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[Brogan]

from what i´ve heard the G1 is much louder than the Strix, or the MSI...

 

I pushed my g1 to max on some benchmarks last night up to 90% fan usage and I barely heard it with no other sounds in the room.

[kinderschlager]

wonder why the AMD min specs are higher than intel for CPU's.

[Deathangel008]

wonder why the AMD min specs are higher than intel for CPU's.

because Intel´s CPUs have a higher IPC than AMD CPUs.

 

I pushed my g1 to max on some benchmarks last night up to 90% fan usage and I barely heard it with no other sounds in the room.

dont know, i´ve just read it in a review. tbh i dont really care, i´m happy with my MSI 970^^

[dch2404]

wonder why the AMD min specs are higher than intel for CPU's.

 

GHz is pretty useless as a measure of processor power these days. The top processor is a Xeon with only 2.3 GHz and gets 25000 Passmark points whereas a 4 GHz i7-4790 gets only 11000 points. Your thinking is over a decade out of date

Instructions per second or cycle (IPS/IPC) is important for CPUs and Floating Operatons Per Second (FLOPS) is important for GPUs.

[Deathangel008]

GHz is pretty useless as a measure of processor power these days. The top processor is a Xeon with only 2.3 GHz and gets 25000 Passmark points whereas a 4 GHz i7-4790 gets only 11000 points. Your thinking is over a decade out of date

yeah, great example. comparing a CPU with 18cores/36 threads which costs several 1000$ with another one with 4C/8T which costs about 300$
(i´ve also heard that a Koenigsegg Agera R is faster than a Ford Focus, what a surprise.)

[kinderschlager]

GHz is pretty useless as a measure of processor power these days. The top processor is a Xeon with only 2.3 GHz and gets 25000 Passmark points whereas a 4 GHz i7-4790 gets only 11000 points. Your thinking is over a decade out of date

Instructions per second or cycle (IPS/IPC) is important for CPUs and Floating Operatons Per Second (FLOPS) is important for GPUs.

none of that made any sense to me

[The Night Haunter]

none of that made any sense to me

Instructions per second is how many commands a CPU is able to process per second. This is essentially what a CPU is all about. The more Instructions processed the faster everything runs. GHz is clock speed and is directly related to IPS. The above poster is comparing a 2.5k$ card with a 300$ card to fidget his point in. If you look at the IPS in the link dch2404 gave you'll see that the 4790k is actually one of the best price per IPS you can get. The problem with higher end cards/CPUs is they increase in price at a non-linear rate, so you pay more for every bit of efficiency than the last bit.

[Deathangel008]

The above poster is comparing a 2.5k$ card with a 300$ card to fidget his point in.

more important is the fact, that this Xeon has 36 threads, while the i7 "only" has 8, and this benchmark obviously benefits from more threads. in a benchmark/programm which can use "only" 8 threads or less (like 99,9% of all videogames), the i7 would rape the Xeon.

[skjutengris]

Instructions per second is how many commands a CPU is able to process per second. This is essentially what a CPU is all about. The more Instructions processed the faster everything runs. GHz is clock speed and is directly related to IPS. The above poster is comparing a 2.5k$ card with a 300$ card to fidget his point in. If you look at the IPS in the link dch2404 gave you'll see that the 4790k is actually one of the best price per IPS you can get. The problem with higher end cards/CPUs is they increase in price at a non-linear rate, so you pay more for every bit of efficiency than the last bit.

 

my 4670k still are great, why pay 3 times as much for no real benefit?

sold the old system paid really little for the 4670k and had it for 2 years now.

I dont expect to change it anytime soon.

[The Night Haunter]

my 4670k still are great, why pay 3 times as much for no real benefit?

sold the old system paid really little for the 4670k and had it for 2 years now.

I dont expect to change it anytime soon.

Exactly, price per benefit decreases rapidly the higher you go. The difference between a $800 and $1500 is much smaller than the difference between a $400 and $800, and the difference between a $1500 system and a $3000 are practically negligible in terms of video games, you'll only see differences for video/sound editing and coding (if you are making some memory intensive application). If you just go with a mid-range spec that has been out for a while you get it for very cheap and it will be only a bit worse than higher end specs. Plus you have the benefit (in the case of GPUs) of better tested drivers.

[Elevon]

my 4670k still are great, why pay 3 times as much for no real benefit?

sold the old system paid really little for the 4670k and had it for 2 years now.

I dont expect to change it anytime soon.

 

My i5 2500k  still going strong,probably one of the best overclocking CPUs from Intel,amazing when you think how long and how well it still holds up even today.

[Owligatorr]

Hey yo I am not good at all with technology and I am just wondering if there is any chance at all of my computer being able to run inquisition !! 

 

Intel® Core™ i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz

Intel® HD Graphics 4000/AMD Radeon HD 7730M I have two video cards installed this is a strange computer

6.1 gigs of useable RAM 

Microsoft Windows 8 (build 9200), 64-bit

 

Tell me if i need to give more info omg I am not wise.. 

[Deathangel008]

Intel® Core™ i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz

Intel® HD Graphics 4000/AMD Radeon HD 7730M I have two video cards installed this is a strange computer

6.1 gigs of useable RAM 

Microsoft Windows 8 (build 9200), 64-bit

no it isnt. the Intel HD4000 is an iGPU, the HD7730 is a dedicated GPU, nothing uncommon.
game should run, but only on low/medium settings, depending on the resolution.

[Owligatorr]

no it isnt. the Intel HD4000 is an iGPU, the HD7730 is a dedicated GPU, nothing uncommon.
game should run, but only on low/medium settings, depending on the resolution.

ok good to know!! Thank you so much for your help ;w;

[EnergizerBunny211]

I know I'm over and above the Recommended Specs...but in the back of my mind there's this lingering, nagging doubt that I'll be able to fully enjoy Inquisition maxed-out (with all settings on at least HIGH, if not Ultra).  I'd love to upgrade my motherboard especially (getting rid of this p o s from ASUS, the over priced piece of Junk that is the Maximus Hero 6)...but I'm stuck with it till who-know-how-long.

 

My rig as it stands now consists of the following parts:

 

Intel 4770 @ 3.4 Ghz (standard version with a modified Corsair H60 Liq. Cooler sporting dual fans)

MOtherboard: Maximus Hero 6

GPU: 4 GB EVGA 760 Dual FTW

RAM: 32 GB DDR3; G Skill RipJawsX 1600s

SSD: 500 GB Samsung EVO 840

PSU: Corsair HX750  80+GOLD

Case: CoolerMaster HAF X Full Tower

Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster P2770; 1920x1080 @ 1ms

 

I'm sure I'll be perfectly fine....but....my fears won't be put to rest until I get the game in my hands and see things for myself....that's just he pessimist in me

[Deathangel008]

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whats wrong with your MB?
btw i´m pretty sure that you cant get ultra details @ FHD @60fps with a 760.

[kipac]

Has anyone bought a used gpu before?

I want to upgrade mine to R9 280x but it's kind of expensive to buy a new one. I'm seeing pretty good price at eBay, but I've always refrained myself from buying a used electronic component/device so far due to fear of getting a broken one.

[EnergizerBunny211]

whats wrong with your MB?
btw i´m pretty sure that you cant get ultra details @ FHD @60fps with a 760.

thanks for your reply.  But, " 'what's wrong with your motherboard you ask?' "   Well, it's from ASUS- that's what's wrong with it.  ASUS is not the Quality company they were in the 1990s.  I've had to RMA my motherboard twice in the past 5 months because of defective RAM slots, and ever other ASUS product I've had in the past 3 years has been RMA'd several times, including a 570 GPU (RMA'd 4 times in 18 months) a 670 (RMA'd twice in one year, and then finally replaced with a 680 because they could no longer supply the 670) and two ASUS Z77 motheroards have been replaced within two years because of capacitors that had popped and leaked causing short-circuits out all over the rest of the board.   And let's not even mention the 700-dollar-complete piece of Junk called the Transformer TFT 100 that was their Tablet.  That has been sent back 3 times for battery issues....and the last time it came back from ASUS with a cracked screen, which they promptly told me that it would cost 350 dollars to replace- and it's 3 years old at this point.  Heck, for 350 I can buy a newer and much better tablet- why waste money on referbishing an obvious piece of junk?  It was their fault that the screen was cracked and they're going to charge me to replace it???   More over,....don't even get me started on their complete lack of Customer Non-Service.....

 

So as far as I'm concerned, when my Maximus 6 board even starts to show any sign of trouble I'm pitching it in the garbage where it belongs and I will never ever buy another product from  them.

 

Sorry for rambling...but ASUS is on my 4-letter-word list....  But again I do thank you for your response and for your honest question

 

My apologies for any offense I have caused, I do not mean my tone to be harsh.

[unclee]

thanks for your reply.  But, " 'what's wrong with your motherboard you ask?' "   Well, it's from ASUS- that's what's wrong with it.  ASUS is not the Quality company they were in the 1990s.  I've had to RMA my motherboard twice in the past 5 months because of defective RAM slots, and ever other ASUS product I've had in the past 3 years has been RMA'd several times, including a 570 GPU (RMA'd 4 times in 18 months) a 670 (RMA'd twice in one year, and then finally replaced with a 680 because they could no longer supply the 670) and two ASUS Z77 motheroards have been replaced within two years because of capacitors that had popped and leaked causing short-circuits out all over the rest of the board.   And let's not even mention the 700-dollar-complete piece of Junk called the Transformer TFT 100 that was their Tablet.  That has been sent back 3 times for battery issues....and the last time it came back from ASUS with a cracked screen, which they promptly told me that it would cost 350 dollars to replace- and it's 3 years old at this point.  Heck, for 350 I can buy a newer and much better tablet- why waste money on referbishing an obvious piece of junk?  It was their fault that the screen was cracked and they're going to charge me to replace it???   More over,....don't even get me started on their complete lack of Customer Non-Service.....

 

So as far as I'm concerned, when my Maximus 6 board even starts to show any sign of trouble I'm pitching it in the garbage where it belongs and I will never ever buy another product from  them.

 

Sorry for rambling...but ASUS is on my 4-letter-word list....  But again I do thank you for your response and for your honest question

 

My apologies for any offense I have caused, I do not mean my tone to be harsh.

 

*Is rocking an Asus motherboard, BD Burner, Monitor and Chromebox for XBMC*

 

I've never had a problem with Asus so sorry to hear you've had bad experiences.

[Timate]

I only ever go with Asus I never had any issues with them either however I have had different GPU either HD or I do nivdia so far I am running my game better then some however it may be many of the users own fault or it is the system I like my room very cold the heat will wear out a system faster yeah sure you have fans but having a nice cold room will keep the system running a little bit better. Got to take care of your electronics like its your own child.

[EnergizerBunny211]

I only ever go with Asus I never had any issues with them either however I have had different GPU either HD or I do nivdia so far I am running my game better then some however it may be many of the users own fault or it is the system I like my room very cold the heat will wear out a system faster yeah sure you have fans but having a nice cold room will keep the system running a little bit better. Got to take care of your electronics like its your own child.

Because there's no or little insulation in the 2 outside walls that form part of my room, my room is a pressure-cooker in the summer and a meat locker in the winter.  Even with the furnace on within the rest of the house, in the winter when the exterior temps reach -10 to minus -20...the interior temps of my room are not far off those.  Consequentially, in the winter when I boot up my PC in the AM, the CPU temperature is  as low as 4 degrees Celsius and the GPU temp is maybe 10.  And even under load, my CPU and GPU never go higher than 35 to 40 degrees Celsius.  Then when I exit the game....they start cooling down immediately and are back at idling temps of 17 to 25 degrees (respectively) within 5 seconds.  So, yeah I agree with you that having a decently cool room with good ventilation/insulation helps.

 

As for the aforementioned products....I'm sure there are those people who never have had any problems with any products from ASUS or any other company to be fair.  But for me, ASUS has been nothing BUT problems...hence by adamant desire to off-load my motherboard asap.

 

Thank you for your reply.  Hope you enjoying your gaming experience with Inquisition when it comes out...no matter what your hardware is.  Inquisition is one game that just should no be missed....

[EnergizerBunny211]

whats wrong with your MB?
btw i´m pretty sure that you cant get ultra details @ FHD @60fps with a 760.

did you mean to say 'can't ' or 'can' ?  I'm curious....if you don't think I'd be able to run 60FPS @ 1080p with a 4Gb 760, why not?   OR if you meant to say can and it was simply a typo then I apologize.

 

Best Regards

[Deathangel008]

did you mean to say 'can't ' or 'can' ?  I'm curious....if you don't think I'd be able to run 60FPS @ 1080p with a 4Gb 760, why not?   OR if you meant to say can and it was simply a typo then I apologize.

can´t. and why? well, based on my experiences, the official recommended hardware is always too weak for highest settings. good enough for high settings with acceptable fps, but not more. for example, ubisoft recommends a GTX470 for AC:BF, but with my old 660ti, which is ~65% faster than the 470, i usually had less than 55fps on highest settings with only SMAA and deactivated PhysX. or, in BF3 SP (Frostbite2) i didn´t had stable 60fps on ultra settings with the 660ti, and i assume that DA:I will need more powerful hardware than BF3, thats why i think that your 760 isnt powerful enough for highest settings at stable 60fps.
btw 2 or 4 GB VRAM shouldnt make a big difference on a 760.
btw²: i hadn´t had any problems with Asus so far^^

[theacefes]

 i assume that DA:I will need more powerful hardware than BF3, thats why i think that your 760 isnt powerful enough for highest settings at stable 60fps.

 

DA uses FB3 not 2. Seems like you're comparing two completely different things and making your conclusions based on that.

 

From BF4 website for rec specs:

OS
WINDOWS 8 64-BIT
PROCESSOR
AMD SIX-CORE CPU
INTEL QUAD-CORE CPU
MEMORY
8 GB
GRAPHICS CARD
AMD RADEON HD 7870
NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 660
GRAPHICS MEMORY
3 GB
HARD DRIVE
30 GB

 

DA has had more time to be optimized so I would think anything that ran well on BF4 would run better on DA:I. Or is that wrong?

[Fidite Nemini]

DA uses FB3 not 2. Seems like you're comparing two completely different things and making your conclusions based on that.

 

From BF4 website for rec specs:

OS
WINDOWS 8 64-BIT
PROCESSOR
AMD SIX-CORE CPU
INTEL QUAD-CORE CPU
MEMORY
8 GB
GRAPHICS CARD
AMD RADEON HD 7870
NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 660
GRAPHICS MEMORY
3 GB
HARD DRIVE
30 GB

 

DA has had more time to be optimized so I would think anything that ran well on BF4 would run better on DA:I. Or is that wrong?

 

But you won't run Bf4 maximum graphics at 1080p with stable 60 fps with a GTX 660.

 

 

I would know, because I used to run Bf4 with my GTX 660 Ti on high settings (not ultra) and decreased AA to give me a halfway stable 50-60 fps range and that would still dip at times when lots of particle effects where onscreen. Am now running on the "competitive setting" (mostly medium settings with ultra meshes) and finally got to the point that I won't dip below 60 fps except for really obscenely action heavy sequences.