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#51
BellPeppers&Beef023

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So necromancer gets haste...lolwut?



#52
Yggdrasil

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Someone on another thread deduced that the Focus power for the Necromancer specialization is Haste.  Knight Enchanters have the healing one, and Rift Mages apparently have some kind of fireball ability, leaving Haste for us dead'uns.



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Someone on another thread deduced that the Focus power for the Necromancer specialization is Haste.  Knight Enchanters have the healing one, and Rift Mages apparently have some kind of fireball ability, leaving Haste for us dead'uns.

So speculation pretty much? 



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Why would a rift mage have a fireball? If anything I thought that specialization would have haste,



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Why would a rift mage have a fireball? If anything I thought that specialization would have haste,

 

Maybe he's summoning those fireballs out of the fade?



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pengwin21

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Maybe it'll be flavored more as an entropic "slow everybody else" which may fit with the animation better.



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It makes sense. Creation was merged with Spirit. Necromancers are roughly spirit users from previous games. I originally thought that haste will be a spirit tree ability. Since it's not, necromancer is pretty much the only other option.



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Why would a rift mage have a fireball? If anything I thought that specialization would have haste,

I am in agreement haste would fit rift mage more. 



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Maybe it'll be flavored more as an entropic "slow everybody else" which may fit with the animation better.

 

That is what I was thinking off. Wasn't there a "slow" spell mentioned at some point a few months ago?



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Too bad entropy and creation didn't get the same treatment.

Those schools were never mentioned in the initial description. Even then according to WOT and from what we've seen in novels, elemental magic is the most common form of magical expression in dragon age.

Even in the masked empire, a elven mage notes that most human magi use flame and lightning magic (he himself used fire, lightning ice, stone and mana clash spells) said that crushing prison is esoteric magic, and the hexes another apostate uses is a form of creation magic ( where you and i would classify it as entropy).
Also spirit magic can be used to heal.
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I wonder if haste could be a sort of miasmic aura, weakening and slowing enemies.
that would fit with an entropic theme of magic.

Then again, necromancers seem to be spirit magic users with some entropy thrown in.
Spirit binding sounds so cool.
And the whole learning from a skull invokes memories of Zayl the necromancer in Diablo, and his skull Humbert/Humbart.

soooo cool.

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I think they already demonstrated the haste ability in the first dragon fight demo from e3. It just slows everything down except for the character you are controlling. 



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I think they already demonstrated the haste ability in the first dragon fight demo from e3. It just slows everything down except for the character you are controlling. 

True, although I think the whole party remains at normal speed and the rest of the world slows down - I love this change actually, the perception of the passage of time is now from the players perspective rather than the targets.

 

I am actually a hard time convincing myself to remain true to my 2Handed Champ plan for PT1. 



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I'm still contemplating rift mage or necromancer. What would really sell it for me thoguh, is if we could turn our recently deceased enemies against them. 

 

This would make tactics interesting. eg: normally, the most safe way of attacking is first taking out the spam of archers and mooks, and then taking on the boss. However, if you could revive the boss, and not, say, a mook, this might be turned around. If you attack and kill the boss first, to have HIM on your side, the remaining mook cleanup might go easier ;)


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I can imagine people being shocked that you are a necromancer and you mess around with spirits. I do hope we learn more about the Mortalitasi, they don't seem like mwhahahaha evil but they revere the dead in some form. I imagine their culture might be similar to necromancers/witch doctors in diablo when it comes to how they approach the dead and what they think of them. 

 

Of course normal people won't think that when they see you they make even think you are a blood mage. 


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Knight Enchanter looks great - but the lore for the Mortillasi Skull has me absolutely entranced. 

 

Bioware - please give some info about this Specialization.  I must know the awesome powers I might wield!



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I just hope the CC and crafting let me make a Trevelyan necromancer that looks like this guy:

 

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I'm still contemplating rift mage or necromancer. What would really sell it for me thoguh, is if we could turn our recently deceased enemies against them. 

 

This would make tactics interesting. eg: normally, the most safe way of attacking is first taking out the spam of archers and mooks, and then taking on the boss. However, if you could revive the boss, and not, say, a mook, this might be turned around. If you attack and kill the boss first, to have HIM on your side, the remaining mook cleanup might go easier ;)

 

You have no idea how much I would love this.  Think of all of the spells and abilities that you would gain access to that the player wouldn't normally have.



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I like the mortalitasi a lot. They come across like a proper witch coven to me, and that's something we don't really have in DA lore. I doubt the game will go this far, but are there rules or expectations I have to adhere to as a mortalitasi necromancer? Will my dead mentor deny me their secrets, flee their relic, and send me bad juju if I spurn them? And I wonder at what kind of magic they may know or do that other mages in Thedas wouldn't try. They can bind souls to skulls, but could they passenger a soul into another's body? Could my inquisitor summon power from an ancient burial ground, or from a battlefield littered with dead mages and fight far more effectively in the area? Even if none of that is possible, I'm still going to enjoy this spec.



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I like the mortalitasi a lot. They come across like a proper witch coven to me, and that's something we don't really have in DA lore. I doubt the game will go this far, but are there rules or expectations I have to adhere to as a mortalitasi necromancer? Will my dead mentor deny me their secrets, flee their relic, and send me bad juju if I cross them? And I wonder at what kind of magic they may know or do that other mages in Thedas wouldn't try. They can bind souls to skulls, but could they passenger a soul into another's body? Could my inquisitor summon power from an ancient burial ground, or from a battlefield littered with dead mages and fight far more effectively in the area? Even if none of that is possible, I'm still going to enjoy this spec.

Yeah I suspect that they are not circle trained so who knows how their magic expresses itself I am quite interested in them now as you said they seem like a real coven of sorts. Can't wait to learn their secrets. 



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Yeah I suspect that they are not circle trained so who knows how their magic expresses itself I am quite interested in them now as you said they seem like a real coven of sorts. Can't wait to learn their secrets. 

I now headcanon that my inquisitor carries her skull-bound mentor everywhere with her, talks to it in camp totally creeping out her companions, consults it before an audience whilst sitting on her throne in Skyhold. And I must construct for it a reliquary fit for a saint. I wouldn't use it, because as I said, I'm going to pack that skull all over the continent, but to demonstrate my reverence its a must. I may be getting a bit carried away...



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Necromancy! Too bad that we can't be liches...

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I now headcanon that my inquisitor carries her skull-bound mentor everywhere with her, talks to it in camp totally creeping out her companions, consults it before an audience whilst sitting on her throne in Skyhold. And I must construct for it a reliquary fit for a saint. I wouldn't use it, because as I said, I'm going to pack that skull all over the continent, but to demonstrate my reverence its a must. I may be getting a bit carried away...

Who knows Mortalitasi might actually be doing that I think the necromancer character in multiplayer might be one of the Mortalitasi considering that the reaver is the from the dragon cult that we encounter in DAO. Another reason why I think that might be the case is because going by her picture she has a "relationship" with the dead within in her picture. 

 

Just like your inquisitor has the learn from the dead Mortalitasi through a skull you have to craft you have to build understanding and learn from the spirits and the dead. Well this is just all speculation on my part.



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Necromancy! Too bad that we can't be liches...

 

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Same here.

 

I would so cast off my puny flesh suit for the cold embrace of lichdom  B)


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The lore has me seriously rethinking my dwarven archer.