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[Ryzaki]

Are you sure it is coil whine? Many confuse fan noise and coil whine.

 

If it is coil whine, you could try increasing the voltage to the card in order to change the frequency range of the transistors of the card's VRM. That may remove the coil whine.

 

Or sometimes after some use the frequency range the transistors operate at fluctuate on their own and the coil whine goes away by itself.

 

Well it wasn't there when I was playing with my GTX 570 this morning so *shrug*

 

Yeah I'm just gonna wait. I don't wanna change the voltage and make it worse XD

[RifuloftheWest]

Well it wasn't there when I was playing with my GTX 570 this morning so *shrug*

 

Yeah I'm just gonna wait. I don't wanna change the voltage and make it worse XD

 

I hear ya.

 

Hopefully, it goes away after some use or at least remains at a level that you can tolerate it.

[Joe-Poe]

Here is a good vid demo of coil whine.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=HP73edpQwgc

Double post sorry.....

[Joe-Poe]

Here is a good vid demo of coil whine.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=HP73edpQwgc

You would have to have super sonic hearing to hear that with it in a case and with the fans running, not to mention the sound of the game....No big deal...

[Ryzaki]

I hear ya.

 

Hopefully, it goes away after some use or at least remains at a level that you can tolerate it.

 

Oh I can tolerate it XD believe my 570 was so much worse. Idled at ~50C and sounded like a jet most of the time. I can deal with this gladly in comparison.

 

This on the other hand is fairly quiet and idles at 34C. And I can play Skyrim without the framerate plummeting if I turn my character too fast.  Lovely

[RifuloftheWest]

You would have to have super sonic hearing to hear that with it in a case and with the fans running, not to mention the sound of the game....No big deal...

 

Many PC enthusiasts have extremely quiet rigs (even with several case fans) and the noise from a graphics card suffering from coil whine can be very pronounced. There are also the situations where the more demanding the game, the louder the whine gets.

 

But different people have different tolerances to the noise of coil whine along with the degree of whine varying from setup to setup.

 

Personally, I have been fortunate in never having this issue in any of computers. Hopefully, that trend continues with the arrival of my new graphics card.

[Barrett Rodych]

So after finally giving the 970 a whirl under load (see sig link for the particular model), I could indeed hear a bit of whine. While I had all audio muted. Totally fine unless you prefer gaming completely silently.

 

Barrett Approves +970

[In Exile]

So after finally giving the 970 a whirl under load (see sig link for the particular model), I could indeed hear a bit of whine. While I had all audio muted. Totally fine unless you prefer gaming completely silently.

 

Barrett Approves +970

 

What's your thinking for the 970 over the 980? I'm building a similar PC (some parts differences, e.g. motherboard). I've been debating the graphics card a great deal. Is there added value (vs. cost) for the 980? Is there a benefit to looking at another nvidia card? 

[Barrett Rodych]

What's your thinking for the 970 over the 980? I'm building a similar PC (some parts differences, e.g. motherboard). I've been debating the graphics card a great deal. Is there added value (vs. cost) for the 980? Is there a benefit to looking at another nvidia card? 

TBH, I heard excitement for the line/series from a few, had heard good things about EVGA's service & support, and the 970 fit right into my budget better than the 980. Lately I've also favoured Nvidia's drivers over AMD's, but mostly just from my own limited experiences. That's it in a nutshell really. I'm not all that versed in hardware details and specs anymore, don't have the time or patience to keep up with tech news. So I couldn't really say which is the better choice for performance vs cost. This thread sure has a crazy amount of knowledge being dropped though!

[unclee]

So after finally giving the 970 a whirl under load (see sig link for the particular model), I could indeed hear a bit of whine. While I had all audio muted. Totally fine unless you prefer gaming completely silently.

 

Barrett Approves +970

 

A nice headset will take care of blocking out any extra noises coming from your machine. I'm very fond of my Logitech G430 headset.

[Barrett Rodych]

A nice headset will take care of blocking out any extra noises coming from your machine. I'm very fond of my Logitech G430 headset.

Astro A50s, representing. So expensive. But so good.

[SilentCid]

What's your thinking for the 970 over the 980? I'm building a similar PC (some parts differences, e.g. motherboard). I've been debating the graphics card a great deal. Is there added value (vs. cost) for the 980? Is there a benefit to looking at another nvidia card? 

 

 

970 is the sweet spot so far between the two cards and not much overclocking required to get 980 performance. It's like when the 680 and the 670 came out and people were going for the 670.

[Maliken]

I'm using the Gigabyte G1 GTX 970, comes with a really good factory overclock, comes with a nice backplate too. It's incredibly silent too, only experienced slight coil whine in certain menus in games, for example Skyrim.  It's only downside is that it's a rather long card, but I can just about fit anything in my case.

 

[In Exile]

 

TBH, I heard excitement for the line/series from a few, had heard good things about EVGA's service & support, and the 970 fit right into my budget better than the 980. Lately I've also favoured Nvidia's drivers over AMD's, but mostly just from my own limited experiences. That's it in a nutshell really. I'm not all that versed in hardware details and specs anymore, don't have the time or patience to keep up with tech news. So I couldn't really say which is the better choice for performance vs cost. This thread sure has a crazy amount of knowledge being dropped though!

 

 

Fair enough. I'm just leaning towards a 1440p display now and I want to make sure I can really get max performance. I've been saving up enough that I can afford a top-of-the-line machine, and I'm looking forward to max performance. 

 

970 is the sweet spot so far between the two cards and not much overclocking required to get 980 performance. It's like when the 680 and the 670 came out and people were going for the 670.

I'm using the Gigabyte G1 GTX 970, comes with a really good factory overclock, comes with a nice backplate too. It's incredibly silent too, only experienced slight coil whine in certain menus in games, for example Skyrim.  It's only downside is that it's a rather long card, but I can just about fit anything in my case.

 

Will it run much hotter if I overclock it to 980 performance? I'm not skilled enough in hardware to really do heavy-duty maintenance. Assembly 

[archav3n]

@InExile

How you define max performance? If you want maximum performance in 1440p 60fps, you probably need dual card in SLI or CrossFire. Even with dual card i don't think it's possible with max out AA. 2xSMAA is really good enough for me which with high resolution, AA is not a big deal.

[Maliken]

 

 

 

 

Fair enough. I'm just leaning towards a 1440p display now and I want to make sure I can really get max performance. I've been saving up enough that I can afford a top-of-the-line machine, and I'm looking forward to max performance. 

 

Will it run much hotter if I overclock it to 980 performance? I'm not skilled enough in hardware to really do heavy-duty maintenance. Assembly 

 

 

I've overclocked it past stock GTX 980 performance, and temperature is around the 70-76C area, never seen it go beyond 80C. 

 

Currently using a Dell UltraSharp U2711 monitor, also a 1440p display, and even with out-of-the-box settings the GTX 970 should give you excellent performance. Whether you can max out a game really depends, I can pretty much run Tomb Raider with the highest settings and never dip below 60 fps but Company of Heroes 2 for example is still quite taxing, and without using the highest settings it's around the 40-50 fps range in battles. 

[In Exile]

I've overclocked it past stock GTX 980 performance, and temperature is around the 70-76C area, never seen it go beyond 80C. 

 

Currently using a Dell UltraSharp U2711 monitor, also a 1440p display, and even with out-of-the-box settings the GTX 970 should give you excellent performance. Whether you can max out a game really depends, I can pretty much run Tomb Raider with the highest settings and never dip below 60 fps but Company of Heroes 2 for example is still quite taxing, and without using the highest settings it's around the 40-50 fps range in battles. 

@InExile

How you define max performance? If you want maximum performance in 1440p 60fps, you probably need dual card in SLI or CrossFire. Even with dual card i don't think it's possible with max out AA. 2xSMAA is really good enough for me which with high resolution, AA is not a big deal.

 

The FPS is a bit less important to me than the actual sharpness, quality etc. of the imagine, so I'm OK with 40 FPS vs. 60 FPS for increased visual fidelity. Smooth edges, better textures, etc. AA is less important, yeah, but I think it'd take AA over the +20 FPS. 

[Brogan]

The FPS is a bit less important to me than the actual sharpness, quality etc. of the imagine, so I'm OK with 40 FPS vs. 60 FPS for increased visual fidelity. Smooth edges, better textures, etc. AA is less important, yeah, but I think it'd take AA over the +20 FPS. 

 

I'm in the same boat as you, though I'm still at 1080p.  But there's no way I'd get the 970 over the 980.  There's a level of quality I would want to maintain as the newer games come out.

[Maliken]

The difference between the 970 and 980 is minimal. If a game struggles on the 970, it'll struggle on the 980.

I'd rather save the $200 for a future upgrade. That being said, I think you'll be set for the next few years with either of these cards.

[SilentCid]

Astro A50s, representing. So expensive. But so good.

 

I would of gone with Sennheiser G4ME Zero/One with headphone amp or the Beyerdynamic MMX 300. The Sennheiser is extremely comfortable to wear for long periods of gaming. For me it really does bring out the awesomeness out of games.

[SilentCid]

I'm in the same boat as you, though I'm still at 1080p.  But there's no way I'd get the 970 over the 980.  There's a level of quality I would want to maintain as the newer games come out.

 

970 and 980 cards can render the game at higher resolutions and shrink it back down to 1080p. Like getting 4K on 1080p.

 

 

and does MFAA

 

[Brogan]

My point is that if I were going to buy a card now, I'd want the best out there so that I am as prepared as I can be to at least have the option of maxing out not just current titles, but for future titles as well.  And my price range is significant, but not ridiculous (I won't be spending more than $600)

 

Thing is, there's a very palpable sense among the tech community that there will be new cards coming out soon.  And since I'm running a 2GB GTX 760 right now, I can afford to wait and see what might become available and gather info.

[In Exile]

My point is that if I were going to buy a card now, I'd want the best out there so that I am as prepared as I can be to at least have the option of maxing out not just current titles, but for future titles as well.  And my price range is significant, but not ridiculous (I won't be spending more than $600)

 

Thing is, there's a very palpable sense among the tech community that there will be new cards coming out soon.  And since I'm running a 2GB GTX 760 right now, I can afford to wait and see what might become available and gather info.

 

Right. Whereas I'm running the old 8800GTX. It was good enough to handle the best of what the 360 generation had to offer at weaker resolutions and max/near max settings. I got 8 years out of that card. It handled 1080 just fine, as long as I killed a lot of other graphic intensive effects (esp. particles, v-sync, and AAA). 

 

If a 980 will be powerful enough to handle most of what this generation has to offer - comparable to the GTX at launch - then it'll last me the full three years. It was just never worth it for me to upgrade it, because the boost in performance was never justified since most games were console ports. As for the PC-first graphics heavy games - like TW2  - if I liked them enough to buy them I liked them enough to replay them, so I could just enjoy the visuals when I really upgraded next. 

[Brogan]

Right. Whereas I'm running the old 8800GTX. It was good enough to handle the best of what the 360 generation had to offer at weaker resolutions and max/near max settings. I got 8 years out of that card. It handled 1080 just fine, as long as I killed a lot of other graphic intensive effects (esp. particles, v-sync, and AAA). 

 

If a 980 will be powerful enough to handle most of what this generation has to offer - comparable to the GTX at launch - then it'll last me the full three years. It was just never worth it for me to upgrade it, because the boost in performance was never justified since most games were console ports. As for the PC-first graphics heavy games - like TW2  - if I liked them enough to buy them I liked them enough to replay them, so I could just enjoy the visuals when I really upgraded next. 

 

You know you wanna do it. 

[In Exile]

You know you wanna do it. 

 

Yeah. I'm just wondering if I shouldn't do something like get the 970 now and come up with a plan for a second 970 in the future for an SLI set-up as the future proofing s. But I hear running cards in SLI is a pain and can lead to problems, esp. if it isn't supported by the software you're running. Or at least it was when I was looking into it for the 8800GTX.