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Empress Celene... vile traitor OR savior of Orlais?


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#976
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Celene is a progressive and liberal voice in Thedas. She cares more about progressing society with education and books, and less about conquering the next nation. Although her views aren't as progressive as Briala's, she does believe the elves should have some rights in Orlais, though she believes implementing those plans slowly and not immediately, like how Briala wants.

 

I don't see her as progressive and liberal. She's merely more of what's come before. She's a more-than-willing player of the cancerous, circular Orlesian game, fails to bring about any real progression or change for the elves she claims to care about, and is a cold-blooded manipulator and murderer who seeks power. I agree that she's less about conquering other nations and more about selfishly keeping her butt on the throne.


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#977
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Hehehe ahahaha HAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh Celene you poor doomed fool.



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Both the empress and her former consort are going to die.

 

I think that's plain enough.



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Both the empress and her former consort are going to die.

 

I think that's plain enough.

 

 

I hope you're not spoiling something I'm not privy to.

 

 

In any case, I hope it's up to us what happens. But then again, that might be difficult for them handle. 


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I hope you're not spoiling something I'm not privy to.

 

Nothing beyond the fact the PC can kill both.



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Nothing beyond the fact the PC can kill both.

 

Really?

 

Huh. "Can kill" is different than what you said though. Or maybe I read it wrong. You said it was "plain enough" they would die. As if unavoidable.


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#982
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Really?

 

You see when you stick a sword into someone's vitals this substance called blood pours out of them, if they lose enough "blood" or enough trauma is done to the body, this state called "death" occurs.

 

Its what happens when something ceases to live :)


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#983
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You see when you stick a sword into someone's vitals this substance called blood pours out of them, if they lose enough "blood" or enough trauma is done to the body, this state called "death" occurs.

 

Its what happens when something ceases to live :)

 

You know what I meant. It sounded like you meant universal/definite death. Not possible death.

 

In any case, pardon me. I'm only barely lurking the thread. Jumped in and saw that. I simply wanted clarification.


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I'd prefer to keep this thread Spoiler-free until the release, please.  :police: This is an analysis on what we know of her prior to Inquisition. After release, I will update the OP.


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Hehehe ahahaha HAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh Celene you poor doomed fool.

I can officially say Celene's head is falling down. Celene's head will roll.



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After learning certain spoiler from "Elf Support Thread". I can officially say Celene's head is falling down

:rolleyes:



#987
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:rolleyes:

Whoops, was too excited back then removing it now, and you should remove that quote as well. :P



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I can officially say Celene's head is falling down. Celene's head will roll.

 

At laaast! The false Empress is no more. Heheheheh hahahaha!


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Has Xilizhra found out about this? I was hoping to see her reaction.



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Has Xilizhra found out about this? I was hoping to see her reaction.

 

I don't think so, but it should be lulz worthy when she does :)


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Just imagine the reaction of people who wants to reunite Celene & Briala. It will be priceless.  :devil:


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Spoilers.  :angry:

 

%#@&


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Ahh it's a good day in the Empire.
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It's gonna be fun.  :angry:



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I don't see her as progressive and liberal. She's merely more of what's come before. She's a more-than-willing player of the cancerous, circular Orlesian game, fails to bring about any real progression or change for the elves she claims to care about, and is a cold-blooded manipulator and murderer who seeks power. I agree that she's less about conquering other nations and more about selfishly keeping her white ass on the throne.

 

No, she's not progressive or liberal, according to our modern day standards, but in Thedas, she is. Thedas is stuck in very old times with conquering nations, and the idea of a ruler heavily interested in higher education is a progressive feat itself.

 

As far as Celene concerns herself with the elves, she still supports them to an extent, and that's a very liberal movement for a human in high power to openly support elves. Her reasoning for supporting elves is flawed, but she still wants to support them, and it ultimately would be progress for the elves.

 

Ahhh, the game is nearly here, and I don't want to hear anymore spoilers. DDDD:!!!

 

lol I want Briala and Celene back together too, as screwed up as it is. But I would say their relationship is done.



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I'm SO tempted to say something...

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I really don't understand the apparent fascination with getting Briala and Celene back together. It's pretty disturbing, really. It'd be like getting Marjolaine and Leliana back together.


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DON'T. Say things.

Please.

Even talking around spoilers can reveal spoilers.

Spoiler tags, please.
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I really don't understand the apparent fascination with getting Briala and Celene back together. It's pretty disturbing, really. It'd be like getting Marjolaine and Leliana back together.

 

I don't think it was like that at all. I'll be reserving my judgement for what happens in game. Especially considering the wide difference in opinion between readers of the masked empire, I wouldn't be surprised if I had a different view of events in the game.

 

Spoiler



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I don't think so, but it should be lulz worthy when she does :)


I'm afraid you and the other trolls are in for some disappointment, then.