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[TheJediSaint]

"Do what I say or I'll stab you in the face!"  Should be Gaspard's campaign slogan.

[Shadow Fox]

 Why don't we just give it to Teagun to rule as a Ferelden puppet state?

 

Everyone likes him.

 

Eh?Eh?

[Frogtoad51]

Would choose Gaspard in a heartbeat over Celene if he didn't want war with Ferelden. Choosing Celene for Ferelden's sake.

 

Also might choose Briala and let the Elven resistance take over Orlais if that's an option.

[Master Warder Z_]

"Do what I say or I'll stab you in the face!"  Should be Gaspards campaign slogan.

 

[raging_monkey]

hmm he looks very familiar.... XD

[Master Warder Z_]

I doubt it, you are assuming most the heads of the noble houses are Chevaliers

 

He makes a deliberate point of marking the Baron of Lydes a "non" Chevalier.

 

That would infer every other lord present WAS.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Remache actually had kind of a good reason for doing what he did. Celene was boasting about how she was going to burn down his city after she got out of here. He had only Gaspard's belief that he would defeat Michel to stop that from happening to rely on. He was doing what he needed to to protect Lydes and Gaspard was risking it to satisfy his honor and his ego. In the end his was kind of right. Michel defeated Gaspard, he was correct not to trust his abilities to protect his city.

 

Most Orlesian nobles (at least the important higher up ones) aren't Chevaliers. They aren't going to be any more moved by his code of honor than Remach was.

 

WoT says "Joining the Chevaliers is a good way to improve social standing. A good path for lesser, landless nobles, and noble children not in line to inherit."

[Master Warder Z_]

Most Orlesian nobles (at least the important higher up ones) aren't Chevaliers.

 

The MOST important noble is a Chevalier.

 

Grand Duke is a title held by only one man at present.

 

And considering only nobles or those sponsored by nobles can become Chevaliers period, would make a good deal of the nobility Chevaliers.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Many are, but the question was about whether Gaspard himself has noble support. Most Chevaliers are lesser nobles.

[raging_monkey]

Many are, but the question was about whether Gaspard himself has noble support. Most Chevaliers are lesser nobles.

really hate agree with z but he still has noble support lesser or not

[HK-90210]

makes we wonder just how many nobles have adopted a more neutral stance in the civil war....

[Alya_]

Vile Savior

[In Exile]

Many are, but the question was about whether Gaspard himself has noble support. Most Chevaliers are lesser nobles.

 

As long as he has lots of people with pointy metal rods as supports, I think he'll be A-OK. 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Celene - Needs to grow a backbone and have more defining stances on things.

 

Gaspard - Needs to stop being someone who craves for war. 

 

Think our Inquisition can be strong enough  / Inquisitor be persuasive enough to make either one of these 2 things happen ? 

[Daerog]

I'm disappointed that there has been no mention of the Shadows...

 

I hope they will make an appearance in Inquisition.

 

Get them to support Gaspard, get Briala to become allied with Gaspard, and everything will fall into place.

[Mihura]

Celene - Needs to grow a backbone and have more defining stances on things.

 

Gaspard - Needs to stop being someone who craves for war. 

 

Think our Inquisition can be strong enough  / Inquisitor be persuasive enough to make either one of these 2 things happen ? 

 

In my first PT with a surface dwarf, I am going to support the one who gives me a huge advantage at resources.

So no I will not change their ideals but prey on them, I will probably going to stand with Gaspard for getting access to his troops, if he still has enough. I could side with Celene but I do not see anything that I can use on the Inquisition, maybe avoiding a war with Ferelden? nah, my character does not care about them. Unless I have the armies and financial support of the noble of Orlais.

 

Of course there is the matter of Briala giving my character the access to the Eluvians, moving troops, supplies and assassin would be a lot more easy. I would probably consider feeding the civil war. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Of course there is the matter of Briala giving my character the access to the Eluvians, moving troops, supplies and assassin would be a lot more easy. I would probably consider feeding the civil war. 

 

Good luck with that.

 

They tend to have disorienting effects upon non elves.

 

Not to mention i wouldn't be surprised if much of the network was worthless.

 

It was constructed quite a long time ago after all, and every entrance into it so far has been a buried underground ruin.

[Patchwork]

I don't think Gaspard cares about invading Ferelden it's just a way to unite Orlais because unfortunately wars do have a way of doing that. Luckily there's these veil tares with demons pouring out of them that will do the exact same thing. 

 

Gaspard and Celene getting over themselves and working together is probably the best thing for their country but probably not the best for Thedas in the long run.  

[Master Warder Z_]

Gaspard and Celene getting over themselves and working together is probably the best thing for their country but probably not the best for Thedas in the long run.  

 

What's best for Thedas is being strong and unified.

 

A renewed Orlesian Empire will only help.

[HK-90210]

What's best for Thedas is being strong and unified.

 

A renewed Orlesian Empire will only help.

 

Unless Orlais decides to attack Ferelden in another war that will only make sure that both nations will be unprepared for the Sixth Blight or an invasion by Tevinter/Qunari.

 

In the shot term however, I agree. If the Inquisition wants to send the Elder one and his ilk to the Void, it will need Orlais united.

[StrangeStrategy]

Well, when you say everything bad she did all at once of course she sounds like a bad ruler. Some of the stuff you mentioned wasn't even her doing, but Michel's.

Compare her to Gaspard, who does nothing good. He wants war on Ferelden; He forces Celene to deal with the elves. He threatens Compte Pierre, saying he'll burn down all of Halamshiral in case Celene is there. He kills tons of Orlesians, creates a civil war, tons of innocents die... Just so he could rule Orlais. He is the bad guy, definitely. His "chevalier honor" apparently can always be warped enough to justify his actions, he even says so himself.

Celene isn't perfect, but she is still the best hope for Orlais.

[pulsar989]

Their is no happy choice her as to how to support, Gaspard is true to his word be it debts giving the elf money to rebuild his business after Celine people burned it down (with the combined knowledge to do it right because giving out gold in the elven slums is a knife in the back) or slaying his own man for breaking orders on his word. However he did draw first blood starting the war which is bad while trying to start a war with bann Tegan. Celine on the other hand does try to bring people up with universities and elf rights and does not want war, However she lies and betrays without a bit of guilt, so even though she has higher accomplishments she does do worst things like killing her lovers parents and hiding it for 20 years. The Eluvians however what is known is they effect humans (negatively) and Elves (positively) Dwarf and Qunorie is unknown, so they are a very powerful but unknown resource unless your a elf in that case they are a huge advantage. In the end if I play a Elf or maybe a Mage I side with the elves (Briana) to help them over to get their land back then put a empire who is best for them, any other spices or normal human I would side with however is most profitable to my situation.

[Master Warder Z_]

Unless Orlais decides to attack Ferelden in another war that will only make sure that both nations will be unprepared for the Sixth Blight or an invasion by Tevinter/Qunari.

 

In the shot term however, I agree. If the Inquisition wants to send the Elder one and his ilk to the Void, it will need Orlais united.

 

Pfft Fereldan will be unimportant in any future conflict like it has been in every conflict prior in history.

 

Seriously its contributions to history since the time of Andraste haven't gone beyond their borders.

 

DAO being the only notable exception.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

They fought in the Second Blight.

[Augustei]

Both nations broke cultural identity and replaced it with national.

 

The failure of the Scottish independence referendum and the cultural homogeneity of America are proof of this

 

I think that had alot more to do with fiscal repercussions than anything else

Waters of Thedas belongs to Antiva. The Armada even defeated a full front of Qunari fleet during Qunari invasions. 

Antiva was liberated in 7:23, the Armada wasn't formed until 7:55. The Armada are based out of Rivain not Antiva, and the Armada's victory against the Qunari was in the waters of Tevinter not Antiva