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[BloodKaiden]

Just a question. The Warden's job is to defeat the Darkspawn, yet fights and kills an Archdemon. DA:I you fight nothing but demons, Templars, and Mages. Hawke tho an ok character, was just a spoiled noble. Goes on one exploration, and kills a High Dragon, and Arishok, then gets a house and a title...Please.
 
The Warden? Can kill at least 2 High Dragons, The Architect, countless Darkspawn, countless Ogres, made a Dwarf King, saved Eamon, saved the Circle of Magi, cured the Dalish, returned to Ostegar to honor the late king, sorta killed Flemith, can become the new leader of the Fereldan Wardens, killed the Archdemon, made their friend Alistair King, and saved a whole coun-- er no, the WHOLE WORLD, before asking a boon.
 
Hawke? Hawke's only a champ for personal gain, namely her/his family name. The Warden had no choice in the matter, even if you saved "No I don't wanna go." You're forced by conscription. The Warden is the true hero. And yes Hawke unleashed a terrible evil on the world, when s/he should of left well alone.
 
Tho Hawke's my Warden's cousin, Hawke is a selfish moron, and can't even compete to the deeds the Warden had done.

Well...that's one way to look at things. Why people compare these two is beyond me, I mean these two people were completely thrown into different situations and conflicts. Hawke was not selfish, he was just a person trying to live his life and put in difficult situations. It's not like it was his job to save all Kirkwall.

[Fieryeel]

Because there's no way to satisfy everyone.

 

Warden appears: Why did you make the warden appear? In my story, he's dead/with Morrigan/living life happily with LI/something-something

 

Simplest solution? Don't let the warden appear at all.

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

Because Hawke is needed to end the Mage-Templar war, obviously. Cassandra was convinced he was instrumental to solving the problem, for reasons I don't really understand. We know the conflict is resolved rather early in the game. My guess is that you do what Cassandra couldn't do, find Hawke, he does something and you're done.

[dsl08002]

The impression that got After DA2 ending was that when the whole cassandra leliana scene happened it was like they searched for the warden then moved on to the champion.

And it actually make sense and logical. They are searching for a way to end the conflict. Leliana might have suggested that the warden could help as well, considering the problems he solved before. And condiering that she was my wardens LI she has more the reason for finding the warden. But this is according to my world state.

[BlueMagitek]

Say what you want about Hawke, regardless of what went down, that person is a legendary fighter.  Why wouldn't he or she be sought after in a huge conflict?

[katerinafm]

Because technically the Wardens are not even supposed to mix in political affairs (though we know how that turns out) and the Wardens are good at stopping Blights. There isn't a Blight going on in DAI as far as I know, but there IS a mage/templar war going on and Hawke was there right at the beginning and was present at all key events (hence Cassandra interrogating Varric and wanting to know everything in DA2).

[AresKeith]

Say what you want about Hawke, regardless of what went down, that person is a legendary fighter. Why wouldn't he or she be sought after in a huge conflict?

Yea, Hawke is a really good fighter

Just don't have them make big choices

[teenparty]

But The Warden isn't? It seems that finding Hawke will be a main quest or a quest in general, but The Warden isn't going to be making a major appearance. Why? Why does the Inquisition think Hawke is more important than the man or woman who personally ended the Blight, directly or indirectly, and also potentially slew the Archdemon? You don't get much more dangerous than a massive Blight led by a corrupted God. Is it just for technical reasons due to the different types of endings of Origins? Even then, I still wish/hope Bioware does more with the Origins PC, regardless of what path they chose. You'd still think that the Inquisition would seek The Warden above all others anyway.

Have you considered that the Warden may simply be better at hiding?

[Xiltas]

Have you considered that the Warden may simply be better at hiding?

 

Hero of Ferelden. Hide-and-Seek-Champion since Dragon Age 9:30.

[KaiserShep]

Hawke? Hawke's only a champ for personal gain, namely her/his family name. The Warden had no choice in the matter, even if you said "No I don't wanna go." You're forced by conscription. The Warden is the true hero. And yes Hawke unleashed a terrible evil on the world, when s/he should of left well alone.

 

You're wrong on a couple of points.

 

Hawke isn't a Champion for personal gain, because as far as I can tell, this title wasn't something she was even aware of to aspire to. Meredith just declares it after the qunari are dealt with. While Hawke does other things for personal gain, it wouldn't just be for her benefit, since the intended goal was to make a better life for the entire family. I don't think this has any weight on the issue of what it means to be a "true hero".

 

As for the terrible evil, leaving well enough alone would require Hawke and Bethany or Carver to continue fighting tainted Carta dwarves for some reason while Janeka ultimately unlocks Cory's cage to do Maker knows what. It's not like Hawke just decided "Hey, I wanna take a vacation in the Deep Roads!" or something. And besides that, even if no one did anything, Corypheus would have escaped eventually, since the seals were weakening.

[Jaison1986]

Because technically the Wardens are not even supposed to mix in political affairs (though we know how that turns out) and the Wardens are good at stopping Blights. There isn't a Blight going on in DAI as far as I know, but there IS a mage/templar war going on and Hawke was there right at the beginning and was present at all key events (hence Cassandra interrogating Varric and wanting to know everything in DA2).

 

Not true if you follow Morrigan or become royalty. In these two scenarion you abandon the wardens in order to pursue some personal goal, and thus owning no political neutrality. So while there is no blight to deal with, the warden means a lot when it comes to symbolical value and personal abilities. What do you think would happen to the morale if everyone knew the vanquisher of the blight agree to help the Inquisition? And after all they have endured, the warden would certanly be an great help to any battle.

[Chernaya]

Because Cassandra's main goal has been to find Hawke, as we learned in DA2. Hawke was there when the war started, and she knew the person who actually initiated it. Cassandra thinks Hawke may have some answers, and so after interrogating Varric she continues to search for her.

 

While the warden appearing would be awesome, it's also easy to see why that isn't simple. Doing so would mean they would have to choose voices, set a personality, ect. Even with a CC, people would get upset because the warden wouldn't sound or act like they imagined their warden to. There will be a mission connected to the warden though, so it's not like we're going to go through the whole game like they never existed.

[Reptillius]

Cassandra never actually says that Hawke can stop the mage/Templar conflict.  All she says is that she Feels Hawke is important to the Conflict. And she would be right. Being one of the closest to the center of the conflict when it happened and being heavily believed by regular people to actually have caused it directly. That would make Hawke invaluable to ending the conflict not in actually having Hawke end it but being armed with the knowledge of what happened can go a long way to divising a strategy to solve the problem.  Meaning our Hero for the whole Conflict could still be the Inquisitor. Hawke is just a powerful resource of information and I wouldn't put it past Cassandra to interrogate and Kill Hawke for causing the problem.

[PrinceLionheart]