darkspawn?

 

If Flemeth is an Old God who succeeds in returning to eminence, it will give a whole new meaning to the Dragon Age.

[myahele]

or maybe she's a great dragon queen?

[Ruairi46]

Shes just an old lady who talks too much silly.

[BloodKaiden]

Flemeth is awesome, nice theory.

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

Ive always been getting the Kreia vibe from Flemeth.

 

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Im positive they used Kreia as inspiration for Flemeth.

[Wolfen09]

nah, you're all not seeing it.... flemeth is just ogrhen in drag, hes doin it cause he thinks its hilarious, funny drunken dwarves and their pranks

[bootyislovebootyislife]

Yo if Flemmeth wasn't chill, my dog would've barked at her dude, we're good.

[AlexiaRevan]

Ive always been getting the Kreia vibe from Flemeth.

 

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Im positive they used Kreia as inspiration for Flemeth.

I loved Kreia , and I love Flemeth . But actually , there is another vilain Flemeth is like alot more then Kreia . (though both kreia and flemeth share the seeing the futur gift) , but we know how kreia end . I doubt Flemeth will go that route after living so long . 

 

Alti from Xena the warrior Princess is alot like Flemeth . (not in power , but in being that greater evil that always come back...which is kinda flemeth since none was able to kill her so far) . 

 

I saw a big topic once , about what flemeth was . And the 'Old God' banished or some sort..is the one that always come back . And I like to believe it . I doubt she want mortal powers , since she is stronger then any mortal that exist . I think she want something greater . Time will only tell if it is sinister or not . I for one , would love if they make a new Dragon Age with a story centered around her . I think she is a greater vilain and there is alot of pential there for a good story . And I don't fear her lol I think she is badass ! 

[Doominike]

If she's an old god that means she's archdemon level, we can kill archdemons, at least one person, possibly 2 or 3, can take them single-handedly. No reason to fear her. Plus she seems ok so far

[noxpanda]

Yo if Flemmeth wasn't chill, my dog would've barked at her dude, we're good.

Haha so true! I was replaying Origins not long ago and only then noticed that every abom/demon/evil thing going the dog picks up on. Mabari should take over as templars.

 

I personally think flemeth is an escaped old god, though what her intentions are who knows (well other than to survive). I think shes awesome

[raging_monkey]

Ive always been getting the Kreia vibe from Flemeth.
 

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Im positive they used Kreia as inspiration for Flemeth.

i felt the same, wise and cruel but fair and kind her own way

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

i felt the same, wise and cruel but fair and kind her own way

Wise I can agree with but I kinda disagree on the kind/cruel part. 

 

They both feel more neutral. As in - they wouldnt hesitate to kill someone or feel bad about it if they did, but they wouldnt do it just for "fun" either. IMO they view life as "Everyone dies anyway" in a sort of nihilistic way, but I dont think any of them would derive pleasure in killing. So being cruel and/or kind I kinda disagree with.   

My feeling about Kreia and Flemeth, is that they both seem like they have a sort of "ascended" personality. In the way that they are extremely wise, perceptive and aware of their world and themselves. Trying to find greater answer or meaning. "Grown out of good and evil" is the words I would use. Bored of mortal machinations. 

Cold, pragmatical and wise - yes. But kind and cruel both doesent fit. If anything I would consider them both moral nihilists (http://en.wikipedia..../Moral_nihilism) not sure if you would agree on that? 

However what they both seem to have the most in common imo - is that the world hurt them... alot.

I could be completely wrong ofcourse. For all I know the person writing Flemeth and / or Kreia would read my post here and facepalm in frustration over how erroneous I am

 

[raging_monkey]

Wise I can agree with but I kinda disagree on the kind/cruel part. 
 
They both feel more neutral. As in - they wouldnt hesitate to kill someone or feel bad about it if they did, but they wouldnt do it just for "fun" either. IMO they view life as "Everyone dies anyway" in a sort of nihilistic way, but I dont think any of them would derive pleasure in killing. So being cruel and/or kind I kinda disagree with.   
My feeling about Kreia and Flemeth, is that they both seem like they have a sort of "ascended" personality. In the way that they are extremely wise, perceptive and aware of their world and themselves. Trying to find greater answer or meaning. "Grown out of good and evil" is the words I would use. Bored of mortal machinations. 
Cold, pragmatical and wise - yes. But kind and cruel both doesent fit. If anything I would consider them both moral nihilists (http://en.wikipedia..../Moral_nihilism) not sure if you would agree on that? 
However what they both seem to have the most in common imo - is that the world hurt them... alot.
I could be completely wrong ofcourse. For all I know the person writing Flemeth and / or Kreia would read my post here and facepalm in frustration over how erroneous I am

i can agree that they nihlists

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

Flemeth isn't such a big deal as people make her out to be. Remember, she only survived being slain by the Warden by tricking Hawke into organizing her resurrection. Nice bit of witchcraft, but we've seen more impressive feats.

[Doominike]

Flemeth isn't such a big deal as people make her out to be. Remember, she only survived being slain by the Warden by tricking Hawke into organizing her resurrection. Nice bit of witchcraft, but we've seen more impressive feats.

Ya, like I mentioned above. If she starts serious sh-stuff the Warden can just kick her ass again

[Lilaeth]

Whatever she is, she's awesome, and she has Captain Janeway's voice as a bonus.

[fhs33721]

Flemeth isn't such a big deal as people make her out to be. Remember, she only survived being slain by the Warden by tricking Hawke into organizing her resurrection. Nice bit of witchcraft, but we've seen more impressive feats.

Yeah, no need to worry about the incredibly powerful mage that has ways to come back from the dead and that anticipated her own death and outsmarted you by having a failsave ressurection plan that rendered your efforts to kill her pointless because she was already back alive at best (depending on when you kill her) a few months later. Add to that the question if she really used all her powers to fight the Warden (because if she actually killed you her blight-ending plan would fail, so she has a reason to let you win) and the fact that she seems to be able to see the future to some degree and you see that she isn't a big deal at all. Right?

Oh no wait, that rather sounds like someone who would be a real pain to have as enemy.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Just let me kill her for good i don't need another crazy social darwinist mage or at least magic user around.

[Doominike]

Nah we totes kicked her ass. Pretty hard too according to how it went in my games

[raging_monkey]

Just let me kill her for good i don't need another crazy social darwinist mage or at least magic user around.

whats wrong with social darwinism its fair? And why kill a powerful asset(killed her once but she came back so theres no point in trying again imo)

[TheKomandorShepard]

whats wrong with social darwinism its fair? And why kill a powerful asset(killed her once but she came back so theres no point in trying again imo).

Well it may be fair but it is dangerous to me (and pretty much to any other person) im not very loyal person but last thing i want around is another not very loyal person.So it is bad for me pretty much look at mages that caused blights.

 

Because she is dangerous by many factors as i pointed she is social darwinist with own goals i don't need another power hungry mage that destroy everything in their way to get what they want. 

[Who Knows]

whats wrong with social darwinism its fair? And why kill a powerful asset(killed her once but she came back so theres no point in trying again imo)

Social darwinism fair? lolwut

[Doominike]

There's zero proof that mages caused Blights, the Black City is the source of the Taint and it was already black when the Magisters got there