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I have tried to test an area this morning and the game hangs on launch. It will not go through the vids to the opening GUI.

 

Things worthy of note:

 

I am set to full screen mode (i'm not usually)

I got a win7 update last night (who know what that was :()

I unistalled BGII yesterday cos I had borked it from the WeiiDu toolset :)

I have reinstalled the game from GoG this morning to see if I havedone owt in the BGII un-intsall.

The toolset launches just fine so all is not lost in the short term :D

 

Has anyone had anythign similar or can yo point me to some things I might try. I understand it is possible to not have the opening vid but I never got round to removing them.

 

PJ



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You can set your PC back to before the update using the system restore function and have you updated the game or does the GoG one come fully patched ? Although this is a bit late it might help in the future, once your game is running fine stick the program files and documents versions on a hard drive then you never have to update or reinstall again just drag it straight in if something goes wrong I haven't used my disc for years.

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I will look at system restore thanks. I've never had cause to use that.

 

GoG comes patched fortunately :)

 

I will give it a go now.

 

PJ



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I have tried to test an area this morning and the game hangs on launch. It will not go through the vids to the opening GUI.
 
... I understand it is possible to not have the opening vid but I never got round to removing them.


this probly won't fix anything, but it makes loading/tests less frustrating:

in Docs/NwN2/nwn2.ini

[Display Options]
Disable Intro Movies=1

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Thanks for that.

 

I had to type that line in does it matter where?

 

I also saw that I can change full screen mode there too so I changed that to =0 and it launches (or tries to) in a window.

 

Anyhow you are right, changing that did not fix things.

 

I changed the system back to before i did the unistall but that did not do it It started once but then did not again and even got shirty about the opening GUI. I suspect it is not a window update now as it would have affected everyone on win7?

 

I am going to try to see if there are graphic card drivers I am not up to date with.

 

Any thoughts would be welcomed.

 

PJ



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I had to type that line in does it matter where?

in the section marked [Display Options], anywhere with the other entries there.


you could try re-installing the Dx9.0c redistributable ... maybe the update mucked with it ( unlikely )

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At the moment that seems to have fixed it but it hangs an enormous amount of time before booting the vids. They still play so i will check the .ini again. Perhaps that delay is what has been happening all along.

 

When I say a long time to boot I am talking "go away, make a cup of tea and half drink it" amounts of time. I ahve not timed it because I have never yet been in the room when it finally got to the opening GUI. 

 

I reinstalled BGII so that might have mucked about with the directx? Can anyone think of a way to get rid of this huge lag?

 

PJ



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any chance you have the toolset running with a module opened while you try to start nwn2? i am encountering the same behaviour when a module is active within the toolset. closing it will let me start nwn2 without issues.



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Thanks Semper.

 

I don't recall that it was but I will try none the less.

 

PJ



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Hmmm Just timed it. 

 

With nothing else running it took four minutes to get to the main menu and there were no vids.

 

I would appreciate some thoughts. I have done all I can think of and that has been advised so far. It's going to make testing a pain in the a....

 

PJ



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you tried rebooting the computer, right?



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Several times since the problem started :(

 

PJ



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it could be a hardware problem.



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As it turns out it's not I don't think ... though who knows.

 

I have a solution which I guess I could have seen coming based on what was happening.

 

I put the SoZ disk in the D drive and started the game.

 

That may make you laugh, and you may be thinking of some names for me right now but I have not played the game with the disk on the D drive pretty much since I installed it. At some point on Friday night, something changed an it needed it to boot the game. I am down to 10 seconds boot time with the disk in and a record of 6 minutes without it.

 

If I knew more about what the game was looking for when it boots the real solution should be in the solution I have identified. But I don't and I shall play with the disk in from now onwards :)

 

PJ



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there's something messed up with your nwn2 installation then. are you on the latest patch? afaik vers 1.23 removed securom and doesn't check your drives anymore.



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the GoG version is just a little just a *smidgeon* suspect, imo.

nothing absolute; just having read about and dealt with many players' problems it makes my eyes narrow a bit,



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That might not be related at all, but I noticed that when I had the bluetooth on on both the laptop and the phone, the launch time was noticeably increased. Now that I think of it, lately I had to turn BT on again, forgot to switch it off, and the delay was normal... Many windows 7 updates since then, so I'm not sure what caused this at the beginning and what fixed it after.



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I don't have such things as bluetooth :)

 

The game should be updated as it is the latest GoG D/L?

 

None the less thanks for the suggestions. It's good to be able to test again and having the disc in is a small price.

 

PJ



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I have noticed that despite being on patch 1.23 and not needing the disc in the drive, it still checks whatever disc happens to be in the drive, even if it does nothing with what it finds there.  I've noticed that this makes the game take longer to start up than if there is no disc in the drive.  Possibly if there's a difficult-to-read disc in the drive, or the drive is getting old and breaking down, it could take even longer.



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That's an interesting observation. I will experiment. I had the BG II disc in the drive during the problem period.

 

PJ



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Sorry to question this disc theory but I haven't used my NWN2 disc for years and mine starts very fast no matter what game's in the drive ( always something I left there ) and some have been big gbs worth of disc.



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It works though? I just tried with no disc and with the BGII disk and the BGII disc was the cause of the lag .... 

 

May be its that disc in particular that causes the problem ...

 

PJ

 

*shuffles away to find some more discs*



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woohoo! sounds like a solve

 

(and perhaps another BGII sale)

 

 

[to elaborate]
when i have a disc in the drive, NwN2 always checks it out before proceeding.

if no disc is in the drive load is a straight go.


ergo a faulty disc that the drive has trouble reading the header ... cause to stall



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To add to what I said about faulty drives, I've had several drives break down selectively over time.  They have always started having trouble reading CD-ROMs, whereas DVD-ROMs continued to read without trouble in the same drive, possibly due to it using a different laser.  This caused trouble for me, since I have many older games on CD-ROM, so I had to keep an old external drive around until I got a replacement. 

 

You mention it was a BG2 disc.  I also have disc versions of the BG series.  The main game, BG2: Shadows of Amn is a DVD-ROM, but its expansion, Throne of Bhaal, is a CD-ROM.  Just a little extra data for the experiments.