But haven't you stated multiple times that mages were allowed to participate on commerce they would inevitably come to dominate through economic power? That mage-domination is the foregone conclusion of any society that does not restrict them?
But haven't you stated multiple times that mages were allowed to participate on commerce they would inevitably come to domie through economic power? That mage-domination is the foregone conclusion of any society that does not restrict them?
Jb is a notorious hypocrite. His "everyone except my family has to go to a circle" was the most obvious.
But if the measure of a people's superiority is their ability to dominate others (as you are implying) and mages can and are restricted, then they can't be superior.
But if the measure of a people's superiority is their ability to dominate others (as you are implying) and mages can and are restricted, then they can't be superior.
Isn't that because there are different types of superiority? Mages can be superior in, well, everything magical for obvious reasons, but will always be inferior in numbers. In the end, it's a matter of which superiority counts more.
I'll say this much about the topic title, I don't view Celene as the "Savior" of anything.
What's funny is that in the Trespasser notes, it seems Celene is the only ruler willing to defend the Inquisition whereas Gaspard and Briala want to turn the Inquisition into their puppets.
Jb is a notorious hypocrite. His "everyone except my family has to go to a circle" was the most obvious.
Isn't that because there are different types of superiority? Mages can be superior in, well, everything magical for obvious reasons, but will always be inferior in numbers. In the end, it's a matter of which superiority counts more.
Exactly. Superiority is highly subjective.
You could argue that if all conditions are the same and one rises while the other falls, that one is superior.
Or you can argue that if the one who would normally fall is able to alter conditions so that he wins, then he is the superior one.
Or there are some people who would even argue that the one who fails but did not compromise some moral is the superior one.
Exactly. Superiority is highly subjective.
You could argue that if all conditions are the same and one rises while the other falls, that one is superior.
Or you can argue that if the one who would normally fall is able to alter conditions so that he wins, then he is the superior one.
Or there are some people who would even argue that the one who fails but did not compromise some moral is the superior one.
Isn't that because there are different types of superiority? Mages can be superior in, well, everything magical for obvious reasons, but will always be inferior in numbers. In the end, it's a matter of which superiority counts more.
Not necessarily,numbers can't help you much if you are fighting against opponents who are far more powerful to the point of possessing the powers to alter the entire world like Fen'harel,Falon'din ,Ghilan'nain ecc..in fact i doubt that circle of magi or silly templars would have stopped them.....
Or the Qunari charging Solas and none of them able to touch him.
Indeed,and we don't even know if he was truly at his full potential but since he wasn't with the anchor that he wanted for himself,i presume not.Or the Qunari charging Solas and none of them able to touch him.
Not necessarily,numbers can't help you much if you are fighting against opponents who are far more powerful to the point of possessing the powers to alter the entire world like Fen'harel,Falon'din ,Ghilan'nain ecc..
I would like to be a servant of the mother of the Halla!
Celene is too stupid to rule. Better to have someone despicable but capable like Gaspard rule than someone like Celene, who is too weak to achieve any of her goals anyway.
Celene is too stupid to rule. Better to have someone despicable but capable like Gaspard rule than someone like Celene, who is too weak to achieve any of her goals anyway.
His plans in Masked Empire (trying to nationalize the Circle and using it to wage war, most importantly), wouldn't indicate great capability. The crafty plans he pulled off in the book were most likely the machinations of Remache, who Gaspard killed. Fast-forward to Inquisition he's desperate and easily outmaneuvered by Celene.
Celene is too stupid to rule. Better to have someone despicable but capable like Gaspard rule than someone like Celene, who is too weak to achieve any of her goals anyway.
Capable of what exactly? While some of his plans against Celene were initially met with sucess all of them ultimately failed.
Celene is too stupid to rule. Better to have someone despicable but capable like Gaspard rule than someone like Celene, who is too weak to achieve any of her goals anyway.
Capable? Gaspard?
What's funny is that Briala turns right around and pretty much tries to off any elves that knew of her past relationship with Celene.All I could say about Celine is she's an evil, conniving, and a psychopath who used Briala and betrayed her and responsible for the massacre of the alienage. I would let her die with my elven Inquisitor, so Briala could take over as an act of justice for her crimes. If Orlais want to declare war so be it.
Briala is a fool by sleeping with her in the first place, well even she said no to the empress' face she would be in deep trouble. So she had to do whatever she says if she wanted to live and Celine doesn't even love her anyway. She just sees her as a elven sex toy nothing more nothing less, and using her as a resource instead valuing her as her lover.What's funny is that Briala turns right around and pretty much tries to off any elves that knew of her past relationship with Celene.
Briala is a fool by sleeping with her in the first place, well even she said no to the empress' face she would be in deep trouble. So she had to do whatever she says if she wanted to live and Celine doesn't even love her anyway. She just sees her as a elven sex toy nothing more nothing less, and using her as a resource instead valuing her as her lover.
Now, now let's not go overboard and invent new reasons to hate on Celene as if there wern't enoguh legitimate ones. Her realtionships wit Briala is/was a pretty f*cked up one that was based on lies and murder, no doubt. But you are just making stuff up now.
None of these two things,she is just someone who is trying to do her best interests like most persons i've met.
She is no savior she is no traitor but i also believe that she is not a good person since it is obvious that in order to rule upon the game one has to be a shark.
Briala is a fool by sleeping with her in the first place, well even she said no to the empress' face she would be in deep trouble. So she had to do whatever she says if she wanted to live and Celine doesn't even love her anyway. She just sees her as a elven sex toy nothing more nothing less, and using her as a resource instead valuing her as her lover.
Briala wasn't a fool at all for sleeping with Celene. She got a lot of influence and power for doing it.
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