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[naughty99]

Complete GPU List for BF4
 
Here is a comparison of BF4 performance for most graphics cards currently on the market, including laptop GPUs.
 
How to use it:
Scroll down, find your GPU on the list and it will give you an idea of how well it runs BF4. As BF4 uses the same engine and has very similar recommended specs, performance for Dragon Age: Inquisition should be similar.

This list shows which GPUs can run BF4 from 1280x720 and up: 

Spoiler

If you have very low end GPU, here is another list. These are super low end, not likely to be able to run the game even at 1280x720.

Spoiler

http://www.videocard...range_gpus.html
http://www.videocard...w_end_gpus.html

Gods I wish I was better at all this.
 
After running through everything I know I meet the recommended specs in almost every category.
 
Don't know if my graphics card is though. It's a Nvidia Geforce gtx 745.

 
One way to get an idea of how your card will perform is look up some videos of people playing BF4 with the same graphics card:
 
https://www.youtube....h?v=cFya_xUIgJA
 
https://www.youtube....h?v=08k6ul7nm3Y

[Dark Helmet]

That's workable then. Probably won't be able to have max settings on everything but that's never been an issue for me.

[Mathegs]

Mantle is useful if your CPU is a bottleneck. I have a Phenom II x4 965 BE 3.4 Ghz paired with a Radeon R9 270x 2GB and Mantle has been very useful to me in Frostbite 3 games (BF4 and PvZ: Garden Warfare). Paired with a good CPU, Mantle GPUs offer a small framerate increase, but nothing spectacular.

I finally understand how Mantle works, guess I will not have much need with my I5 4430.

 

All the above having been said, the R9 270X is still a very good GPU on its own so unless you really want to upgrade, it'll see you through for the next couple games without problem and you can wait to see how AMD's Pirate Islands GPUs will compare to Nvidia's Maxwell.

I'll wait a while, if I find a good discount I buy a new card.

 

Thanks for your help.

[Brogan]

Cant find the 980 anywhere right now.

 

Unless you want a Zotac, that is...

[bluebullets]

fyi, i hae a HAF and its like a quiet air conditioner- no noise.

[Caja]

I missed the fun of building a PC earlier but I hope it's not to late for me to join the crowd now . The thing is, I want to buy a "gaming" laptop and yes, I know that most people would probably rather buy a "real" desktop PC instead of a laptop. But I don't have that much space and I was quite happy with my previous laptop. So I'll stick to it. However, I could use your opinions about the components. Is there anything I should change? On the one hand, the laptop should last the next 5 years but on the other hand I can't spend too much money on it. So, here's what I am thinking: 

 

6144 MB Nvidea Geforce GTX 970

Intel Core i7-4710MQ 4x2.5

16 GB RAM

500 GB SATA III Samsung 840 EVO SSD

Blu Ray/DVD-Player

WLAN AC 3160 (802.11b/g/n/ac, Dualband, Bluetooth 4.0)

Win 8.1

 

I was wondering if I should take a Geforce GTX 880 instead. It's about 170 € cheaper. I could raise the money for the newer 970 card - but should I? Another thing, I'm not quite sure about the hard drive. Should I get just one hard drive (500 GB) or two (2x250)? If I'd get two I could use one hard drive just for my games. Also, the WLAN spec doesn't tell me much. For 20 € more I could get WLAN Killer Wireless-N 1202 2x2 Wifi + Bluetooth 4.0 but I don't play many online games. As a matter of fact, Inquisition will probably be my first one.  So I'm not sure if I should invest the 20 bucks here.

 

Help is much appreciated .

 

 

[naughty99]

I missed the fun of building a PC earlier but I hope it's not to late for me to join the crowd now . The thing is, I want to buy a "gaming" laptop and yes, I know that most people would probably rather buy a "real" desktop PC instead of a laptop. But I don't have that much space and I was quite happy with my previous laptop. So I'll stick to it. However, I could use your opinions about the components. Is there anything I should change? On the one hand, the laptop should last the next 5 years but on the other hand I can't spend too much money on it. So, here's what I am thinking: 

 

6144 MB Nvidea Geforce GTX 970

Intel Core i7-4710MQ 4x2.5

16 GB RAM

500 GB SATA III Samsung 840 EVO SSD

Blu Ray/DVD-Player

WLAN AC 3160 (802.11b/g/n/ac, Dualband, Bluetooth 4.0)

Win 8.1

 

I was wondering if I should take a Geforce GTX 880 instead. It's about 170 € cheaper. I could raise the money for the newer 970 card - but should I? Another thing, I'm not quite sure about the hard drive. Should I get just one hard drive (500 GB) or two (2x250)? If I'd get two I could use one hard drive just for my games. Also, the WLAN spec doesn't tell me much. For 20 € more I could get WLAN Killer Wireless-N 1202 2x2 Wifi + Bluetooth 4.0 but I don't play many online games. As a matter of fact, Inquisition will probably be my first one.  So I'm not sure if I should invest the 20 bucks here.

 

Help is much appreciated .

I'd stick with 970m instead of the 880m. 970m is faster and runs cooler. 970m can get over 60fps max settings in BF4, but there are now a few other laptops on the market with 980m, which is an amazing mobile card, quite future-proof.

 

What's your total budget for the laptop and does it matter whether it's thin and portable vs bulky size?

 

As for SSD, you don't really need dual SSDs in Raid0 for gaming - this is more helpful for video editing or adobe apps. 

[Caja]

Thanks . My budget is approximately 1600 - 1700 Euro (2000 - 2100 US Dollar). It doesn't matter whether it's a thin or a bulky laptop. I carry it only occasionally around with me. So it's merely a question of aesthetics. But I would appreciate a quite laptop. I've read before in this thread that the 970 doesn't make so much noise, so I suppose I should really stick with it .   

[naughty99]

Thanks . My budget is approximately 1600 - 1700 Euro (2000 - 2100 US Dollar). It doesn't matter whether it's a thin or a bulky laptop. I carry it only occasionally around with me. So it's merely a question of aesthetics. But I would appreciate a quite laptop. I've read before in this thread that the 970 doesn't make so much noise, so I suppose I should really stick with it .

Regarding the noise, running demanding games on any laptop is going to be loud and it will generate heat. There is not really any way to avoid this, other than to use headphones while gaming. Whether it's 970m or 980m, they are quiet when they are not working hard, and loud when they are working hardest with higher temps. A laptop cooler is also advisable for running demanding applications.
 
How about Gigabyte P35x v3 (starting from $2,023) http://www.xoticpc.c...der-p-7620.html This model also has some sort of fan customization settings so you can make the fans run quieter if you choose: http://www.gigabyte....es/FanTweak.jpg

• i7-4710HQ
• GTX 980m 8GB VRAM
• 1080p IPS display
• 128GB SSD
• 1TB 7200RPM HDD
• 8GB DDR3 1600MHz
• 20.3mm/0.8in thick
• 2.2kg

Mythlogic Dia 1614 (Clevo P650Sx - in Europe you can buy Clevos under Schenk or Defiance reseller brands) similar specs, slightly larger size and a little cheaper than P35x: https://www.mythlogi...gure.php?id=166

SagerNP8258(Clevo P157SM-A) - much larger, bulky size, but only $1700 with 980m or $1,376 with 970m: http://www.xoticpc.c...?wconfigure=yes


A few recent gaming laptops with 980m and 970m: https://docs.google....MHjQ/edit#gid=0

[Caja]

Great, thank you, very helpful. I'll look into it!

[SilentCid]

Complete GPU List for BF4
 
Here is a comparison of BF4 performance for most graphics cards currently on the market, including laptop GPUs.
 
How to use it:
Scroll down, find your GPU on the list and it will give you an idea of how well it runs BF4. As BF4 uses the same engine and has very similar recommended specs, performance for Dragon Age: Inquisition should be similar.

This list shows which GPUs can run BF4 from 1280x720 and up: 

Spoiler

If you have very low end GPU, here is another list. These are super low end, not likely to be able to run the game even at 1280x720.

Spoiler

http://www.videocard...range_gpus.html
http://www.videocard...w_end_gpus.html

 
One way to get an idea of how your card will perform is look up some videos of people playing BF4 with the same graphics card:
 
https://www.youtube....h?v=cFya_xUIgJA
 
https://www.youtube....h?v=08k6ul7nm3Y

 

 

Some of these cards on your list can run the game at 1920x1080 on medium quality preset with medium AA Post. Like the R7 260 for example that's been placed in the 60 FPS @ 1920 x 1080 no AA section low settings. I think you should take a look at this list again. Perhaps compile only what other people's hardware that been shown on the forums and work from there. Maybe a spreadsheet that would give a more in scope data than using a list of benchmarks from passmark.

[Anny78]

Hi everyone!

 

I'm an IT noob, so pls tell me: will DA:I run on Windows 7 32-bit?

 

(Intel Core i5 CPU 750 @ 2,67 GHz, 4 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560, g.m. 1024 MB, 140 GB free on HD, DirectX 11)

[skjutengris]

Hi everyone!

 

I'm an IT noob, so pls tell me: will DA:I run on Windows 7 32-bit?

 

(Intel Core i5 CPU 750 @ 2,67 GHz, 4 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560, g.m. 1024 MB, 140 GB free on HD, DirectX 11)

 

no you need 64 bit OS.

its likely you can use your OS key for 32 bit and download a 64bit version and use your key for that.

or your pc come with both versions if you have a dvd disc.

but other than that you should be good to go.

[naughty99]

Some of these cards on your list can run the game at 1920x1080 on medium quality preset with medium AA Post. Like the R7 260 for example that's been placed in the 60 FPS @ 1920 x 1080 no AA section low settings. I think you should take a look at this list again. Perhaps compile only what other people's hardware that been shown on the forums and work from there. Maybe a spreadsheet that would give a more in scope data than using a list of benchmarks from passmark.

Post AA is just FXAA, which doesn't affect frame rate much at all. Performance-wise, it's almost the same as playing with 0xMSAA. "Deferred AA" (MSAA) is the setting that really slows down frame rate, along with display resolution. These captions included on this list are only from published BF4 benchmarks, not Passmark.

As for the R7 260X, here are the BF4 benchmarks bit-tech arrived at after testing your card, maybe your results were different?

• 1920x1080 ultra preset, 0xMSAA fps 22 min, 27 avg
• 1920x1080 high preset, 0xMSAA fps 35 min, 43 avg
• 1920x1080 med preset, 0xMSAA fps 54 min, 62 avg
• 1920x1080 low preset, 0xMSAA fps 66 min, 74 avg

Unfortunately, there is not any list of how every single graphics card SKU will perform in BF4 on every imaginable setting, so when you scroll up and down the list there are going to be some cards that might perform slightly better or worse than cards above or below them.

 

However, it's pretty convenient for us hopeful DA:I fans that the following settings have already been benchmarked on BF4 across a wide range of GPUs, corresponding to the captions on this GPU list:

• 1920x1080 60fps max settings, 4xMSAA
• 2560x1600 30fps max settings, 4xMSAA
• 1920x1080 60fps max settings, no AA
• 2560x1600 30fps max settings, no AA
• 1920x1080 30fps max settings, 4xMSAA
• 1920x1080 30fps max settings, no AA
• 1920x1080 60fps low settings, no AA
• 1920x1080 30fps med settings, no AA
• 1280x720 30fps lowest settings, no AA

If you can suggest other settings profiles that have been benchmarked on BF4 across a variety of GPUs, it would be great to add them to the list.

[Anny78]

no you need 64 bit OS.

its likely you can use your OS key for 32 bit and download a 64bit version and use your key for that.

or your pc come with both versions if you have a dvd disc.

but other than that you should be good to go.

Thank you very much for your response!

 

But as I said I'm a noob, so have no idea where to look for the 64-bit OS version.    I don't have a custom built computer, but a Hewlett-Packard Elite 7000 MT with pre-installed Windows 7 Home Premium. (And yes, I have a DVD+RW, pre-ordered a physical copy of DA:I months ago and I'd really hate to cancel it just because I can't afford a new PC right now. ) Please help! *desperately trying to google some info*

[aphelion4]

Christ, I can play on max settings with my 5 year old GPU? Wasn't expecting that. I'm a little worried tho about how the game will actually look now. Will textures actually be high res (2048x2048 or 4096x4096) or just 1024x1024, or even a pitiful 512x512? (lol).

[skjutengris]

Thank you very much for your response!

 

But as I said I'm a noob, so have no idea where to look for the 64-bit OS version.    I don't have a custom built computer, but a Hewlett-Packard Elite 7000 MT with pre-installed Windows 7 Home Premium. (And yes, I have a DVD+RW, pre-ordered a physical copy of DA:I months ago and I'd really hate to cancel it just because I can't afford a new PC right now. ) Please help! *desperately trying to google some info*

If your key is fine for a 64bit version one can download the ISO from Microsoft themselves or likely HP.
Burn it to a dvd or as today, create a usb key and upload to the usb.
but since your on a HP machine it can mean the key is tied to the HP and is OEM and such then an update to a 64bit wont work, which then maybe HP themselves can help you with to replace current OS for you. Not entierly sure of how HP deals with their OS and machines.

You HP should have a callcenter to ask for help right?

 

Also if this works you need to back up all files you deem important before you do a replacement.
Normally the key for a 32bit is aka win 7 also works for the same edition 64bit.
so if you have 32 home edition then it would work for a 64bit home edition.

 

[Caja]

I would call HP's customer support too .

[Fidite Nemini]

Christ, I can play on max settings with my 5 year old GPU? Wasn't expecting that. I'm a little worried tho about how the game will actually look now. Will textures actually be high res (2048x2048 or 4096x4096) or just 1024x1024, or even a pitiful 512x512? (lol).

 

 

Frostbite 3 is a very scalable engine. It can run on low end machines and still look good, or run on high end machines and look nearly photorealistic.

 

And what is your GPU? Recommended specs can mean a lot of things and max settings with stable 60 fps across the board may not one of those things.

[Anny78]

Well thanks again, all I found on-line is that I can't upgrade my OS without completely re-installing all my programs etc. (360 GB of random stuff )... am just unable to do this atm.

I can't call customer support, they don't have one where I'm from (I don't even speak English), nvm.

 

I'll have to wait a few years for a new PC it seems...

[SilentCid]

Post AA is just FXAA, which doesn't affect frame rate much at all, almost the same as playing with 0xMSAA. "Deferred AA" (MSAA) is what slows down frame rate. These captions included on this list are only from BF4 benchmarks, not Passmark.

As for your R7 260, here are the BF4 benchmarks bit-tech arrived at after testing this card:

• 1920x1080 ultra preset, 0xMSAA fps 22 min, 27 avg
• 1920x1080 high preset, 0xMSAA fps 35 min, 43 avg
• 1920x1080 med preset, 0xMSAA fps 54 min, 62 avg
• 1920x1080 low preset, 0xMSAA fps 66 min, 74 avg

Unfortunately, there is not any list of how every single graphics card SKU will perform in BF4 on every imaginable setting. However, it is convenient that the following settings have been benchmarked on BF4 across a wide range of GPUs:

• 1920x1080 60fps max settings, 4xMSAA
• 2560x1600 30fps max settings, 4xMSAA
• 1920x1080 60fps max settings, no AA
• 2560x1600 30fps max settings, no AA
• 1920x1080 30fps max settings, 4xMSAA
• 1920x1080 30fps max settings, no AA
• 1920x1080 60fps low settings, no AA
• 1920x1080 30fps med settings, no AA
• 1280x720 30fps med settings, no AA

If you can suggest other settings profiles that have been benchmarked on BF4 across a variety of GPUs, we can certainly add them here.

 

Ok I give you the FXAA part and some of the bit-tech testing on the card stuff.  Clearly though this list is still not accurate. Take a look below:

 

Spoiler

 

 

Now take a look at these results:

Spoiler

http://media.bestofm...inal/BF4-FR.png

 

From Bit-Tech and Tom's Hardware, this card should be in a category medium 1080p at 60FPS - no AA which of course is not a category on your list.  Now I'm not saying you have to put every card imaginable on your list. What I am saying is this, compiling a list of what other posters' specs that was posted on "The Big Can I Run It" thread.  It will be more focused in scope compared to how broad the this list that's posted is.

 

I took some specs on what was posted on the can I run it thread. Taking what people's response were for the best possible settings on any graphics card that was in question, and what I've seen from other user's benchmark videos. Note just something I threw up.

 

Spoiler

http://puu.sh/cnN25/270ada921e.png

 

All you have to do with something like this is to add in what you saw recently on the other threads onto the spreadsheet. That way you're not seeing this like Quadro K5000M or FirePro M6100 Fire GL V on the list which isn't typically going to see someone having.

[SilentCid]

Post AA is just FXAA, which doesn't affect frame rate much at all, almost the same as playing with 0xMSAA. "Deferred AA" (MSAA) is what slows down frame rate. These captions included on this list are only from BF4 benchmarks, not Passmark.

As for your R7 260, here are the BF4 benchmarks bit-tech arrived at after testing this card:

• 1920x1080 ultra preset, 0xMSAA fps 22 min, 27 avg
• 1920x1080 high preset, 0xMSAA fps 35 min, 43 avg
• 1920x1080 med preset, 0xMSAA fps 54 min, 62 avg
• 1920x1080 low preset, 0xMSAA fps 66 min, 74 avg

Unfortunately, there is not any list of how every single graphics card SKU will perform in BF4 on every imaginable setting. However, it is convenient that the following settings have been benchmarked on BF4 across a wide range of GPUs:

• 1920x1080 60fps max settings, 4xMSAA
• 2560x1600 30fps max settings, 4xMSAA
• 1920x1080 60fps max settings, no AA
• 2560x1600 30fps max settings, no AA
• 1920x1080 30fps max settings, 4xMSAA
• 1920x1080 30fps max settings, no AA
• 1920x1080 60fps low settings, no AA
• 1920x1080 30fps med settings, no AA
• 1280x720 30fps med settings, no AA

If you can suggest other settings profiles that have been benchmarked on BF4 across a variety of GPUs, we can certainly add them here.

 

Ok I give you the FXAA part and some of the bit-tech testing on the card stuff.  Clearly though this list is still not accurate. Take a look below:

 

Spoiler

 

 

Now take a look at these results:

Spoiler

 

From Bit-Tech and Tom's Hardware, this card should be in a category medium 1080p at 60FPS - no AA which of course is not a category on your list.  Now I'm not saying you have to put every card imaginable on your list. What I am saying is this, compiling a list of what other posters' specs that was posted on "The Big Can I Run It" thread.  It will be more focused in scope compared to how broad the this list that's posted is.

 

I took some specs on what was posted on the can I run it thread. Taking what people's response were for the best possible settings on any graphics card that was in question, and what I've seen from other user's benchmark videos. Note just something I threw up.

 

Spoiler

 

All you have to do with something like this is to add in what you saw recently on the other threads onto the spreadsheet. That way you're not seeing this like Quadro K5000M or FirePro M6100 Fire GL V on the list which isn't typically going to see someone having.

[skjutengris]

Well thanks again, all I found on-line is that I can't upgrade my OS without completely re-installing all my programs etc. (360 GB of random stuff )... am just unable to do this atm.

I can't call customer support, they don't have one where I'm from (I don't even speak English), nvm.

 

I'll have to wait a few years for a new PC it seems...

 

well one way to solve it is to buy an extra hard drive, install 64bit os on that one.

you can then use the old disk as back up

some skills are needed in regards to set that up though.

[Rychen]

Well Assassin Creed system requirements came out... a r9 290X for recommended. Yah, I think a whole lot of PC gamers who may have bought that now have a lot more money for DA:I 

[finc.loki]

I might try and do the nVidia DSR for this game. I have 2 780GTX in SLI so it would be cool to see if I can run the game in 4K and then via DSR downscale it to my 1440p Resolution. Might be pretty damned nice with DSR being better than AA, as instead of AA. Should make it crisp.

 

Might be too much to handle but I think I'll try.