1. Uh, the several codex entries where it's mentioned that the system isn't secure because Corypheus is too poweful to be contained?
2. Yeah, Hawke is forced to kill Templars in both Act 1 and 2, but these are typically as a last resort and done out of self-defence rather than being premediated killings. They were already advancing with weapons drawn, it's clear what their intentions were. Explain how you get out of that without killing anyone or being captured?
3. That was when it was just another stuffy party. In Act 1, Hawke's family were invited because it was sent to his mother, still believing the Amells were wealthy. Hawke probably declined because going would have just showed up the fact their family were dirt broke. In Act 2, Hawke's got a lot on their plate with the Qunari (which is why I really don't think MotA "canonically" happens in Act 2 at all) and no time for a party, while in Act 3, it's mentioned offhand that Hawke's invited to several parties a week.
4. But you're forgetting that by Act 3, Meredith's gone from being marginally unstable to being fully onboard the crazy train. And I really think you're underestimating the power that Templars have within Kirkwall. We know that the previous Viscount before Dumar tried to overthrow the Templars and boot them out of the city, but after killing the Knight-Commander, the remaining forces left alive rallied under Meredith, marched on the Viscount's Keep and ended up imprisoning him instead. Whether Meredith is crazy or not, you simply don't move against the Templars in Kirkwall without a lot of people backing your corner and a lot of armed support. Where is Hawke supposed to get this army from? And where does this "stare into the fire for three years" thing come from? Hawke does that once in the entire game, immediately after their mother is brutally murdered? I think being a little shellshocked is pretty justified?
5. Again, Anders has been going on about Mages, Templars and his struggle with Justice for years... everyone's gotten used to it by now. And yes, Hawke should have asked more questions, but it's obvious that Hawke wasn't thinking that whatever he was planning would be something so devastating. Even if you figured out it was a bomb (something Hawke wouldn't know with no knowledge of explosives), making something that can cause that kind of explosion is something that I still don't know how Anders knew how to do? And let's all be honest, without having read any spoilers, did you see that coming the first time you played that quest? Because most people didn't.
6. Answered in my previous post.
I think you're just letting your disdain for Hawke ruin your objectivity. It doesn't make me an apologist to defend the game, since I can admit that at times Hawke isn't that much of a proactive character and could have done a lot of things differently. I just don't see how that ruins them as a character, nor do I see the sense in blaming them for a ton of things outside of their control or knowledge, which any normal person would probably have done in their situation?
I'm sorry, but IMO you're wrong on most of your points and it sounds to me you're trying to justify the writers mess up resulting in Hawke's stupidity.
1. I don't know why people are blaming Hawke for Corypheus release. He can't be blamed for this - nobody explained to him that he can transfer his (mind, soul or whatever) to another body and the prison was already breaking so... Hawke isn't at fault here.
2. That's wrong. Depending on your role-play you can kill templars for fun actually. Also, killing Petrice after she tricked you (almost had you killed) and then flat out told you what her intentions are, isn't in self-defense? You are in a crime infested area, with no guards, well, except Ser Varnell and no witnesses, and you can't kill her? By that time Hawke has done way worse even if you have been playing a morally good charcter. Furthermore, Petrice gets killed right in the center of the Chantry ( a sacred place) right under the nose of the Grand Cleric and Elthina doesn't seem to care. You can't defend this. It's just plain Hawke stupidity resulted from bad writing.
3. But if I remember correctly, Hawke said it's not his thing going to parties and yet you go anyway. (maybe I'm wrong on this one though).
4. By Act III things have gone from bad to worse and in the loading screens it says that Hawke is "The second most important man in Kirkwall). I'm sorry, but during those 3 years he could have done something, anything to fix even a small part of the problem, but as the loading screen says, things have become even worse during those 3 years. What has Hawke been doing all this time? He certainly wasn't resolving any issues there. And as a man of practically unlimited wealth who is loved by the whole city (the Champion) and has very influential friends (Aveline, Varric and Isabela), and yet, he still can't do sh*t. Also, Meredith support was seriously cracking during Act III and the mages were even more willing to move against her, even her soldiers were turning against her.Now either Hawke is a lazy guy who likes to spend his days on whores and doesn't give a crap about Kirkwall or he is just stupid. Pick one.
5. This is just another example of Hawke's stupidity. Anders talks of doing something very big that could bite Hawke in the ass, if it ever comes back to him which certainly should raise some eyebrows, not to mention that, If you ask Anders questions about what he was trying to do, you can see he was becoming very defensive and even pulls up the "friends" card. Also, Anders asks him to distract the Grand Cleric while he does something in the Chantry... Huh? Maybe he went in there to pray for the mages... yeah, right.
6. Look, a war with the Qunari will result in far more deaths than a few hundred. You trying to justify Hawke letting Tallis go is wrong, I dare even say that taking these documents even by force is the moral thing to do considering that it will cripple Qunari's war effort and therefore prevent another war which will result in hundreds of thousands of deaths. And your Hawke can say "F*ck you, give me these documents or I'll kill you" and he lets her go anyway because "he has her nose"... Wtf?
Hawke is either stupid or a lazy noble that just likes to kill people for fun from time to time. There is no middle ground here. I like DA:II - at first I hated it because it's such a downgrade from Origins, but in time I learned to like it. However, Hawke as a protanogist just doesn't work and there is absolutely no way you can justify his actions. He isn't directly responsible for everything that happened, but he could have prevented most things with ease, yet he did not, which makes him kinda evil, I guess.
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