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[Itkovian]

Anyone reading any game forums, particularly for AAA games, would come away thinking the game sucked/is going to suck. It's the nature of people with something to complain about to be more vocal than those who are content with what they're getting.

 

In short, there's an inherent negative bias in any game forum, it's human nature.

 

Of course, gaming forums also tend to attract trolls of all kinds (including concern trolls...), so things get even worse.

 

Point is, the tone in any forum is highly misleading, and never representative of the consumer base at large.

[Gtdef]

With dlc items and the most optimized characters, even Nightmare DA2 is just a target next and autoattack. Still it's way more difficult than DAO. At least in DA2 you need to setup good tactics. In DAO you just nuke the **** out of everything and call it a day. It's broken.

[CrazyMooNew]

I...haven't seen very much negativity toward this game...especially not from the people who have played it. Just about everything we've heard has been positive.

 

You just have to know that there are people out there who love to hate...they will rip on DA3 for being a EA game...a RPG...a Bioware game and the sequel to Dragon Age 2 (which didn't deserve most of the hate it got). People love to ruffle feathers and they will talk crap about stuff they don't know anything about...now that isn't to say that DA3 wont have legitimate problems (because all games do), but being able to separate trolling and actual complaints is important.

 

 

[xkg]

As far as I know, you don't zoom out in DAI. Everytime you activate the 'tactical camera' it instantly switch to overhead mode, and then you have to adjust the camera and Possibly zoom in/out.
Also, what do you mean with detaching from The PC?

 

No I didnt said PC. What I said was :

Can you detach it from the controled character 

 

What I mean is - can you move the cam freely (in DA2) , or is it following your controled character ?

Of course that was rhetorical question.

[Lux]

Taking into account what was made public so far, I think this game will be great and will do well.

 

I really disliked DA2's hyper-minimalistic approach and didn't get ME3 due to its flimsy ending. I thought BW was going downhill with unsavory constraints in time and budget. But this new game seems to be a solid turn for the better. 

 

Some key points are already present and accounted for: immersive and expansive environment, greater companion and PC customization, less restrictive weapon usage, crafting, exploring, mounts, epic backdrop, solid sound effects, music and voice acting. HOPEFULLY this will all be enhanced with a great story that will have plenty of player choice all the way to the end. 

 

I also like the fact that future DLCs for the PC version are finally free from a very restrictive payment method, that the online Keep provides for a really smart prologue, and that the game has been delayed several times in order to make it better - which is rare in the game industry. There's a palpable effort for this game to be the best as it can possibly be and devs have been very open to communication and feedback throughout its production. 

 

That is why I think there's a high probability that DA:I will not disappoint, notwithstanding a likely amount of bugs on release. 

 

The removal of magic healing, only 8 skill slots, and no direct control of attributes will be irrelevant as long as the novel gameplay makes for a satisfying experience. What I really don't like is the lack of modding tools. It's a real shame that EA doesn't want this in the frostbite engine. This is a let down to those, like me, who were pampered by Skyrim. Maybe multiplayer will offset this for a while, but never on the long term.

 

Anyway, despite my reluctance and skepticism I've concluded that it was worth to pre-order this game. I went so far as to use Origin to purchase the DDE.

[devSin]

I haven't seen a tremendous amount of enthusiasm for the game in other circles, but I honestly haven't been looking for it either.

I share the concerns that this game won't significantly expand the market (compared to DA2). I'm not sure if EA expects it to, but they seem to be targeting broader appeal, and I'm not seeing much indication that anybody outside the existing customer base even cares about the game.

I certainly don't think the game will perform poorly, however.

[bEVEsthda]

It's many months now since I last tried to test the waters, in my own ways, own places and own indicators. But at that time I noted a dramatic change in attitude of people, since the days of that DA2 dlc, and the announcement of DA:I. It was much more positive. An overwhelming majority interested in and positive to DA:I, while the same situation previously was very hostile and negative.

 

As I said, I haven't looked into it lately, but I hope it haven't gotten more negative again. One problem I could worry about is that the released preview videos don't really show off what I think people want to see. There's a reason for that, of course, avoiding spoilers, but it doesn't change the fact. (they kinda look too much like DA:2 )

 

Also, some players are in a bit of panic about the no health regen and only 8 abilities. They shouldn't be, but that's a tough message to get through before they've played the game. People only understand what they've already experienced.

[SofaJockey]

It's many months now since I last tried to test the waters, in my own ways, own places and own indicators. But at that time I noted a dramatic change in attitude of people, since the days of that DA2 dlc, and the announcement of DA:I. It was much more positive. An overwhelming majority interested in and positive to DA:I, while the same situation previously was very hostile and negative.

 

As I said, I haven't looked into it lately, but I hope it haven't gotten more negative again. One problem I could worry about is that the released preview videos don't really show off what I think people want to see. ...

 

Just pre-launch jitters. BSN is a place to come while waiting. There have been some significant changes and until you try it out for real, a little anxiety can creep in.

[N7 Spectre525]

Well, you're wrong. On nightmare, it's far more demanding. DA:O is a joke on nightmare, on less than that it's just a race to see who can rolfstomp the mooks the fastest. 

How am I wrong? I was responding to a poster that proclaimed that Dragon age 2 was tactical...but they play on nightmare.

Anything under nightmare require no tactics at all at least in my experience...and most players dont subject themselves to the hardest setting of the game. I mean really, half of my battles in DA2 are over so fast its mind numbing.

[Elhanan]

How am I wrong? I was responding to a poster that proclaimed that Dragon age 2 was tactical...but they play on nightmare.
Anything under nightmare require no tactics at all at least in my experience...and most players dont subject themselves to the hardest setting of the game. I mean really, half of my battles in DA2 are over so fast its mind numbing.

Not my experience, as least not in the final couple of Acts and DLC. But then, I seek out intel and use tactics if possible; avoid using Juggernaut approach as a rule. And I played DA2 on Hard; did not like Immunities on creatures, as they made little sense (eg; all Mabari Immune to Fire). And Nightmare also adds Friendly Fire; while something I like, it was not worth the restrictions seen with Immunities.

[sabere]

I'm not worried at all.  I don't worry about what appeals to others as long as I like something.

 

I'm in the minority, in that I liked both DAO and DA2.  Obviously like everyone else, I enjoyed DAO better, (except I liked the DA2 battle graphics and controls more than DAO) but all games change from one generation or release to the next.  Good game makers take feedback into consideration and try to meet the desires of their customers.  Although the ME3 ending was a bit of a disappointment, I doubt BioWare makes the same mistake twice after that.

 

I pre-ordered long ago and am eagerly waiting to start exploring the vast new landscape and content..  

[Grieving Natashina]

Not my experience, as least not in the final couple of Acts and DLC. But then, I seek out intel and use tactics if possible; avoid using Juggernaut approach as a rule. And I played DA2 on Hard; did not like Immunities on creatures, as they made little sense (eg; all Mabari Immune to Fire). And Nightmare also adds Friendly Fire; while something I like, it was not worth the restrictions seen with Immunities.

If you play on PC, there is a nice mod for DA2 that still keeps the high resistances on Nightmare, but removes friendly fire.  I didn't mind the resistances, after playing a crapton of Diablo games over the years.  You just gotta get creative.  

 

Friendly fire, while it does give a challenge, I just find annoying.  To each their own though; I can appreciate why some players like that challenge.

[In Exile]

It's many months now since I last tried to test the waters, in my own ways, own places and own indicators. But at that time I noted a dramatic change in attitude of people, since the days of that DA2 dlc, and the announcement of DA:I. It was much more positive. An overwhelming majority interested in and positive to DA:I, while the same situation previously was very hostile and negative.

 

As I said, I haven't looked into it lately, but I hope it haven't gotten more negative again. One problem I could worry about is that the released preview videos don't really show off what I think people want to see. There's a reason for that, of course, avoiding spoilers, but it doesn't change the fact. (they kinda look too much like DA:2 )

 

Also, some players are in a bit of panic about the no health regen and only 8 abilities. They shouldn't be, but that's a tough message to get through before they've played the game. People only understand what they've already experienced.

 

The newest twitch stream has some PC gameplay. 

[In Exile]

How am I wrong? I was responding to a poster that proclaimed that Dragon age 2 was tactical...but they play on nightmare.

Anything under nightmare require no tactics at all at least in my experience...and most players dont subject themselves to the hardest setting of the game. I mean really, half of my battles in DA2 are over so fast its mind numbing.

You're wrong because DA:O was a joke on anything less than nightmare. It's not that DA2 was tactical on less than nightmare, it's that DA:O at anything less than nightmare was just as easy, if not even easier because of the better encounter design. Difficulty in DA2 was all different degrees of stacking the deck against the player. DA:O didn't do that as much, so when the rules start favouring the player (on normal or easy), then you're just rolfstomping through the game. 

[Elhanan]

You're wrong because DA:O was a joke on anything less than nightmare. It's not that DA2 was tactical on less than nightmare, it's that DA:O at anything less than nightmare was just as easy, if not even easier because of the better encounter design. Difficulty in DA2 was all different degrees of stacking the deck against the player. DA:O didn't do that as much, so when the rules start favouring the player (on normal or easy), then you're just rolfstomping through the game.

Perhaps for an experienced Player. But for one new to the mechanics of Spells, Tactics, etc, Normal is still my recommended selection for those first starting the game.

[Ausstig]

I am not worried.

 

Dragon Age is a well known IP. Even if the new game sucks and doesn't make money (not saying it will) they will make a new one, maybe a reboot or remake, in a few years. So relax.

 

I think the game is going to let people down though, not as bad as DA2, but I see the "NO HEALING SPELLS" being a big thing post lunch. 

[Hellosanta]

How am I wrong? I was responding to a poster that proclaimed that Dragon age 2 was tactical...but they play on nightmare.

Anything under nightmare require no tactics at all at least in my experience...and most players dont subject themselves to the hardest setting of the game. I mean really, half of my battles in DA2 are over so fast its mind numbing.

 

Why not change the difficulty to harder setting if you feel the combat is too easy, too fast and boring? I intentionally play games in hard difficulty or higher because the combat feels too easy. I just don't understand how it is justified to say that the combat is too fast and easy and does not require tactical approach when you are playing in the difficulty that is basically designed for more action-oriented approach than tactical one. Even though you have option to play in tactical approach if you wish, you just choose not to do it, then you complain that the combat in the game is dumbed down. It doesn't sound right.

 

In any rate, dev has said DAI's difficulty is much harder than previous games, so I guess you will have the game that requires micro-managing even in normal/hard difficulties this time. 

[Paridave]

Casey Hudson is with the Mass Effect IP and I doubt Mass Effect is in a completed state. ;p

From what I've gleaned there's been a playable (from beginning to end) version of the next ME since July, and never, ever underestimate the width and  breadth of Hudson's grasp, his 16 years with Bioware gave him unbelievable clout.  He was a founding father, and if he wanted to put his fingers in the DAI pie you can bet they were there.

[naughty99]

How am I wrong? I was responding to a poster that proclaimed that Dragon age 2 was tactical...but they play on nightmare.

Anything under nightmare require no tactics at all at least in my experience...and most players dont subject themselves to the hardest setting of the game. I mean really, half of my battles in DA2 are over so fast its mind numbing.

 

They are still tweaking the balance for harder settings, and they might even adjust after launch if people complain that it's too easy.

 

However, I found DA2 to be much more challenging on Nightmare than DA:O, mainly because in DA:O you could spam cheap healing potions to get through any battle. I found DA2 to be tactical as well, as I played both games in the micromanaging style with constant pause, no AI tactics and controlling every action by each character.

 

Hopefully Inquisition will be brutal on Nightmare.

[dantares83]

You're wrong because DA:O was a joke on anything less than nightmare. It's not that DA2 was tactical on less than nightmare, it's that DA:O at anything less than nightmare was just as easy, if not even easier because of the better encounter design. Difficulty in DA2 was all different degrees of stacking the deck against the player. DA:O didn't do that as much, so when the rules start favouring the player (on normal or easy), then you're just rolfstomping through the game. 

i dont agree with this. DA2 is just way easier compared to DAO. In DA2, all i need to do is use 3 mages and cast AoE after AoE and the infinite spawns die in droves. some of the battles ended before it started. it was so boring that i wish they just cancel all that and make it a point and click game like those by Telltales. I continue playing DA2 because of the story. 

 

DAO battles while not exactly difficult compared to some other games but still mroe challenging than DA2. 

[Ceoldoren]

I could care less what other people think of the game. If they don't like it good on them. I personally will be enjoying the hell out of it.

[The Loyal Nub]

I am not worried.

 

Dragon Age is a well known IP. Even if the new game sucks and doesn't make money (not saying it will) they will make a new one, maybe a reboot or remake, in a few years. So relax.

 

I think the game is going to let people down though, not as bad as DA2, but I see the "NO HEALING SPELLS" being a big thing post lunch. 

 

I am not so sure about that last part. In the stream yesterday I thought "barrier" might play some part in mitigating damage and there was another spell it seemed his mage possessed called "regeneration" that seemed to be "healing" just not in name. I could be wrong of course but it seems there may be work-arounds to not having a specific healing spell?

[dantares83]

I am not worried.

 

Dragon Age is a well known IP. Even if the new game sucks and doesn't make money (not saying it will) they will make a new one, maybe a reboot or remake, in a few years. So relax.

 

I think the game is going to let people down though, not as bad as DA2, but I see the "NO HEALING SPELLS" being a big thing post lunch. 

less negativity will do everyone good!

[chance52]

That's pretty much what I see as well.

 

Maybe add point 5) This is only a hack n' slash game, not a REAL RPG anymore! Like the ones I played when I was younger and dinosaurs ruled the earth!

 

And can't wait 'til Witcher 3 is released and wherever you go (forums, youtube, gamesite-commentaries) people will compare the games and bash Bioware no matter what...as if those two games were anywhere near alike, or you were allowed to enjoy only one. I want 'em BOTH!

 

Probably my favorite RPGs from the past few years are Witcher 2 and Dragon Age: Origins. It is, in fact, possible to like two different companies games at the same time 

 

Also on my list of recent favorites are Starcraft 2, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, Dishonored and I even like every Call of Duty game I ever played (though I haven't played them all) These people out there that don't get you can buy more than one game a year and that you are allowed to pick from whatever company you want! haha

 

Back on point though I'm glad DA2 got as much hate as it did for cutting so many corners.  BioWare copy and pasted their way through that entire title (not just dungeons but most of the enemies were Origins models) and when you halfass your work people should call you out for it.  If DA2 didn't get all that hate and backlash EA would likely have ratcheted up the production time and tried to make DA like Madden where every year you get a "new" game that is exactly like the one before it just with an updated roster.

 

To everyone that discounts sites like metacritic or nonprofessional reviews because of 'trolls'; If you honestly can't tell the difference between a well thought out, articulate and insightful review from a troll review like "BIOWARE SUXXXXX!!!!! DO NOT BUY THIS TRASH GAME!!!!!!1111!!!" then I'm not sure what to tell you. Also when you see a IGN 'journalist' that sounds like she is reading her script in the last mass effect game over the 2 characters that were already established reporters (and had good voice acting) in the ME franchise I'm not sure what more proof you need to tell you companies and the 'journalists' reporting on them have far too close a relationship.

[Kohaku]

It can't just be me, can it? Literally everywhere I look outside of here, I see mostly negativity floating around this game. It seems like DA2 and ME3 have alienated so many people, that I'm starting to think the first-day numbers for release are going to be...less than substantial. Which would be bad for people like me who actually still enjoyed the past games and will in all likelihood enjoy this one. 

 

Am I the only one slightly worried? 

 

Don't be. Even if it's an absolute tragic mess people are going to buy it because it's a Bioware game. If nothing else I know EA isn't going to abandon the IP even if it doesn't do well. 

 

It also depends on where you go. The couple times I come here everyone has nothing but great things to say about the game as a whole. It could be just the threads I look at but everyone seems mostly positive.  If you go to message boards that are gaming focused or more specialized people are harder on it. All I can say is see what goes down in November. I hope I'm wrong but reviews will be my friend this time.