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[Kurt M.]

And definitely not the destroyer 'cause he can missile glitch

 

You're not gonna be the most popular kid in the class with such statements....just sayin'

 

Still better than Deerber though...

[Deerber]

Shadow Strike is a great power, and you want a melee mod on that. Most snipers are too heavy to really capitalize on bonus power, as well. Basically, there's so many other snipefiltrators, there's no reason to feel the need to do so here.

My reccomendation: Pistol with Melee Stunner and Power Magnifier. It wrecks. The only problem is cerberus, since the atlas is immune to shadow strike.

While I do agree with the "there's ton of other sniper infiltrators around" feeling, the problem with the Shadow is that a SS-centric build isn't nearly as efficient at killing than a sniper build. That's probably what the OP was hinting at... Maybe...

[JohnnyQPublic]

While I do agree with the "there's ton of other sniper infiltrators around" feeling, the problem with the Shadow is that a SS-centric build isn't nearly as efficient at killing than a sniper build. That's probably what the OP was hinting at... Maybe...

 

True.  At this point in this game's lifespan, I don't focus on efficiency so much anymore.  A shadow-strike-focused Shadow is a unique and thrilling stealth playstyle that you can't get with any other character, so I go with that.  It's the same reason I've forced myself to build a poison strike-focused Cabal, even though that is definitely not efficient.  

[Deerber]

True. At this point in this game's lifespan, I don't focus on efficiency so much anymore. A shadow-strike-focused Shadow is a unique and thrilling stealth playstyle that you can't get with any other character, so I go with that. It's the same reason I've forced myself to build a poison strike-focused Cabal, even though that is definitely not efficient.

PS can be made work very well. Although you gotta host I guess.

[Alfonsedode]

SS fest once in a while is fun, but comes boring fast imo. i havent found a gamplay where i mix it up a little bit yet.

[capn233]

Interesting topic.  Hard to say which one is the "worst" without defining what precisely that means.  All of them are pretty powerful, albeit in different ways.  Shadow is one that is probably less of a step up from the class standard (when they were released) since she isn't nearly as proficient with weapons as some of the other infiltrators, even if she is ok at melee.  Of course there is the ES build.

 

Demolisher's fortunes are related to the map you land on somewhat, although she does have a limited ability to regen grenades.  Hard to say she isn't powerful though when you have 10 Arc Grenades summoned at a whim.

 

Slayer is a good character.  Phase Disruptor is great.  It wouldn't be this character.

 

Destroyer is one of the best weapon handlers in the game.  Can't say he is the worst.

 

Paladin is pretty powerful.  If you are taking worst to mean lame then he might make a case with Snap Freeze, although he will be runner up.

 

Fury is also powerful.  Has one of the lamest powers in the game, and certainly the lamest biotic power.  Also can teleport, which is something else the game didn't need.

[lonerenforcer9]

While I do agree with the "there's ton of other sniper infiltrators around" feeling, the problem with the Shadow is that a SS-centric build isn't nearly as efficient at killing than a sniper build. That's probably what the OP was hinting at... Maybe...

Shadow strike will take down 2 phantoms/dragoons within 5-10 seconds though, if used in the right situations. A sniper build can generally only do that with headshots or offhost phantoms. Plus the Shadow has cqc advantage unless one is playing some scrubby kit with arc grenades or recon mines. Who uses those, honestly?

 

Not saying she will outdamage a sniper build, but against cerberus she'll make it a contest

[lonerenforcer9]

You're not gonna be the most popular kid in the class with such statements....just sayin'

Anyone who doesn't say the destroyer is the worst n7 character is a CONFIRMED missile glitcher and is now an enemy of the republic. Do what must be done, do not hesitate, show no mercy and throw them out the airlock.

[12323432543]

Demolisher. Too boring for me. 

[TheBunz]

While I do agree with the "there's ton of other sniper infiltrators around" feeling, the problem with the Shadow is that a SS-centric build isn't nearly as efficient at killing than a sniper build. That's probably what the OP was hinting at... Maybe...

Yeah pretty much. Shotty/snipes with tactical cloak is insane damage.

[Deerber]

Shadow strike will take down 2 phantoms/dragoons within 5-10 seconds though, if used in the right situations. A sniper build can generally only do that with headshots or offhost phantoms. Plus the Shadow has cqc advantage unless one is playing some scrubby kit with arc grenades or recon mines. Who uses those, honestly?

 

Not saying she will outdamage a sniper build, but against cerberus she'll make it a contest

 

Nope. Not even close to being a contest, at all. Especially against Cerberus.

 

You say it takes a SS centric build 5-10 secs to kill 2 phantoms or 2 goons? Well, it takes just a couple seconds with a BW, if your aim is true. If it's not... Then it's not a problem of the build, but the one who weilds it, you know? If one has a decent aim, the sniper build will outkill the SS one by miles and miles.

[rspanther]

Which ever one I happen to be playing at the time.

 

Or at least that's what it seems like at times.

[lonerenforcer9]

Nope. Not even close to being a contest, at all. Especially against Cerberus.

 

You say it takes a SS centric build 5-10 secs to kill 2 phantoms or 2 goons? Well, it takes just a couple seconds with a BW, if your aim is true. If it's not... Then it's not a problem of the build, but the one who weilds it, you know? If one has a decent aim, the sniper build will outkill the SS one by miles and miles.

 

On host black widow against phantoms, no. And if 3-4 dragoons get near the sniper build, he has a decent chance of getting whipped into submission. Shadows are awesome because (provided there are other players taking aggro) she can strike dragoons in these situations and they don't even go after her. There's something to be said about the skill of a player using a kit sure, but I've outscored plenty of BW and Javelin snipers who were great players and shots with my shadow. Granted it was on plat but yeah she is more of a support character for sure.

[Kurt M.]

Anyone who doesn't say the destroyer is the worst n7 character is a CONFIRMED missile glitcher and is now an enemy of the republic. Do what must be done, do not hesitate, show no mercy and throw them out the airlock.

 

Eh, I like the Destroyer. It's a good weapon class if you haven't the TGI. And it's Multi-Frag Grenade is always fun, especially in Grenade Defense matches*.

 

 

*PC only.

[FasterThanFTL]

On host black widow against phantoms, no. And if 3-4 dragoons get near the sniper build, he has a decent chance of getting whipped into submission. Shadows are awesome because (provided there are other players taking aggro) she can strike dragoons in these situations and they don't even go after her. There's something to be said about the skill of a player using a kit sure, but I've outscored plenty of BW and Javelin snipers who were great players and shots with my shadow. Granted it was on plat but yeah she is more of a support character for sure.

 

Never saw 4 Dragoons at the same time. Are you even playing the same game as the rest of us?

[lonerenforcer9]

Eh, I like the Destroyer. It's a good weapon class if you haven't the TGI. And it's Multi-Frag Grenade is always fun, especially in Grenade Defense matches*.

 

 

*PC only.

So what you're trying to say is...it's good with the adas anti-synthetic assault rifle?

 

Guards at the ready

[lonerenforcer9]

Never saw 4 Dragoons at the same time. Are you even playing the same game as the rest of us?

It's called platinum vs cerberus. Depending how the wave budget is allotted there can be quite a few active at once. See this in case you haven't already (it might be a little outdated, but should be mostly accurate, if not 100%).

[FasterThanFTL]

It's called platinum vs cerberus. Depending how the wave budget is allotted there can be quite a few active at once. See this in case you haven't already (it might be a little outdated, but should be mostly accurate, if not 100%).

 

Still never saw 4 Dragoons at the same time even on Platinum and I highly doubt anyone else has. And even if somehow 4 Dragoons do get spawned at the same time it is extremely rare to see 4 of them coming at you at once and cannot be used as good example for the point you were trying to make earlier.

[lonerenforcer9]

Still never saw 4 Dragoons at the same even on Platinum and I highly doubt anyone else has.

I'm certain I have - mostly on extraction. And it doesn't mean it can't happen.

 

Here you go

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

Still never saw 4 Dragoons at the same even on Platinum and I highly doubt anyone else has.

 

The way those bastards dance around makes three of them seem like two dozen.

[FasterThanFTL]

The way those bastards dance around makes three of them seem like two dozen.

 

The difference between 3 and 4 is actually very huge because if I have a Black Widow X and I see 3 Dragoons coming at me from a distance. I have a chance and most likely will kill them all before they can reach me to do any significant damage but if 4 of them are coming at me then I will have 1 dragoon left while I am reloading and that could cause me a little bit of trouble but thankfully I have never ever run into 4 dragoons while sniping or any other time for that matter.

[lonerenforcer9]

Still never saw 4 Dragoons at the same even on Platinum and I highly doubt anyone else has. And even if somehow 4 Dragoons do get spawned at the same time it is extremely rare and cannot be used as good example for the point you were trying to make earlier.

Edit:

 

Platinum cerberus extraction spawns 4 at the get go. I'm also fairly certain I've gone against 4 often enough in an earlier wave (maybe against a different faction) but for the life of me I can't recall. You think by now I'd have the composition of every wave memorized but all I have is 3 Primes wave 2 versus Geth and 1 Prime wave 7 versus Collectors. I hate primes 

 

Platinum has too much faction interbreeding going on

[Excella Gionne]

I need an N8 character. Odd numbers are bad luck.

[FasterThanFTL]

Platinum cerberus extraction spawns 4 at the get go. I'm also fairly certain I've gone against 4 often enough in one of the other waves but for the life of me I can't recall. I could be wrong there

 

That is just 1 wave in the entire game and you don't even need to kill anything to survive the 4 Dragoon army.

[lonerenforcer9]

That is just 1 wave in the entire game and you don't even need to kill anything to survive the 4 Dragoon army.

then my shadow is certainly going to outscore your sniper 'cause wave 11 is a feast full of delicious dragoons!