scrap ending planned from the begining of the 1st game just cause the script leaked (unlke BioWare with ME3)
Not to derail this thread, but I see this come up a lot and it just isn't true.
If you go and actually read the .tlk script files that were leaked, it's word for word exactly what was in the final game. The Catalyst's dialogue is all there and so are the three ending choices.
The werewolf threat didn't start right after Ostagar. It had been going on for quite awhile.
Connor would still have gotten possessed regardless of Ostagar, I think. And without the Warden, Redcliffe would have been destroyed utterly.
I'm not trying to say that the Warden didn't do amazing things, or that those conflicts weren't worth resolving. I just was very frustrated how DA:O didn't involve actually doing anything about the supposed main threat of the game, which was just a background thing until you shoved a 2H greatsword down the archdemon's throat.
In this regard, I actually liked DA:A a lot more.
I wouldn't really say I'm hyped. I'm anxious. I want this game to be good. I want to know that I don't need to worry about another BioWare game being a bust. But I'm not convinced.
And while I don't wanna start another ME3 discussion I'll just say that endings were just 1 thing. The final mission gameplay (compared to ME2), less control in dialogue, MP affecting Single Player game's plot and no realy story driven action/consequence narrative. Only grinding points. But I suppose that separate MP in DA Inquisition is a sign that they're learning. We'll see.
As for Witcher 3 - I have less worries. They didn't blow any of their games so far (unlike BioWare) and they didn't scrap ending planned from the begining of the 1st game just cause the script leaked (unlke BioWare with ME3) plus they gave themselves time to finish the game. 1 year delay was a really good decision. I'm not a Witcher Fanboy but CD Projekt (while much younger company) does have better reliability than EA and BioWare have now in my eyes.
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Withcer 2 gameplay was subpar, combat was broken and the skill tree were probably added without thinking what kind of game they were making.
They recived the mirrored treatment DA2 recived, the former mass positive hysteria the latter mass negative hysteria.
Not to derail this thread, but I see this come up a lot and it just isn't true.
If you go and actually read the .tlk script files that were leaked, it's word for word exactly what was in the final game. The Catalyst's dialogue is all there and so are the three ending choices.
Indeed, the script is pretty much what we got (which I quite enjoyed). I think people get confused because of the whole Dark Energy plotline or whatever it was. I know it wasn't fully developed but I didn't really like the sound of it.
Well the script version's exposition of the three choices made more sense, but yeah, same ending.Not to derail this thread, but I see this come up a lot and it just isn't true.
If you go and actually read the .tlk script files that were leaked, it's word for word exactly what was in the final game. The Catalyst's dialogue is all there and so are the three ending choices.
No, they've never said that DLC sales were the reason for Exalted March's cancellation.
When David Gaider talked about it, he said they decided to focus all their energies on Inquisition to make it a huge game, since preproduction and prototyping for that project was happening around the same time as development of the expansion.
Hang on a minute, so if the DA2 3rd DLC and what would have been an expansion to DA2 like Awakening were shifted to DAI...
That rather explains the presence of Hawke in DAI as those plot lines were written for Hawke but will now be viewed through the eyes of the Inquisitor.
Hang on a minute, so if the DA2 3rd DLC and what would have been an expansion to DA2 like Awakening were shifted to DAI...
That rather explains the presence of Hawke in DAI as those plot lines were written for Hawke but will now be viewed through the eyes of the Inquisitor.
Pretty much. No point wasting good material.
Hang on a minute, so if the DA2 3rd DLC and what would have been an expansion to DA2 like Awakening were shifted to DAI...
That rather explains the presence of Hawke in DAI as those plot lines were written for Hawke but will now be viewed through the eyes of the Inquisitor.
David says in that blog post that Inquisition contains some of the plot points of the expansion, but none of the bits that dealt with DA2 followers or Hawke.
"The only parts of [the third DLC/Exalted March] which are gone forever are the parts that dealt directly with the DA2 followers or with Hawke’s personal arc."
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Withcer 2 gameplay was subpar, combat was broken and the skill tree were probably added without thinking what kind of game they were making.
They recived the mirrored treatment DA2 recived, the former mass positive hysteria the latter mass negative hysteria.
And despite, in your view (I don't agree), a broken game, Witcher 2 gave me loads more fun than either DA2 or ME3. DAO and ME1 on the other hand, they are among the best games I ever played and only reason I'm still even here, reading about what happens to Bioware. ME2 was great in some ways, but worse in others and beacuse of it, ME1 is superior in my opinion. ME3 failed in many more ways than the end imho, unfortunately. DA2 was better than I thought it would me and I liked the first half, then the rushed development really took hold. Still not avery good game overall, but not as bad as depicted by some.
I would call some of the above about stats and gear legit complaints.
Luckily, I don't care about them myself. At the end of the day, I just care about storytelling, and as long as the dialogue system remains complex enough, I'm happy. I was never much of a spreadsheeter. Or at least, my enjoyment didn't hinge on it. Not in Bioware, not in any RPG. It sucks if that's your threshold point.
And despite, in your view (I don't agree), a broken game, Witcher 2 gave me loads more fun than either DA2 or ME3. DAO and ME1 on the other hand, they are among the best games I ever played and only reason I'm still even here, reading about what happens to Bioware. ME2 was great in some ways, but worse in others and beacuse of it, ME1 is superior in my opinion. ME3 failed in many more ways than the end imho, unfortunately. DA2 was better than I thought it would me and I liked the first half, then the rushed development really took hold. Still not avery good game overall, but not as bad as depicted by some.
I was too harsh.
Witcher 2 it's not a broken or a bad game for me (overall is a good game) but parts of that game deserved critics just as DA2 recived.
Well I certainly won't be buying it on day 1. It's uncertain if I will buy it new at all.
I did that with DA2 and Bioware interpreted that as if I loved DA2 rather than DA:O and nothing was wrong with DA2, which I hated, so clearly it's not in my best interest to buy their games too soon.
I was too harsh.
Witcher 2 it's not a broken or a bad game for me (overall is a good game) but parts of that game deserved critics just as DA2 recived.
I agree. The Witcher 2 had its flaws too. Maybe less noticable ones, though, than the ones in DA2.
Well I certainly won't be buying it on day 1. It's uncertain if I will buy it new at all.
I did that with DA2 and Bioware interpreted that as if I loved DA2 rather than DA:O and nothing was wrong with DA2, which I hated, so clearly it's not in my best interest to buy their games too soon.
Considering what was shown of Inquisition i fail to see what is the connection between the two game
I'm not sure what I should think of the general mood towards DAI. The game is huge, looks fantastic and has a number of things I've wanted to see (or to see return) for quite some time, all in all the pre-release impression is very good. I find it hard to believe that DAI could sell badly if the marketing people do their job. The response here is somewhat mixed, but that's how it always goes, isn't it? I've almost never seen this place explode with positive hype. Having said that, I see a lot of appreciative posts.
Personally, I'm not worried about anything but the story. That is a great unknown and as always, it's possible that I won't like it.
As for overall success, as I said, I have no way to judge the mood. It appears better to me than usual, but "the usual" had DA2 and ME3 in it for so long that I don't know how much that counts. Based on current information, I would want to see DAI succeed because I like the world and want to see more of it. Also, I've seen quite a few previews and they're mostly good.
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As for TW2, I abandoned it at the Kayran fight. I like the world and played the first game and loved it, but I can't see how the insane hype over these games is justified. If DAI has that kind of boss fight, it's quite possible I'll never finish it. Corypheus in DA2 was bad enough.
I must be going to different places because I've seen more positive than negative. Even those youtube videos (last I checked) had more thumbs up than thumbs down. Even better a number of people commenting on the vid said things like "Never played a DA game before can I start with this one?" So that's potential new blood into the fandom. Some people are skeptical and cautious but if the game is any good and word of mouth get's out, I'm fairly sure it will end up being successful even if doesn't rake in the cash on the first day.
I am pretty optimistic about the game overall. The game seems to be very large and open as opposed to DA2 which was somewhat confined though I still liked the game despite the ending which seemed sort of abrupt though I didn't have anywhere near the nerdrage over that game as opposed to the ending of ME3 though I did think very highly about other parts of the game which mostly revolved around Sur'Kesh and Tuchanka. Yeah, I've logged my issues with my favorite class, the mage, in regards to the changes with healing abilities but I'm still pretty eager for the game.
Just so long as they don't introduce some character in the last 5 minutes which throws your reason for doing what you did in the game out the window over dubious logic at best then I think the game will be just fine.
If you haven't noticed, the video gaming community on the internet is toxic and awful. People thought it was so cute to cultivate an internet following around hating things and being the person who hated things in the funniest way, and it's led to a worthless community full of nothing but just utter garbage.
hmmm. I am mostly concerned about myself (how selfish of me). How other people enjoy this is up to them, it's not my job to convince people to like something much less worry about it (it's not in my control). If I do not like it, then perhaps I won't replay it and find a different game to play.
The gaming community can have some very vocal negative groups (albeit minority).
Pretty much only seen this on the hub of civility and progressiveness that is 4Chan
If you haven't noticed, the video gaming community on the internet is toxic and awful. People thought it was so cute to cultivate an internet following around hating things and being the person who hated things in the funniest way, and it's led to a worthless community full of nothing but just utter garbage.
Bhahaha. I just love statements like this.
Aren't you part of this video gaming community ?
And speaking about the utter garbage, your post is soooo on topic, added much to the discussion. Gratz.
Well to be fair the ending of TW 2 was horrible short, just like DA 2. Other things were broken when the game come out, like they lack some resolution for PC, the combat was not that responsive unless you used the a console controller and so on. They also had the worst inventory ever, the game suffer a lot for trying to be on consoles.
Despite everything the main story was a lot better than DA 2 but it still had some major problem, like Ves vanishing, Triss only has a present on the first act, some major shittyness when it comes to female character design and so on but I did like the game a lot.
My main problem with The Witcher in that the universe in the books treats female character a lot better but somehow in the games it is shitty. Of course DA:I is gonna to have some problems like that too but not at their scale. In the end I still think DA 2 was worse but I am highly critical of both sides, so....
The negativity is warranted. Bioware have dropped the ball pretty frequently lately.
It's like everyone forgot about DA2 and the ME3 ending. Skepticism is warranted.
If you haven't noticed, the video gaming community on the internet is toxic and awful. People thought it was so cute to cultivate an internet following around hating things and being the person who hated things in the funniest way, and it's led to a worthless community full of nothing but just utter garbage.
I'm beginning to think this way too. More and more as time goes on.
The good thing though is that there are plenty of people who enjoy gaming that aren't toxic asshats, and I try to only engage with them.
If I were to say that I am worried, it's really just a tiny bit. Unfortunately, the negativity will always be there, you just have to choose to ignore it and support the developers you like. Bioware wanted to use some aspects of Skyrim because it was a hugely successful game and I think they will attract a population of Skyrim players. So while Bioware may have lost some fans, they will gain new ones.
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