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[Medhia_Nox]

I know I'll get crap for this... but are "feminine" armors really classified as (any armor in which useless decorative pieces are added over practicality)? 

 

End of the world people - eye on the prize.  You can get your Louis Vuitton Backpacks and your armor by Christian Dior after the Breach is closed no?  

 

That being said - while I despise anime art in general (something way too unnatural about it) that is purely opinion - my opinion on armors in DA:I have no bearing on whether or not I think ornate armors (male or female) look amazing - because many of them do. 

 

Anyway - it's all subjective what someone finds feminine or attractive or appealing anyway - personally, I think many straight men would find a woman who took a "no nonsense, no frills" approach very sexy... while women, well - how many of you female gamers are both prissy and tomboys (at the exact same time)?

 

It's hardly an issue - there's a month till release - they're not adding or changing anything at this point (at least nothing that don't already have planned).

[zMataxa]

^LOL Medhia_Nox. 

Some of us want our "Christian Dior" outfits from the beginning.

Isn't the meaning of our individual lives, besides survival of the species, to feel alive and happy?

Isn't this a fantasy game where the goal is to feel alive?

Lots of halo-fan guys like to wear armor, helmets, masks, be cool and powerful.  That's their moment of brain heaven.

So some of us have some variations on these needs?

Your tastes might not value fashion and all of its ornamentation and symbolism - but for some of us it's a treat we're willing to pay extra for (or I am).

 

They may not be changing or adding anything, but there's the matter of getting prepared for DLC, and maybe more customization options if sufficient demand exists.

Or dream, some kind of modding help. 

If it's true, as posted earlier in this thread, that there's just one causal outfit around the keep - gaaa that is simply spartan.

This is not Sparta!

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

The game is one month away. I'm pretty sure all armours are finalized already.

[Medhia_Nox]

@zMataxa:  Interesting you said "around the Keep". 

 

Because THAT is where the clothing options should get crazy fun.  The finest in Orlesian dresses, CLEAN pantaloons, and silk cushions for my very very important posterior. 

 

I just believe that there is a time for luxury that isn't "out in the field".  Personally - it would outrage the fashion fantasy crowd - but I'd prefer armor to be blackened, beaten, ripped, punctured, etc. etc. 

[Puppy Love]

@zMataxa:  Interesting you said "around the Keep". 

 

Because THAT is where the clothing options should get crazy fun.  The finest in Orlesian dresses, CLEAN pantaloons, and silk cushions for my very very important posterior. 

 

I just believe that there is a time for luxury that isn't "out in the field".  Personally - it would outrage the fashion fantasy crowd - but I'd prefer armor to be blackened, beaten, ripped, punctured, etc. etc. 

And you should have that option.  But not everyone finds realism to the point of wearing dirty and grimy things with tattered cloth, ect interesting.  Next thing you know we'll need gnat swarms after walking in muck, be covered in dirt and grime...  Heck we need smell o vision so we can literally smell how stinky our characters are.  We also need a counter like to keep track of when we need to take bathroom breaks.  Let's make sure we make everything as dirty real as possible.  I want my characters to get gangrene and suffer serious infection by wound in the field. /end snark  

 

Consider me outraged.

 

I understand Dragon Age is kind of dark, but there are points to draw the line.  Everyone draws it at a different point.  I have no problems with some rust bucket outfits, but that's not to everyone's tastes, so I say, share and share alike.

[zMataxa]

I just believe that there is a time for luxury that isn't "out in the field".  Personally - it would outrage the fashion fantasy crowd - but I'd prefer armor to be blackened, beaten, ripped, punctured, etc. etc. 

Pictures.  I need pictures!

Here's a counter version. 

 

http://www.nexusmods...age/mods/3838/?

As for this first pic, I'd prefer a more conservative version.

But the detail is great, and could make a fine base to work from.

 

 

Some of us can stay so clean!!

[In Exile]

Yeah, I pretty much agree with Remmirath above. There's a huge amount you can do with detailing, tabards, fluting etc. to give a lot of customisation and "fanciness" to armour without compromising the plausibility of the underlying design. Here's a few more rather flamboyant bits of historical plate armour:

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Wouldn't neccesarily call any of it feminine, but it shows the kind of thing that was done to make armour more showy and indivdualised. "Realistic" armour doesn't have to be boring.

(as an aside, note the glorious lack of stupid pauldrons...)

See I think that armour is unbearably ugly. Armour is very much a YMMV.

[SwordofMercy1]

Not that I'm interested in bows and stuff on my character, but I can see why people want it. I know I may be going to deep here, but the way we dress our characters is another why we develop their personality. I really dislike the fact that the game developers are willing to make masculine, neutral, and skimpy clothes, but they have a serious problem when it comes to making clothes that women would actually wear. It doesn't have to be over the top Princess Peach style, but some female warriors may actually like the enemy to know that its a girl that is kicking their butt... Without showing their boobs. Also, what's wrong with guys wearing 'flamboyant' clothing? If I was to make a male rogue, I would want him looking as fabulous as possibly; Getting all the ladies!

Also, the whole bows and frills thing may give us something to talk to with Vivienne with, since she is apparently a fashionista!

[PhroXenGold]

See I think that armour is unbearably ugly. Armour is very much a YMMV.

 

To be honest, although I posted those pics, I'm not that keen on those suits of armour, at least for my own characters. Personally, I much prefer simple unadorned, probably somewhat battleworn, gear preferably based on historical armour from a couple of centuries earlier than the elaborate late medieval/renaissance plate shown there. But I showed those images to demonstrate that armour can be flamboyant and individualistic while still being realistic and without compromising the underlying functionality, which they do very well.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Hell if i was in a battle to the death with hellspawn.. ill tell you this my 1st priority will not be "Dose my arse look big in this Leagion of the dead armor?"

Ive said before with armor it is practicality over aesthetics

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[PhroXenGold]

Hell if i was in a battle to the death with hellspawn.. ill tell you this my 1st priority will not be "Dose my arse look big in this Leagion of the dead armor?"

Ive said before with armor it is practicality over esthetics.

 

The point several of us have been making in this thread is that there's no reason what you can have both practical and aesthetically pleasing armour. Well, OK, I suppose it does depend on what your aesthetic tastes are, but as long as they're not along the lines of getting your breasts out at every opportunity, you can make armour that is completely practical while still allowing for a lot of decoration, colour and other concessions to appearance.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Oh i agree. i infact tend to do my own designs as well.

[phantomrachie]

The point several of us have been making in this thread is that there's no reason what you can have both practical and aesthetically pleasing armour. Well, OK, I suppose it does depend on what your aesthetic tastes are, but as long as they're not along the lines of getting your breasts out at every opportunity, you can make armour that is completely practical while still allowing for a lot of decoration, colour and other concessions to appearance.

 

Posting this here so I don't bring the Lady Inquisitor Thread more off topic

 

My issue is that I don't really understand what people mean when they say feminine armour  - apart from changed to better fit a different body type.

 

I ware women's jeans, not feminine jeans & my jeans are only for women because they have been cut to fit hips.

 

I've seen a variety of colours and designs of DA:I armour. I can use materials to make red armour for any Inquisitor or Companion I like. Would it being red make it more feminine?

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Thats kindof my point in ME1 the only thing that annoyed me was the sholder guards were different on women.

in DA O it was that some lighter armors were boob armor in that it fitted the breasts. 

BTW most women would have binded there breasts if wareing armor.

[Gothfather]

Its been my experience that you simply can't please all the people all the time.

 

 

I know more than a few women that loved the dalish armours of DA:O. Likewise I know others that saw them and said "Yep a teenage boy designed those." I know some women hate armour that makes them look mannish like Cassandra's armour and I know others that have taken the position of FINALLY female armour that makes sense.

 

I honestly think that bioware is damned if they do and damned if they dont.

 

That said it is my hope that every player can find armours that they like regardless of where they fall in the debate.

[thehomeworld]

The problem I see when you say make armor more feminine they go for less and show skin where males wouldn't their version of feminine and players can really be two things. I'm not terribly picky when it comes to armors I'd rather have my femhero protected then flashy wearing something say like Saskia wears in the Witcher 2 its pretty, its girly, it has some redeeming protective features but honestly if I had a choice between that and Fshep wearing her obviously male attuned hardsuit in Mass Effect 3 with the grenade add ons and extra ammo on the chest I'd pick Fsheps yes it looks manly, yes she can look like a football line backer when you give her large shoulder pads, but what it does is it protects her I preferred the black and red armors from ME1 they looked great on both sexes w/o being so obviously male like ME3 suffers from and from the looks I've seen in DAI I'm willing to wait until the game comes out and see if there aren't armors I love first since I'm more practical in my battle attire parameters I think I'll find something I do love the mage coat at least.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Posting this here so I don't bring the Lady Inquisitor Thread more off topic

 

My issue is that I don't really understand what people mean when they say feminine armour  - apart from changed to better fit a different body type.

 

I ware women's jeans, not feminine jeans & my jeans are only for women because they have been cut to fit hips.

 

I've seen a variety of colours and designs of DA:I armour. I can use materials to make red armour for any Inquisitor or Companion I like. Would it being red make it more feminine?

The OP lists some good examples. 

[9TailsFox]

The problem I see when you say make armor more feminine they go for less and show skin where males wouldn't their version of feminine and players can really be two things. I'm not terribly picky when it comes to armors I'd rather have my femhero protected then flashy wearing something say like Saskia wears in the Witcher 2 its pretty, its girly, it has some redeeming protective features but honestly if I had a choice between that and Fshep wearing her obviously male attuned hardsuit in Mass Effect 3 with the grenade add ons and extra ammo on the chest I'd pick Fsheps yes it looks manly, yes she can look like a football line backer when you give her large shoulder pads, but what it does is it protects her I preferred the black and red armors from ME1 they looked great on both sexes w/o being so obviously male like ME3 suffers from and from the looks I've seen in DAI I'm willing to wait until the game comes out and see if there aren't armors I love first since I'm more practical in my battle attire parameters I think I'll find something I do love the mage coat at least.

Saskia can walk naked and it would still make sense she even stronger naked, because WEARY BIG SPOILER FOR WITCHER 2

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This is how Saskia  looks beauty 

[phantomrachie]

The OP lists some good examples. 

 

In the OP it was basically a request for frilly lace & ribbon for armour and to have skirts. Why would ribbon by part of any armour if its not ceremonial?

 

I thought the whole point was for practical looking armour 

 

Kilts I'd like to see in game, but armoured skirts why? how are skirts more practical as part of a heavy armour set.

 

People who wore armour didn't adorn it will frills & ribbon, in combat, they made the embellishments part of the armour its self.

 

We can change the colour of the armour based on the materials we use to craft it, those embellishments are part of the design of the armour, as they should be.

[9TailsFox]

In the OP it was basically a request for frilly lace & ribbon for armour and to have skirts. Why would ribbon by part of any armour if its not ceremonial?

 

I thought the whole point was for practical looking armour 

 

Kilts I'd like to see in game, but armoured skirts why? how are skirts more practical as part of a heavy armour set.

 

People who wore armour didn't adorn it will frills & ribbon, in combat, they made the embellishments part of the armour its self.

 

We can change the colour of the armour based on the materials we use to craft it, those embellishments are part of the design of the armour, as they should be.

Some people don't care about practical, people like me want "cool" armour sometime even over the top.

 

Wolfs head as shoulder it add nothing to defence it's just look cool.

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[Hanako Ikezawa]

In the OP it was basically a request for frilly lace & ribbon for armour and to have skirts. Why would ribbon by part of any armour if its not ceremonial?

 

I thought the whole point was for practical looking armour 

 

Kilts I'd like to see in game, but armoured skirts why? how are skirts more practical as part of a heavy armour set.

 

People who wore armour didn't adorn it will frills & ribbon, in combat, they made the embellishments part of the armour its self.

 

We can change the colour of the armour based on the materials we use to craft it, those embellishments are part of the design of the armour, as they should be.

So I guess we are going to ignore all the real armors that had combat skirts? 

 

And people who wore armor were mostly men, not the even number that Da provides. Thus real world armor can't be used as an example for everything. 

 

As for changing the color, I hope they put in dyes. It would suck if in order to have the color you want you have to use shoddy materials that will ensure your death in higher level parts of the game. 

[Giant ambush beetle]

Having trouble finding a clear picture of it to judge, never saw the movie.

 

 


Also Cate Blanchett in armor in Robin Hood:
 

 

I love both armors, I think they're very feminine because this is a real women wearing them.

[llawsford]

Not the fan of Witcher games in particular (I love the books though) but this armor is one of the best I've ever seen lately.

 

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Still lacking some protection in chest area though, just like another one I'm fond of...

 

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[Who Knows]

I hate the boob windows. Seriously. Stop doing that, fantasy genre. Unless you want to give the men chest muscle windows in their armor.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I hate the boob windows. Seriously. Stop doing that, fantasy genre. Unless you want to give the men chest muscle windows in their armor.

Well, Dragon Age has an entire race of people whose male soldiers go into battle with bare chests. Does that count?