Depends on my Inquisitor but since I play mostly as just a mage more than likely I'll go for extra dialogue when it comes to magic knowledge and lore over everything else.
Inquisitor Perk Priority?
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EdwinLi
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#27
Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 03:51
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I think dialogue options > everything else, though I think I'll pick RP-specific options (e.g. no arcane/fade perk for non-mages).
This for me aswell. Anything that unlocks dialogue > Gameplay advantage.
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Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 03:53
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I don't know what I'm going to pick. Trying to stay away from a lot of info as it is.
Bottom line though is that I'm just going to roleplay my first character and pick what I think is consistent with him. I don't care to optimize too much the first playthrough.
#29
Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 04:52
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I'm loving the dialogue perks, but...
INVENTORY SPACE, MY OLD NEMESIS... WE MEET AGAIN
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#30
Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 04:56
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I'm loving the dialogue perks, but...
INVENTORY SPACE, MY OLD NEMESIS... WE MEET AGAIN
The spirit of the animal used to make that extended inventory bag laughs at you....
On that note: with the amount of perks the Inquisitor can have limited best to choose wisely what perks you really want for your Inquisitor or else you may end up with a Perk you don't want.
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#31
Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 04:57
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Dialogue and lore for me.My first Inquisitor will be a human mage and I plan on him being knowledgeable on the Chantry, magic, and history. So much in fact I want this to be people reaction when I tell them things........
#32
Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 05:02
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Dialogue options that match who I'm rping (brainy nerdy mage wants the brainy nerdy mage dialogue. More trickstery sly type would want the pockets)
History of the chantry wouldn't make sense for my non human characters so they shall bungle around with no in depth knowledge of the chant or human history.
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Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 05:05
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Dialogue options that match who I'm rping (brainy nerdy mage wants the brainy nerdy mage dialogue. More trickstery sly type would want the pockets)
History of the chantry wouldn't make sense for my non human characters so they shall bungle around with no in depth knowledge of the chant or human history.
Well the Perk is being used by a Human Inquisitor.
Perhaps the Inquisition Perk Unlocks is based on the Inquisitor's Race and Class so it may be different for the other Races.
Such as the Qunari Inquisitor will have a Perk to have knowledge of the Qun, Elven Inquisitor has a Perk relate to the Knowledge of the Dalish, and Dwarves have the Knowledge perk of Dwarven culture.
However, this is only a guess.
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#34
Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 05:07
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Well the Perk is being used by a Human Inquisitor.
Perhaps the Inquisition Perk Unlocks is based on the Inquisitor's Race and Class so it may be different for the other Races.
I really hope that a Dalish elf doesn't need an Inquisition perk to talk about their own culture...
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Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 05:09
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I really hope that a Dalish elf doesn't need an Inquisition perk to talk about their own culture...
Well Lore wise each Inquisitor starts out as a Trainee/Rookie so he or she isn't a fully trained person so they yet to complete their knowledge about certain things. The Perk is most likely the final training step to complete their knowledge so they can to use that knowledge and talent.
For example, the Dalish Inquisitor has yet to fully complete his or her knowledge of their culture so they can't fully explain their culture despite having knowledge of it. However, with the Perk they have compete their training to fully understand their culture so they can explain it to others.
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Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 05:11
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Well Lore wise each Inquisitor starts out as a Trainee/Rookie so he or she isn't a fully trained person so they yet to complete their knowledge about certain things. The Perk is most likely the final training step to complete their knowledge to use it.
A human not having a "detailed" history of the Chantry can be understood, even in a religious family like the Trevelyan. It's even easier to believe in the case of a former Circle Mage. However, the Dalish culture is ingrained into the members of the clan from an early age... there is no way that an adult Dalish elf would need an Inquisition perk to understand and discuss their own history.
I think it's better if the Inquisition perk remains Chantry-based for all races... any version of the PC can lack in-depth knowledge of the Chantry's history, but individual racial/cultural knowledge perks are hard to justify...
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Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 05:14
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A human not having a "detailed" history of the Chantry can be understood, even in a religious family like the Trevelyan. It's even easier to believe in the case of a former Circle Mage. However, the Dalish culture is ingrained into the members of the clan from an early age... there is no way that an adult Dalish elf would need an Inquisition perk to understand and discuss their own history.
Like I said they have a understand of their culture so most likely there will be a level of dialogues allowing them to understand and mention their culture. However, the Perk training will most likely allow them to go into a deeper discussion about their culture that usually would be limited to Keepers.
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Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 05:15
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If possible I would try and get perks that may make it easier to get enough power to get more perks in the future, so mostly dialogue and knowledge based perks. Invest in the obvious and reap the rewards
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#39
Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 05:16
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Like I said they have a understand of their culture so most likely there will be a level of dialogues allowing them to understand and mention their culture. However, the Perk training will most likely allow them to go into a deeper discussion about their culture that usually would be limited to Keepers.
How would the Inquisition teach them this? Doesn't it make more sense that the Inquisition, a Chantry-based organization, would be able to teach Chantry-related knowledge?
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Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 05:22
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How would the Inquisition teach them this? Doesn't it make more sense that the Inquisition, a Chantry-based organization, would be able to teach Chantry-related knowledge?
Perks are not about teaching others but about building the Inquisitor's personality and background.
The Inquisition the player controls is also affected by their Race and actions as well since the Inquisition in DAI is a Neutral based Organization when starting out compared to the last Inquisition in DA Lore which was a Chantry based organization.
For example, a Elven Inquisitor can build his Inquisition base to be Dalish culture looking while a Qunari Inquisitor can build their Inquisition base to be Quari culture looking. These Race themed architect is race locked concept unique to the Inquisitor's Race similar to other things that will be unique to their Race in DAI.
What "Type" based Organization the Inquisition is in DAI will be based on players choices so if you want a Chantry Based Inquisition make choices supporting the Chantry.
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Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 05:46
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Well the Perk is being used by a Human Inquisitor.
Perhaps the Inquisition Perk Unlocks is based on the Inquisitor's Race and Class so it may be different for the other Races.
Such as the Qunari Inquisitor will have a Perk to have knowledge of the Qun, Elven Inquisitor has a Perk relate to the Knowledge of the Dalish, and Dwarves have the Knowledge perk of Dwarven culture.
However, this is only a guess.
That would make the choice much harder. Be next to impossible to resist having my dwarf spout all the dwarven knowledge at those damn tall-ees.
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Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 06:15
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Lore sounds cool for either human mage or warrior/rogue. They both come from educated, chantry based backgrounds.
#43
Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 06:56
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wait will certain classes have certain Perks already like for a mage shouldn't he already have Arcane knowledge he should know about magic and demons he a circle mage so he would know them things like a warrior should have exclusive training perk already unlocked like a human warrior would have been trained since birth to be a skilled Warrior so do anyone know if certain perks already be available
#44
Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 07:06
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My human mage will take all the knowledge perks that come her way. If anything else gives additional dialogue options, I may go for that if something that stands out as fitting her as a character does not present itself.
Where not prioritized by characterization, lore-related perks come first, perks related to strategy second, then non-situationally useful ones like inventory improvements and those which are useful in actual combat last.
I suspect, though, that perks may not be restricted to one of these categories. If you get a crafting perk, for instance, that may mean you get additional dialogue options related to crafting. In that case, the decision will be more difficult.
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Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 07:11
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wait will certain classes have certain Perks already like for a mage shouldn't he already have Arcane knowledge he should know about magic and demons he a circle mage so he would know them things like a warrior should have exclusive training perk already unlocked like a human warrior would have been trained since birth to be a skilled Warrior so do anyone know if certain perks already be available
I'm reasonably sure they won't make a mage ask about things they should know just because you didn't choose "Arcane Knowledge". There will be class-specific dialogue too I suspect.
I recall that in DA2, you could ask about phylacteries as a mage. I used that option once and I have a vague memory of everyone being surprised that I asked about what I should know. I guess the option was there for the benefit of players who didn't know, and we may see such things return. Very awkward but it's optional, so it's ok.
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Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 07:25
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Well and some just don't study all of the things that they really should know. So these perks may only include advanced knowledge that not everybody has bothered to learn or something.
#47
Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 08:27
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Trevelyan who opted to go for the extra inventory space and crafting instead of Chantry history: "Andraste who?"
Everyone else in the room: *shocked gasp*
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#48
Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 09:53
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definetly the ones that add more dialouge,or extra EXP are the best
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Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 01:55
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Where I really see RP fum is "mismatched" dialogue perks. A mage who doesn't take the arcane knowledge perk because all they care about is the magic doing what they want. Or a Dalish hunter with a passion for the arcane. And so on.
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Posté 12 octobre 2014 - 02:53
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Where I really see RP fum is "mismatched" dialogue perks. A mage who doesn't take the arcane knowledge perk because all they care about is the magic doing what they want. Or a Dalish hunter with a passion for the arcane. And so on.
well RP wise not all mages take their studies seriously after all so there will be Mages that don't have a proper understand of Magics and Demons due to lack of studying.
Same for Dalish being most Magic Knowledge and deeper understanding of Dalish culture is usually kept to the Keeper while the other members of the Dalish only have a standard level of understanding they learn from the keeper or story tellers. A Dalish Mage, which a Elven Inquisitor Mage will be, is still a apprentice to the Keeper so he or she will not have full understanding of Magic and Demons yet due to not completing his or her training but will have a certain level of understanding due to her training.
However, anyone can learn about Magic and Demons due to the vast amount of books and different sources of knowledge in the world so the option to learn Arcane Knowledge has always been open to anyone if they put effort into it.
