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[Puppy Love]

Well if it was optional for others then sure. 

What does that even mean?  Armor is random drops.  I'm asking for some, not all, all would be ridiculous.

 

What does optional actually mean?  Please define what you consider passes as optional.

[Tayah]

Well if it was optional for others then sure. 

Yeah, all she's asking for is the option for those that want it. I tend to prefer more gender neutral and less skirts but I like some ornamentation sometimes and the armour with the tunic over it I could totally enjoy on some of my characters... not to mention the elven armour for my dalish. Ultimately though I like a variety of options so more people can find something they like.    

 

@Puppy Love, I think the poster meant optional as in you don't have to wear it and may have skimmed the thread too quickly before replying... just a guess.

 

Also you can find and/or buy schematics for crafting armour as well as picking up the random drops so maybe a few of the ornamental/feminine styles could be acquired that way as well. I mean if you're going to craft for the colours why not for the style as well?  

[Doominike]

As schematics would be fine

[Puppy Love]

As schematics would be fine

If we're going to have armors that exist only as schematics and aren't found on random npcs or as random drops, I see no reason to not give such options to the people that want skimpy armor as well, since at that point the arguments against them are irrelevant as they'd only exist in games where people choose to create them.

[Doominike]

Sure I guess, as long I get my cool non-girly armors/attires I don't care

[Grieving Natashina]

Sure I guess, as long I get my cool non-girly armors/attires I don't care

That's how I feel as well.  

[Puppy Love]

Two pics someone found I really liked on here.  The more feminine skirts do a lot i my opinion, and as shown on here earlier by another poster, lots of armors in real life had similar things just as long and flowing.

 

[Remmirath]

I think there are some things that could very easily be applied to armour customisation that could work for you here, and also work for just general customisation purposes.

Tunics/skirts/tabards: A variety of armour historically had these, and so long as you've got a few different options on them (patterns, braid/no braid, colour) they could work very well for personalisation of armour in general -- which, since we've got crafting and customisation, is presumably at least something of a goal.

Etching/design work in the armour itself: This kind of thing, which a colour option or two and several style options, could go a ways. That can more or less be applied across all forms of armour, including leather.

Straps/ribbons: Armour with plates needs some manner of fastenings and straps, and those would have room for this kind of detail.

Fluting/styling: Not all plate armour is simply round; fluting is a perfectly historically valid way to alter the style, and actually can have some structural benefits. Scale can have differently shaped scales, and so forth. Different rondel designs could be good for this as well.

Different armour combinations than we've had before: Breasplate over chainmail, for instance, leaves more room for some different styling; in fact, half plate in general is something that I would like to see allowed for.

Basically, I'm all for armour customisation in general, especially with it staying within the realms of believable and valid armour -- which there's no reason that this wouldn't. Fancy or frilly things are not usually to my taste, but I could see myself using some of those options for other reasons for some of my characters if they were there (etching, fluting, and differently coloured bits especially). All options open to all is good, if you ask me, and I think it entirely fair and reasonable that everyone should have the option of somewhat more fancy (and even frilly/delicate appearing) armour just as they have the option of it being less so.

[Puppy Love]

I think there are some things that could very easily be applied to armour customisation that could work for you here, and also work for just general customisation purposes.

Tunics/skirts/tabards: A variety of armour historically had these, and so long as you've got a few different options on them (patterns, braid/no braid, colour) they could work very well for personalisation of armour in general -- which, since we've got crafting and customisation, is presumably at least something of a goal.

Etching/design work in the armour itself: This kind of thing, which a colour option or two and several style options, could go a ways. That can more or less be applied across all forms of armour, including leather.

Straps/ribbons: Armour with plates needs some manner of fastenings and straps, and those would have room for this kind of detail.

Fluting/styling: Not all plate armour is simply round; fluting is a perfectly historically valid way to alter the style, and actually can have some structural benefits. Scale can have differently shaped scales, and so forth. Different rondel designs could be good for this as well.

Different armour combinations than we've had before: Breasplate over chainmail, for instance, leaves more room for some different styling; in fact, half plate in general is something that I would like to see allowed for.

Basically, I'm all for armour customisation in general, especially with it staying within the realms of believable and valid armour -- which there's no reason that this wouldn't. Fancy or frilly things are not usually to my taste, but I could see myself using some of those options for other reasons for some of my characters if they were there (etching, fluting, and differently coloured bits especially). All options open to all is good, if you ask me, and I think it entirely fair and reasonable that everyone should have the option of somewhat more fancy (and even frilly/delicate appearing) armour just as they have the option of it being less so.

And this is basically what I'm asking for, just said much better

[Grieving Natashina]

Well then, maybe the next time the devs ask, "What would you like to see," perhaps request seeing more of the customization options.   I'm wondering myself and it's one of the only gameplay elements that I'm curious about pre-launch.  I wouldn't mind some of these ideas happening.  I just wish I knew how far we could go.  If, say, we can do things like fancier scrollwork or more ornamentation on our armor, I'd love to see a dev's example of it.  Perhaps some of the process behind it as well. 

[Eri]

Here's some I like..

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[Doominike]

That death knight thing at the bottom looks pretty cool

[Roamingmachine]

+1 internet to the op for having the vision that armor can be feminine without the bleeping boob plate or chainmail bikini

Ornamentation and fitting (as in making the armor fit the general body shape of the wearer) Is a-ok. Ladies have diffrent upper body proportions on the hips/chest/shoulder regions that should be reflected on the design of plate armor.  With ornamentation, the sky (and the contents of your purse) is the limit. The pics the op posted on this page are actually pretty good examples of ornate, clearly feminine but completely functional armor.

[PhroXenGold]

Yeah, I pretty much agree with Remmirath above. There's a huge amount you can do with detailing, tabards, fluting etc. to give a lot of customisation and "fanciness" to armour without compromising the plausibility of the underlying design. Here's a few more rather flamboyant bits of historical plate armour:

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Wouldn't neccesarily call any of it feminine, but it shows the kind of thing that was done to make armour more showy and indivdualised. "Realistic" armour doesn't have to be boring.

 

(as an aside, note the glorious lack of stupid pauldrons...)

[SardaukarElite]

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Wouldn't neccesarily call any of it feminine

 

It's interesting how they all nip in at the waist, and then pronounce the hips giving something aproaching that womanly wasp / hourglass shape though.

[Eri]

Yeah, I pretty much agree with Remmirath above. There's a huge amount you can do with detailing, tabards, fluting etc. to give a lot of customisation and "fanciness" to armour without compromising the plausibility of the underlying design. Here's a few more rather flamboyant bits of historical plate armour:

 

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I find these absolutely gorgeous in design and detail -- as flamboyant as they are -- a lovely mix of beauty and functionality. The last one is especially beautiful; even in the relative gloom you can see how the light plays over the detailing. Imagine how that would have looked in full sunlight paraded through the city or during a tourney.

[Roamingmachine]

It's interesting how they all nip in at the waist, and then pronounce the hips giving something aproaching that womanly wasp / hourglass shape though.

The second last one with the beak helm...notice how the chestplate has the curve around the chest area instead of the gut area like most of the other examples here? Even shaped just right to keep funbags out of the way but not extremely uncomfortably?  Hmmm....

[puppyofwar]

Less protective than full plates, but good for mages or rogues, yes?

 

I also wonder how OP think about Cate Blanchett's armor in Elizabeth II, does that count as feminine?

 

PS: I thought I've seen the worst of amor-bikinies since I live in Japan, but good lord was I wrong...

[Puppy Love]

 

I also wonder how OP think about Cate Blanchett's armor in Elizabeth II, does that count as feminine?

Having trouble finding a clear picture of it to judge, never saw the movie.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Here's another couple examples of what I think is feminine armor in Dragon Age lore:

 

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[PhroXenGold]

Here's another couple examples of what I think is feminine armor in Dragon Age lore:

 

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Nice armour....but I don't really see why the top one is feminine. Looks like, well, just plain old armour with no indication of sex either way. I mean, compare it to the historical armours I posted further up the page. Pretty similar overall in terms of shape. Not that that's a criticism, on the contrary, I think that's a positive thing. It looks completeley believable as a suit of proper protective armour.

[Gill Kaiser]

I think she's appeared earlier in this thread as part of a fanart, but I've always been partial to Hildegard von Krone's armour:

[puppyofwar]

I think she's appeared earlier in this thread as part of a fanart, but I've always been partial to Hildegard von Krone's armour:

Fully armored Lady?In Soul Calibur?! MADNESS!

[puppyofwar]

Add some pants and we're good

[puppyofwar]

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Of corsue these don't fit the DA setting, I just want to show that changing the under-cloth, adding more accessories and embroidery, armors can be beautiful !

And those with the exception of the third photo, all the above are 100% functional armor.