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[BloodKaiden]

From what we've seen of the Wardens unless its a Blight or other Darkspawn problems they usually let others handle their own problems. Cass was originally looking for Hawke in DA2 so...kinda makes sense.

[Rainbow Wyvern]

While I don't presume to know exactly what BioWare is doing with the story in DA:I, I expect Hawke's appearance has something to do with Corypheus. S/he did let him out. 

Hawke is also connected to the mage/templar conflict, which plays a part in DA:I. They are also much, much easier to implement since they are more 'defined' than the Warden. Set race, set voice, and one of three personalities. 

 

The Warden is still a Grey Warden. Their job is to stop Blights if there is one, and kill darkspawn. The darkspawn are probably not a major enemy in DA:I, and with the added complications of them being voiceless, one of three races, male or female, and having a less defined personality, the Warden not having a cameo makes sense. 

I believe BioWare has stated that they will explain the disappearance of the Hero of Ferelden and that they will play a part in the story. They just will not physically appear. 

[BloodKaiden]

The Grey Wardens can be sought out for other situations too. They don't only act against Darkspawn. A demon invasion would probably get their attention.

Which is why we have Blackwall I suppose, maybe we'll get the option to have Grey Warden troops or something. I personally feel like Hawke would be more sought after than the Warden since seeking him/her probably has to do with the Mage / Templar conflict.

[SmilesJA]

Hawke played a key role in starting the Mage/Templar war. It's not a surprise that he is more sought after than the Warden.

[herkles]

Well for my Grey Warden, there is an easy reason as to why she won't be able to be seen in DA:I. she is busy in Ferlden, being the Queen as she married Alistair and became the queen of Ferlden. While she likes to do good and help people, she has to look out and protect Ferlden first; especailly over Orlesians.

 

 

[TheKomandorShepard]

Some of my warden left wardens and didn't give about their rules but still i don't want see them in game.

 

Not mention there is quest to search for the warden as we saw but most likely we just won't find them.

[Lumix19]

I feel like this has been discussed more than enough. People have given the answer that's based off the information at hand - Hawke is directly involved in the Mage/Templar war whilst the Warden is not. There are also additional problems with the Warden's appearance versus Hawke's. If you want another answer I suggest you ask Bioware themselves.

[KaiserShep]

Remember that The Warden ended the Ferelden Civil War almost as soon as it truly began. Stopping a Blight, slaying an Archdemon, and resolving a civil war in a short amount of time? Yeah, I'd say The Warden's qualified enough to be of great importance. Politics and war are something the Hero probably is better at than Hawke.

 

I think the Warden's adeptness at politics is being a bit overplayed here. I mean, the Ferelden Civil War wasn't won by the Warden's sharp political mind or anything like that. It was won because a lot of people got killed in a collaborative effort with the Antivan Crows, which Master Ignacio initiated, and Arl Howe's dungeon turned out to be a smorgasbord of support material after you kill him too. Basically, most of the Warden's accomplishments can be boiled down to lots of people being rubbed out so the opposition wears thin. And even then, if the Warden doesn't go through with the assassinations and all that other stuff, it can still be won by winning a duel. The Warden can totally bomb the Landsmeet and still win. With both of them being dragon-slaying murder machines, I don't see either doing any better or worse, with the obvious exception of the Archdemon, since a Warden has to kill that thing. The differences seem to be purely circumstantial.

[Lebanese Dude]

Pretty sure that the inquisition didnt post an ad in the local newspaper to find qualified heroes and then chose Hawke.

The story in DAI involves both Hawke and the Warden but for reasons yet unknown to us, the Warden doesnt physically appear. We literally have zero understanding of the plot, beyond that it involves the mage-Templar war and the elder one. The claim that Bioware thinks Hawke more worthy is unfounded and illogical.

Point a la ligne.

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

Given this...

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

I'm guessing you do look for the Warden. Maybe. Perhaps Stroud, who appears to be your ally here, ends up finding him/her rather than you, and you never actually see them because of that. Or something. I don't know. It's been said they'll have more presence than a passing mention. 

 

I guess we'll see soon enough.

[caradoc2000]

The Warden can reach at most level 35, while Hawke can reach level 50. Myself, I'd take Hawke.

[KaiserShep]

How the heck do you even get to level 50? I had to go through the gamut of expansions to get to 35 for the Warden.

[dsl08002]

I agree with the person starting the topic.

Its not like you are an engineer who is going to perform brain surgerory.

You are not in this case limited to one cause, if that was the case why is blackwall in DAI then. His personality maybe.

which is one of the reson that i dont find the disappearance logical or satisfying. Would you truly be apathatic enough to stand by watching the rest of the world go down. That is not my warden way. Not my way either.

But i guess we have to see what bioware has in store for us.

[TheKomandorShepard]

There is no way you could reach 50 level in da 2 without cheats pretty much i never got even 30 level in da 2 at best something around 26-27 with both dlc so i guess 30 perhaps is max.

 

 

I agree with the person starting the topic.

Its not like you are an engineer who is going to perform brain surgerory.

You are not in this case limited to one cause, if that was the case why is blackwall in DAI then. His personality maybe.

which is one of the reson that i dont find the disappearance logical or satisfying. Would you truly be apathatic enough to stand by watching the rest of the world go down. That is not my warden way. Not my way either.

But i guess we have to see what bioware has in store for us.

That you don't see them doesn't mean they don't do something because how you can know that if you don't know what they are doing...

[Chanda]

Hawke dealt with Corypheus, the Warden did not. And even if you didn't play Legacy, Hawke's father was directly involved with binding Corypheus by use of his own blood. So maybe in order to bind Corypheus again, it will take the blood of Hawke another time.

Plus there's that whole directly involved with the mage and templar war and Meredith turning into a red lyrium husk.

[BloodKaiden]

Honestly as much as I liked my Warden it might be better she doesn't show up. My Warden was kinda a kill all take no prisoners power hungry Blood mage. And with Blood Mage no longer a class I don't know how they'd implement her.

[Lumix19]

Hawke dealt with Corypheus, the Warden did not. And even if you didn't play Legacy, Hawke's father was directly involved with binding Corypheus by use of his own blood. So maybe in order to bind Corypheus again, it will take the blood of Hawke another time.

Plus there's that whole directly involved with the mage and templar war and Meredith turning into a red lyrium husk.

Just for clarification any non-warden Mage could use blood magic to renew Corypheus' seals. It just required the blood of that mage (or a relation of that mage) to break the seal.

[Kierro Ren]

Just a question. The Warden's job is to defeat the Darkspawn, yet fights and kills an Archdemon. DA:I you fight nothing but demons, Templars, and Mages. Hawke tho an ok character, was just a spoiled noble. Goes on one exploration, and kills a High Dragon, and Arishok, then gets a house and a title...Please.

 

The Warden? Can kill at least 2 High Dragons, The Architect, countless Darkspawn, countless Ogres, made a Dwarf King, saved Eamon, saved the Circle of Magi, cured the Dalish, returned to Ostegar to honor the late king, sorta killed Flemith, can become the new leader of the Fereldan Wardens, killed the Archdemon, made their friend Alistair King, and saved a whole coun-- er no, the WHOLE WORLD, before asking a boon.

 

Hawke? Hawke's only a champ for personal gain, namely her/his family name. The Warden had no choice in the matter, even if you said "No I don't wanna go." You're forced by conscription. The Warden is the true hero. And yes Hawke unleashed a terrible evil on the world, when s/he should of left well alone.

 

Tho Hawke's my Warden's cousin, Hawke is a selfish moron, and can't even compete to the deeds the Warden had done.

[Lumix19]

I'm not sure why Corypheus keeps being brought up. Yes, Hawke may have some part in defeating him through bloodlines, but Corypheus himself was a servant of the Archdemons, specifically Dumat. The Hero of Ferelden was able to slay an actual Archdemon, if you chose, and also killed the Architect, if you chose to do so. If anything, The Warden's got plenty of experience in dealing with very powerful servants of the Old Gods, and in dealing with one of the Old Gods itself.

Yes so the Warden should be dealing with Corypheus and the Architect (if you kept him alive) not the Mage-Templar war or the Breach, what's your point?

[Chanda]

I'm not sure why Corypheus keeps being brought up. Yes, Hawke may have some part in defeating him through bloodlines, but Corypheus himself was a servant of the Archdemons, specifically Dumat. The Hero of Ferelden was able to slay an actual Archdemon, if you chose, and also killed the Architect, if you chose to do so. If anything, The Warden's got plenty of experience in dealing with very powerful servants of the Old Gods, and in dealing with one of the Old Gods itself.

Oh... Umm...

I guess you'll know why when you play Inquisition.

[Kieran G.]

I really don't know why people keep asking why Hawke and not the Warden. we haven't played the game so none of us know. we can speculate sure. but its obviously for story and OK the Warden is very cool Quite OP and definitely a major person in Thedas. 

 

But they are a Grey Warden who can presumably be DEAD. so how can you have a character be a plot device if they can also be dead? 
You could have it like ME3 where you meet people for the first time who are barely written or developed Characters, Hell i don't even remember the names of the replacement Character in ME3 besides Wreav.

 

Hawke is very much alive at the end of DA2. he was at the starting fire of the MT war, He personally released Corypheus. Both those are kinda cliff hanger. the only kinda cliff hanger in DA:O was that of a expansion where you go through the portal and again you don't have to so you can pretty much have the warden's story be wrapped up at the end of DA:O if you choose.

 

And DA as it seems to have a pension for mentioning things in earlier games which show up in later games. so just because the warden was menitoned in DA2 doesn't mean we would have to see him in DA:I his story could be more a plot point in DA4. We really don't know so instead we should just be patient and wait for the game before going on about "Why Hawke and not my Warden?"

 

And yes he killed a Archedemon... Great you are a super powerful man. but that's over, why do i need to send my agents out to find the warden when they can be looking for someone who might actually know what's happening? Obviously the warden isn't important to the story so he isn't showing up, or they would have flushed his personality out, brought in voice actors. made it so we can design his character like we can hawkes and do all of that so we can get that plot point of why the warden is in the game. but since there is no plot point for the warden to show up. he isn't going to show up.

 

But again we have no clue what so ever. We don't know why he didn't show up, we don't know why Hawke shows up. We don't know since we haven't played it and asking why and arguing about it isn't going to change that. I wanted to see my warden. i wanted to see my Warden wearing the ring Morrigan gave him. But i got over it since he is obviously not showing up because of story reasons. so i just accepted it.