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[archav3n]

I've ordered all the parts for my new PC now, I'm stoked! I'm only keeping the case, the rest is all new!

 

CPU: Intel i7 4790k

Mobo: Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 7

PSU: Superflower 1000W Platinum

Mem: 16GB (2x8GB) 2400mhz DDR3

GPU: MSI Geforce GTX 970

Sound: Creative Sound Blaster Zx

Boot HD: Samsung EVO 1TB SSD

Storage HD: Western Digital 4TB Caviar Black

CPU heatsink: Corsair Hydro H80i

Bluray drive: LG 16x BD-RW

 

I also got some really nice headphones for sound: Beyerdynamic DT770 PRO (250 ohm)

They will last me until I can afford to buy new speakers.

 

970 is a good choice. I would go personally 980 to match your other components

[BellPeppers&Beef023]

970 is a good choice. I would go personally 980 to match your other components

 

Nah, 970 + overclock = 980

[Hellspont]

Gamer Ultra 2175 AMD FX-8100 8-core 2.8GHz 64bit, 8GB RAM
AMD Radeon R7 250 2GB

 

 

Whatcha think? 

[Deathangel008]

I've ordered all the parts for my new PC now, I'm stoked! I'm only keeping the case, the rest is all new!
 
CPU: Intel i7 4790k
Mobo: Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 7
PSU: Superflower 1000W Platinum
Mem: 16GB (2x8GB) 2400mhz DDR3
GPU: MSI Geforce GTX 970
Sound: Creative Sound Blaster Zx
Boot HD: Samsung EVO 1TB SSD
Storage HD: Western Digital 4TB Caviar Black
CPU heatsink: Corsair Hydro H80i
Bluray drive: LG 16x BD-RW
 
I also got some really nice headphones for sound: Beyerdynamic DT770 PRO (250 ohm)
They will last me until I can afford to buy new speakers.

lol @ 1000W PSU. are you going for a quad SLI or do you simply dont know how much energy a normal PC consumes?
 

Gamer Ultra 2175 AMD FX-8100 8-core 2.8GHz 64bit, 8GB RAM
AMD Radeon R7 250 2GB

ftfy.

[Gill Kaiser]

970 is a good choice. I would go personally 980 to match your other components

I thought about it, but it's almost twice the price and only around 20% better, so I think I'd rather just get another 970 in SLI if I need more. I'm probably only going to be running 1920x1200 for the most part, nothing crazy.

[Gill Kaiser]

lol @ 1000W PSU.

That came as part of a discounted bundle deal, and it can't hurt, eh? I may need it 5-10 years down the line.

[Onallion]

Cool, thanks for answering. I hope it will be added into the game at some point.

I guess for now I can use an external program to force borderless fullscreen, hope it works right

[Deathangel008]

That came as part of a discounted bundle deal, and it can't hurt, eh? I may need it 5-10 years down the line.

its just oversized as hell, your system will need less than 400W under load without OC, and a PSU that big works not as efficient as a smaller one, like with 500W.

[Gill Kaiser]

its just oversized as hell, your system will need less than 400W under load without OC, and a PSU that big works not as efficient as a smaller one, like with 500W.

I agree it's excessive for my current build, but the saving on the bundle was good overall, and I was planning to get an 800w PSU anyway to allow for future SLI and overclocking.

[Brogan]

Nah, 970 + overclock = 980

 

Just a FYI, I had to remove my oc from my gtx 760 to play BF4...

 

Would constantly CTD if upped by the slightest smidge.

[Brogan]

970. Manged to snag it when it was available on newegg XD

 

Hmmph...  I'm in the process of deciding if I need to mull over an upgrade.  The 970 certainly seems to be ideal.  My 760 is only a few months old, but like you posted a few pages back, if there's any game that deserves to be maxed out, it's this one.

 

So I'm also wondering if I get the 980 in November, will I be weeping in February?

 

Ahh... to mull, or not to mull...

[Fidite Nemini]

Hmmph...  I'm in the process of deciding if I need to mull over an upgrade.  The 970 certainly seems to be ideal.  My 760 is only a few months old, but like you posted a few pages back, if there's any game that deserves to be maxed out, it's this one.

 

So I'm also wondering if I get the 980 in November, will I be weeping in February?

 

Ahh... to mull, or not to mull...

 

If you are contemplating dropping enough money for a GTX 980, don't. Drop that money on a GTX 780 Ti instead. Clock per clock, the GTX 780 Ti is still faster and with a decent custom design card you can easily reach the same clock speeds as a GTX 980. At that point the only advantage the GTX 980 has over the 780 Ti is lower power draw and slightly better performance at higher than normal resolutions and it will be up to a hundred bucks cheaper than a GTX 980.

[Brogan]

If you are contemplating dropping enough money for a GTX 980, don't. Drop that money on a GTX 780 Ti instead. Clock per clock, the GTX 780 Ti is still faster and with a decent custom design card you can easily reach the same clock speeds as a GTX 980. At that point the only advantage the GTX 980 has over the 780 Ti is lower power draw and slightly better performance at higher than normal resolutions and it will be up to a hundred bucks cheaper than a GTX 980.

If that's the only advantages you believe the 980 holds over the 780ti, I have some land to sell you.

[Fidite Nemini]

If that's the only advantages you believe the 980 holds over the 780ti, I have some land to sell you.

 

 

Please try to.

 

 

What exactly are those other advantages? I'm willing to listen and debunk if necessary.

[Deathangel008]

full DX11.2 support for example?

[Fidite Nemini]

full DX11.2 support for example?

 

 

So far nothing but a pretty version number. In all game benchmarks, an equally clocked GTX 780 Ti is faster than a GTX 980 and there are no games out yet or in developement that manage to use the new DirectX efficient enough to make up for that (in fact, I did not find any word about any developer saying stuff about DX 11.2, so I doubt there's much games that use it at all right now).

 

Considering that DirectX 11.2 is only available for Windows 8.1 (or the upcoming Windows 10) and not for any OS version below that and comparing that to the fact that most people still stick to Windows 7 (mostly for good reasons), there is little incentive for developers to use 11.2 over 11.1, or alternatively MUCh incentive to ensure compatibility with 11.1, making the 11.2 largely irrelevant a factor for performance until a significant part of target customers switched to the new OS (at which time the Maxwell refresh will probably be out already with hopefully enough performance boost to warrant upgrading from a 7xx series GPU).

[ekeron]

I'm planning on getting a gtx 970.

 

Would an FX-8320 be good choice for a cpu? Chose it for price and future-proofing.

 

Also, if 8gb of ram is required, does that mean we'll need to have more than 8gb to compensate for any ram our computer is using outside of the game?

[Brogan]

Please try to.

 

 

What exactly are those other advantages? I'm willing to listen and debunk if necessary.

 

Well, like I said, I'm just looking at what the options are now and what might be available down the line.  There are quite a few 'promises' on the Nvidia side that I'm not ready to put any kind of faith in yet.

 

But not to get too technical, and from some very light reading up, the Maxwell architecture is very different from the 780Ti, and is loaded with more efficient processing techs, the ROPs per clock and the new tessellation engine being 2 of them.  There are a couple of new, not even released features that will be key moving forward, like DSR, VXGI, and MFAA.  And yes, DX12 is a factor, if only because the 780Ti is an EOL card.

 

Also, there's other features that come into play, first cards in the world that support the HDMI 2.0 standard (full 4K @ 60 Hz), Shadowplay at 60 fps, H.265 (HEVC) encoding support.

 

Again, I'm looking to see if the 980 would be an option now that wouldn't need to be changed out for at least another 1.5 - 2 years.  While the 780Ti is a monster, and will obviously play everything out now, DA:I included at max, I'm thinking about the 2nd wave of games that will be flooding the market within the next 8-12 months that will be specc'd much higher than what we have now.

[Fidite Nemini]

I'm planning on getting a gtx 970.

 

Would an FX-8320 be good choice for a cpu? Chose it for price and future-proofing.

 

Also, if 8gb of ram is required, does that mean we'll need to have more than 8gb to compensate for any ram our computer is using outside of the game?

 

 

FX 8320 is a very good budget gaming CPU. It won't let you down.

 

And no, 8GB is more than sufficient for everything at this time. The only problems you could encounter are either if you do massive data crunching and need the additional data throughput, or if you have to make due with terribly bad optimized games suffering from memory leak. That said, RAM is pretty cheap these days and unless you can get faster RAM (higher clock) at a good price, simply adding more RAM won't cut much into a budget if you want to account for memory intensive tasks.

 

 

 

 

 

Again, I'm looking to see if the 980 would be an option now that wouldn't need to be changed out for at least another 1.5 - 2 years.  While the 780Ti is a monster, and will obviously play everything out now, DA:I included at max, I'm thinking about the 2nd wave of games that will be flooding the market within the next 8-12 months that will be specc'd much higher than what we have now.

 

 

To that end, it would be more cost effective to go with a "good enough" GPU and save up for the Maxwell refresh. I generally recommend skipping one generation between hardware releases because the relative performance gain over their predecessors has been decreasing swiftly since years.

 

And by the time new games will be demanding enough to make a good contemporary GPU sweat and benefit from new features, the new generation will either be out already or just waiting at the door, which will come with again more performance and more new features (plus you having more money saved up, so you can buy the GTX 1080 Ti (or however they'll be going to name it)).

 

If you really want the new features AND serious power right now, the GTX 970 is your best bet. Out of the released Maxwell GPUs it has by far the best price/performance ratio.

[Brogan]

So far nothing but a pretty version number. In all game benchmarks, an equally clocked GTX 780 Ti is faster than a GTX 980

 

I wouldn't go that far, the Toms review back in September had the 980 beating the 780Ti in almost every game they tested (save for Watchdogs and ACIV)

[Fidite Nemini]

I wouldn't go that far, the Toms review back in September had the 980 beating the 780Ti in almost every game they tested (save for Watchdogs and ACIV)

 

Was it equally clocked?

 

I only have a German test about that, but between a GTX 780 Ti @1200MHz and a GTX 980 @ 1200MHz, the former was around 5-10% faster in every tested game, even at a resolution that's more into the GTX 980's homefiald (1600p).

 

The Maxwell cores have 35% more performance than the Kepler ones, but the GTX 780 Ti has more than 35% more cores than a GTX 980 for example. The GTX 980 is better at most synthetic benchmarks though.

 

5-10% more performance isn't much, but going out of EOL I found the GTX 780 Ti can be found as cheap as a hundred bucks less than a GTX 980 and that's certainly a bargain if the higher efficiency isn't a big selling point for you.

[Deathangel008]

In all game benchmarks, an equally clocked GTX 780 Ti is faster than a GTX 980[...]

40% more shaderunits, much higher energy consumption and maybe sometimes 10% faster. yeah, of course the 780ti is the better card...
also dont forget that you are comparing a mid-end chip (GM204) with a high-end chip (GK110)...

anyways i would either buy a GTX970 now and have fun with it or wait for GM200.

[RifuloftheWest]

I wouldn't go that far, the Toms review back in September had the 980 beating the 780Ti in almost every game they tested (save for Watchdogs and ACIV)

 

If you take a closer look, specifically clock for clock, the 780ti performs on par.

 

Most benchmark reviews were using a reference 780ti mostly for comparisons but when an overclocked 780ti (@ 1200MHz+ boost) was compared, then the gap between the two cards was negligible.

 

The 980 would then require a 1400MHz - 1500MHz overclock in order to gain a mere 5-10% performance advantage.

 

Having said that, once the drivers mature I think the performance figures for the GM204 cards will improve. Currently DSR is only available with Maxwell, and I believe the new MFAA feature will be Maxwell only. There is also something to be said about having 3 Display Port I/O on one card as well.

[Osena109]

I have evga  g2 850 watt psu powering my rig  but only because i got it on sell at a local  story i only paid 100 dollars for it

[Fidite Nemini]

40% more shaderunits, much higher energy consumption and maybe sometimes 10% faster. yeah, of course the 780ti is the better card...
also dont forget that you are comparing a mid-end chip (GM204) with a high-end chip (GK110)...

anyways i would either buy a GTX970 now and have fun with it or wait for GM200.

 

 

The important part is that it's also cheaper than the GTX 980. At least everywhere I've looked (which did not mean everywhere mind you, maybe it's just that cheap in Germany, who knows).

 

And for more performance for less bucks is quite attractive in my opinion. The energy efficiency of the Maxwell GPU is a longterm thing to consider to the price, but if he'd take the 780 Ti as a holdout until the next generation of Maxwell GPU comes around, it might well be worth it (especially if he can resell the GPU for a couple hundred bucks to add to his new budget!).