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[Kantr]

I don't really understand what is meant with 'leave the game' to do the keep.

 

It was my impression that as soon as the Keep is released (which will be well ahead of the game's release) we can enter it and create or world state. Depending on when the Keep  is released we can do this a week or more before the game comes out and never have to touch the keep again unless we want to create a new world state or change an existing one. When the game is actually released all we have to do is to import that world state like we would a save import in previous games without 'leaving the game'.

 

Or have I misunderstood? Because if I haven't I don't really see the issue on that point (<-not referring to internet connection issues).

You have it correct.

[JudgeOverdose]

I don't really understand what is meant with 'leave the game' to do the keep.

 

It was my impression that as soon as the Keep is released (which will be well ahead of the game's release) we can enter it and create or world state. Depending on when the Keep  is released we can do this a week or more before the game comes out and never have to touch the keep again unless we want to create a new world state or change an existing one. When the game is actually released all we have to do is to import that world state like we would a save import in previous games without 'leaving the game'.

 

Or have I misunderstood? Because if I haven't I don't really see the issue on that point (<-not referring to internet connection issues).

 

You have not misunderstood; there is no "leaving the game" because you will load a world state at the start of the game, and then it becomes locked.

[Clark]

While I agree that having the keep as a part of the actual game would have been a better user experience, I understand why they went this direction instead. Having the Keep decoupled from the games is going to help manage all the game states going forward from this game to the next game and the next. And there's the added benefit that If they want to tweak the styles or content of the Keep, they only have to tweak the code for the web application, and not patch 5 different platforms. 

[Kali073]

You have it correct.

 

 

You have not misunderstood; there is no "leaving the game" because you will load a world state at the start of the game, and then it becomes locked.

 

Ok, thanks for clearing that up! I was getting a bit confused.

[Thumb Fu]

I don't think downloadable would be easier for anybody. I've been using the keep for a few weeks and there is nothing about it that would make it easier to use if i had to download it all first in order to use it.

 

If you can access and read this site then you can use the keep. It takes less than 20 minutes to set up a keep save as it is right now, that is taking into account the ISS video that plays at the beginning.

 

If i had to download the keep before i was able to use it then it would add time to the process, which is not good. Also i've used to keep on my phone on a very slow 3g connection and it runs just fine, takes a while to load sometimes but that it a fault of the connection not the keep.

 

Also you do not need to leave the game in order to use the keep. Yes the keep is outside of the game but you will be using the keep weeks before the game is even out.

[Lady Nuggins]

I'm not sure I understand the problem.  If you cannot connect to the internet with your console, how would you be able to download a whole program to it, rather than the tiny world state files that we will be downloading instead?  Most people who said that they had internet connection problems were worried about the opposite--that they would have to download this gigantic Keep program onto their consoles, or that they would have to be connected to the internet at all times to receive information from the Keep.  You need to connect your console to the internet only once, to download a very tiny file, and then you never need to worry about connecting the console to internet again.

 

I can think of only one aspect of the Keep that might be a struggle to load on slower connections, and that aspect is entirely optional and does not affect the building of world saves.  

[Amazing Lagann]

any cafe near me doesn't have internet

Then it's not an internet cafe, is it? An internet cafe isn't an actual cafe that serves drinks and sandwiches. It serves the internet. Anyway, if you can complain about it on this website, you'll be fine. 

[Amazing Lagann]

I'm not sure I understand the problem.  If you cannot connect to the internet with your console, how would you be able to download a whole program to it, rather than the tiny world state files that we will be downloading instead?  Most people who said that they had internet connection problems were worried about the opposite--that they would have to download this gigantic Keep program onto their consoles, or that they would have to be connected to the internet at all times to receive information from the Keep.  You need to connect your console to the internet only once, to download a very tiny file, and then you never need to worry about connecting the console to internet again.

 

I can think of only one aspect of the Keep that might be a struggle to load on slower connections, and that aspect is entirely optional and does not affect the building of world saves.  

I think people complaining about not being able to move files or download just want to pirate the game and the keep is a very effective countermeasure. I can't see any other "downsides" to this other than that. Anyone complaining here can deal with it in some way, because they're on the internet.  

[Amazing Lagann]

a disk or download would be easier, to get the keep info ill have to leave the game and hope ill be near an internet source with my console to get the info for my gameplay not everyone has internet good enough to connect there console too

You won't have to leave the game.

[Messi Kossmann]

Even if you are right, and you are not, maintain KEEP online is a lot easier for the players and developer then local keep, and you no need to close the game. But, even if you are right, demand this 1 mouth before the game lauch is a joke. Nothing big like that will change.