They've explicitly said they did.
But that doesn't matter. The writer's intent dies the instant the words hit the page.
Uh, yes, right, In Exile's other post made it pretty clear. I just got confused because I misunderstood the one directed at me at first. ^^'
It's not nostalgia. So far, the voiced protagonist does a terrible job of providing decent roleplaying gameplay.A big gaming company won't make a bad-non profit decision because of your nostalgia.
My point is when we had text only it would allow in the game so much more to say.
For example DAO:Five or six choices of phrases.Mass Effect:only three.
I understand that voice files take more place and because of that quality of dialogues suffer.
As I said a voiced PC will cause limitations. But overall the quality is better, from personality, to character interactions, to basic dialogue, even emotions. Voiced PC's create a better overall experience.
I completely agree with this, but for me it's the characters over which I have the moat control. In the older games, even the companions were mine. Edwin and Xan and Coran were as much my characters as the Bhaalspawn was.The only characters I can see as " mine" are characters who give me enough information to RP right.
I disagree; BioWare dialogue pretty much always broke down into the nice/harsh/investigation lines (with occasional joke option thrown in), something David Gaider and others tend to point out whenever this topic pops up. As such, I never found it any more unpredictable or confusing than the voiced version -- when you have the dialogue provided verbatim and the intended tone is easy to infer the room for confusion is minimal.
It started in Mass Effect.And now every BW game they voicing the hero.
But in old games like DAO and others we had only text and it was great.
I would like to place a request to return to that.Please.
Didn't you say you wouldn't buy the game?
On topic, I feel more immersed in whatever I'm doing if everyone is talking. One of them being a mute with telepathy just kind of forces me out of it.
None of which matter if we don't have control over them.As I said a voiced PC will cause limitations. But overall the quality is better, from personality, to character interactions, to basic dialogue, even emotions. Voiced PC's create a better overall experience.
I think paraphrases are way more unpredictable and confusing than the full lines we got in Origins. Though I'm unsure if I uderstood correctly what you mean by "giving you enough Information to RP" - you're saying that the writers had specific emotions and tone in mind that you dont know when choosing the written lines, right?
Just like talking to a real person.How did the Warden call Alistair a "royal bastard"? Was it an obvious joking tone, and Alistair joked back? Was it aggressive and insulting, and Alistair deflected it with humour? We *know* whether he approved or disapproved so the whole interaction becomes very confusing.
That's true, but the fixed tone is as big a problem.That's the problem. The paraphrase is a wholly separate issue from VO.
None of which matter if we don't have control over them.
Doesn't matter if we have control over them or not. A well voiced character is a well voiced character period.
I'm going to point blank disagree with OP here.
If Bioware went in what I considered a backwards direction and returned to text only PC I would almost certainly give the game a miss.
I'm currently replaying DAO and the lack of voice is the biggest thing I miss, and it makes the game seem dated
Did Morrowind ever show us the full line, though?In terms of your question, yes. As to the paraphrase, that's a separate issue . It's bad UI but that has nothing to do with VO. Morrowind had nothing but key terms and paraphrases and no VO.
Just like talking to a real person.
What you describe was a good feature.
That's true, but the fixed tone is as big a problem.
A character I don't control is a character in which I have no interest. How authentic his performance only becomes relevant after that first hurdle is cleared.Doesn't matter if we have control over them or not. A well voiced character is a well voiced character period.
But you can headcanon your tone, which gives you exactly as much information as the real world does.That's not at all like talking to a real person. You have different variables IRL, namely, your own action and tone (which you can perceive) and their reaction. With silent PCs you either ONLY have the reaction OR the reaction and a metaphysically true indication of their internal subjective state.
But you can headcanon your tone, which gives you exactly as much information as the real world does.
You can't head-canon the tone of a line a writer wrote to be a specific thing. You can imagine it but it's not necessarily true to your imagination.
But you can headcanon your tone, which gives you exactly as much information as the real world does.
Sure you can. The writer's intent didn't make it into the game - only the words did.You can't head-canon the tone of a line a writer wrote to be a specific thing. You can imagine it but it's not necessarily true to your imagination.
It isn't in the world. Show it to me.You can't head cannon the tone. The tone is a definite thing in the world - you just don't have access to it.
All roleplaying is in your imagination. I would argue that my entire real world personality is nothing more than headcanon. I decide what it is, and I express it as I choose.
Now you're just being silly. Not that other people haven't argued about this with you before and no conclusion came of it, so i'll just abstain as neither of us will reach an agreement.
Again, I disagree; the means to tell the intent were the placement and presence of other lines. The nice lines were generally on top, the aggressive ones on the bottom, investigations and/or jokes in the middle. To take a look a the specific example you bring up:The difference between DAO and DA2 is that DAO offered no means to actually tell what line was what, or how it was delivered to properly evaluate an NPC reaction.
How did the Warden call Alistair a "royal bastard"? Was it an obvious joking tone, and Alistair joked back? Was it aggressive and insulting, and Alistair deflected it with humour? We *know* whether he approved or disapproved so the whole interaction becomes very confusing.
That's the problem. The paraphrase is a wholly separate issue from VO.
I never noticed this when playing the silent protagonist games, and I would have liked them less if I had.Again, I disagree; the means to tell the intent were the placement and presence of other lines.
I feel the same way OP. When playing a voiced main character, I don't feel it's MY character. Shepard. Hawke. Those are Bioware's characters, which is fine I guess, but it doesn't allow me to take the role of the protagonist the same way as Origins did.
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